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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2008, 04:53:56 AM »
I believe I know why it is not working for me, I have like 1lb of silica gel lying around in a desk, enough to dry the air in all my appartment, so all my paper are 100% dry, no humididy at all, its maybe why it is not working.

I have tried to wet the toilet paper and now I am getting a very low voltage around 2 mv with my sphere magnet, so I believe they are no usefull use of this "technologie" at least in my appartment lol.

I am very disapointed at your pathetic attempt at recreating a Magnet Battery. Almost believe you didn't even try. Well, guess you have no reason to post here anymore then.. see ya.

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2008, 04:57:16 AM »
I try and it not worked, stop attacking peoples trying to experiment your thing.

IT IS NOT WORKING FOR ME, its not my multimeter, its not my metal piece, its not my magnet.

You are pathetic by attacking me and I believe everyone from this forum will see that you are pathetic not me.

resonanceman

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2008, 05:29:30 AM »
CHILDREN

Can we stop the name  calling ?

There  will  be no  progress made  in this  thread if it degrades into petty bickering .


@The One .......... are  you really using a sphere  magnet?
I thought  it was clear  from the start  that  to get  the best affect  a U shaped magnet  is best  .
I would   think that   of  all the possible  shapes a sphere magnet  is probably   one of the worst for this particular application  .

@ One   
You have  said   that  you think   this  can  be taken  further ...... can  you   explain more about  your  ideas on  how it can  be  imporived?   Or  how to take the next step ?


So  far I  havn't  got  any real power ........and  only  about  .023 V 
I have been  playing  with  a  old  18 V  battery for my drill.   I found out  last week that it  no longer holds  a charge .
After  sitting a month or so it  was down to 2.4 V     I had hoped that  this little  battery  would be enough to keep the charge up  and  maybe  have a little reconditioning  effect ......... it is not  quite that   strong ......but it  does keep the  charge  from falling as fast . 
One thing that I noticed  is that once  it sits for a while  the  magnets do seem to charge  in some way .
When I dissconnect  the  18 V  battery the  magnets  quickly  drop to  about  .5 V  then  the drop seems to slow way  down ......  by the time it   reaches .2 volts  it is  dropping   pretty  slow .
Just  tapping  the  battery contacts  the  magnet  voltage seems to  jump  up fast  and  drop  quite a bit slower than it rises .

Maybe  this effect  can be useful

Oh .............the set up  I am using is  a set of   disk  drive magnets  on a each side of  a spare  coil of  soft  iron wire .  .....using   canvas as dielectric.




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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2008, 06:31:44 AM »
@ One   
You have  said   that  you think   this  can  be taken  further ...... can  you   explain more about  your  ideas on  how it can  be  imporived?   Or  how to take the next step ?


Maybe  this effect  can be useful

Oh .............the set up  I am using is  a set of   disk  drive magnets  on a each side of  a spare  coil of  soft  iron wire .  .....using   canvas as dielectric.

gary

Ok im sorry for my attitude, I am a little on edge, and I get frustrated when I see negative results from your Magnet Batteries that aren't designed the way I planned.

Is there ANYONE who has tested a U magnet besides me?

There is a HUGE difference when it is ONE U magnet.

Sphere magnets, cylinder magnets, bar magnets, and square magnets all have their "neutral" spot in the exact center of the metal, and the circulation is from the middle traveling outwards. In a U magnet, there is no "neutral" spot, and the circulation is around in an outer ring. The magnetic force from the U magnet is also trapped inside when enclosed with a "keeper". You can not do that with other magnets.

With experiments, I found that the stronger the magnet, the higher the volts/amps. But, even my strongest magnet didn't compare to the U magnet's strength, and the U magnets are really weak.  So this is evidence that the U magnet is the best setup, which was my MAIN DESIGN FEATURE.

I only said you can TEST with other magnets. The U magnet aspect is what you should really test.

About "The Next Step", I'm certain the next step is for people to learn to acknowledge new theories from others. It seems people don't want to discover anymore, they just want to recite books they read and trust with their heart like a Bible.


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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2008, 06:40:40 AM »
double post sorry..


resonanceman

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2008, 06:56:43 AM »
Ok im sorry for my attitude, I am a little on edge, and I get frustrated when I see negative results from your Magnet Batteries that aren't designed the way I planned.

Is there ANYONE who has tested a U magnet besides me?

There is a HUGE difference when it is ONE U magnet.

Sphere magnets, cylinder magnets, bar magnets, and square magnets all have their "neutral" spot in the exact center of the metal, and the circulation is from the middle traveling outwards. In a U magnet, there is no "neutral" spot, and the circulation is around in an outer ring. The magnetic force from the U magnet is also trapped inside when enclosed with a "keeper". You can not do that with other magnets.

With experiments, I found that the stronger the magnet, the higher the volts/amps. But, even my strongest magnet didn't compare to the U magnet's strength, and the U magnets are really weak.  So this is evidence that the U magnet is the best setup, which was my MAIN DESIGN FEATURE.

I only said you can TEST with other magnets. The U magnet aspect is what you should really test.

About "The Next Step", I'm certain the next step is for people to learn to acknowledge new theories from others. It seems people don't want to discover anymore, they just want to recite books they read and trust with their heart like a Bible.



I don't  have any U shaped  magnets at this time ...........and unfortunately  magnets  are not in  the budget any time soon .
You  didn't  say anything about  if you  saw my finding  the difference  is   voltage  change   as important or    anything .......   maybe it is not worth  the effort to  bring   it up .



As  for  your next step ..........it aint  going to happen that way . 
Everyone here is  going to be exactly who they are .......in spite of what  you want them to be.   
The question is .. ....... can you  work with people that are less than perfect  in your eyes?


gary

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2008, 07:03:23 AM »
ppl seem to have fallen in love with waterboys theory at oupower.com

the simplest way to ever get a motor running on water would be a modiied sparkplug/injector called an ELECTROSPARY SPARKPLUG

google : electrospray ionization

the sparkplug acts as an injector and sparkplug , the water is held by capilaryty gets reloaded with amazing stability at very high speed ,( this thing will never break unlike a fuel pump.)

http://youtube.com/user/wwwshark

http://youtube.com/user/elysiumcerulean

as per us patent ########### 7198208

who needs gas intake anyways? water holds hydrogen,oxygen and nitrogen, just round-off the air intake camshaft or weld it shut .This setup needs the vacuum created by the motor to facilitate electrolysis, . Timing must be perfect , as the piston goes down , the fuel chamber gets hit with enough voltage to instantly vaporize the gas .When this thing comes out, its ionized and atomized  , the molecules or atoms search  to distance themselves (this is a good thing).Next phase ,the piston compresses the ion gas , then zap it again with much higher voltage then was used to turn the water into gas-vapor . then BOOM . Thermal ignition shockwave or w/e you wanna call it . The few drops of water get refilled instantly by voltage , very simple .Exhaust that the steam out and start again. Im not sure if the motor would run cool enough that this would work. The ignition timing is the same , the only that changes is that a second voltage pulse is needed before the ignition in order to blast out the water in the expanding vacuum.

Maybe install a laser in it or w/e , might not even be needed. Ppl have got to thik how to apply it to an engine, not just making lots of bubbles

So what is needed basically ? a modified sparkplug , a second pulse .... i think thats pretty much it

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2008, 07:12:40 AM »
IIT IS NOT WORKING FOR ME

@ TheOne:

Try touching one probe to the magnet, and the other to the metal.  It's could be confusing in the picture as it looks like the second probe is on the paper......

resonanceman

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2008, 08:32:34 AM »
ppl seem to have fallen in love with waterboys theory at oupower.com

the simplest way to ever get a motor running on water would be a modiied sparkplug/injector called an ELECTROSPARY SPARKPLUG

google : electrospray ionization

the sparkplug acts as an injector and sparkplug , the water is held by capilaryty gets reloaded with amazing stability at very high speed ,( this thing will never break unlike a fuel pump.)

http://youtube.com/user/wwwshark

http://youtube.com/user/elysiumcerulean

as per us patent ########### 7198208

who needs gas intake anyways? water holds hydrogen,oxygen and nitrogen, just round-off the air intake camshaft or weld it shut .This setup needs the vacuum created by the motor to facilitate electrolysis, . Timing must be perfect , as the piston goes down , the fuel chamber gets hit with enough voltage to instantly vaporize the gas .When this thing comes out, its ionized and atomized  , the molecules or atoms search  to distance themselves (this is a good thing).Next phase ,the piston compresses the ion gas , then zap it again with much higher voltage then was used to turn the water into gas-vapor . then BOOM . Thermal ignition shockwave or w/e you wanna call it . The few drops of water get refilled instantly by voltage , very simple .Exhaust that the steam out and start again. Im not sure if the motor would run cool enough that this would work. The ignition timing is the same , the only that changes is that a second voltage pulse is needed before the ignition in order to blast out the water in the expanding vacuum.

Maybe install a laser in it or w/e , might not even be needed. Ppl have got to thik how to apply it to an engine, not just making lots of bubbles

So what is needed basically ? a modified sparkplug , a second pulse .... i think thats pretty much it

Dankie

I see that  you are saying  basically the same thing  on different  threads  here..........   do you have any experience  with this  technology ?    Or are  you part of  someones  advertising  department . ?


gary

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2008, 03:54:37 PM »
Ok the same setup STILL GOING has now reached 95.5uA and is STILL CLIMBING!
Very interesting stuff, One.

What is the resistance in ohms of your circuit?

If you wait for a steady current, note its value, and then place a small known
resistor in series, what is the new current?
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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2008, 08:23:18 PM »
Well, I spent an hour messing with various small neos, metals and paper, to no avail.  I can register some voltage (max 100 mV) but no current at all.  In fact, I can get up to 0.6V just by grabbing one of the meter leads, while the other other is touching a metalllic nut & bolt - no magnets involved!  No current either...

I wonder if this is not more a "user-specific" phenomena - a type of 'Daniel Pomerleau' thing...

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #71 on: May 27, 2008, 09:10:33 PM »
Well, I spent an hour messing with various small neos, metals and paper, to no avail.  I can register some voltage (max 100 mV) but no current at all.  In fact, I can get up to 0.6V just by grabbing one of the meter leads, while the other other is touching a metalllic nut & bolt - no magnets involved!  No current either...

I wonder if this is not more a "user-specific" phenomena - a type of 'Daniel Pomerleau' thing...

Sprocket

I am getting  results  similar to yours ........ 

I don;t think it is a  Daniel Pomereau thing .........I think  it is  a U shaped magnet thing ,

everyone   that I know of that  gets  magnets to  experment  with  gets  rare earth magnets .........I don't remember  ever seeing a U shaped  rare earth magnet


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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2008, 12:48:48 AM »
Sprocket

I am getting  results  similar to yours ........ 

I don;t think it is a  Daniel Pomereau thing .........I think  it is  a U shaped magnet thing ,

everyone   that I know of that  gets  magnets to  experment  with  gets  rare earth magnets .........I don't remember  ever seeing a U shaped  rare earth magnet


gary


Possibly, though user One's 'impatience' in one of his earlier posts suggests he finds it trivially easy to reproduce the effect, including with the use of neo magnets - which clearly isn't the case for most of the rest of us...

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2008, 01:44:52 AM »
Possibly, though user One's 'impatience' in one of his earlier posts suggests he finds it trivially easy to reproduce the effect, including with the use of neo magnets - which clearly isn't the case for most of the rest of us...

Sprocket

I don't  think so .......  he has  stressed  from the start that  U shaped magnets  work best . 

IN reply 63  he said

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With experiments, I found that the stronger the magnet, the higher the volts/amps. But, even my strongest magnet didn't compare to the U magnet's strength, and the U magnets are really weak.  So this is evidence that the U magnet is the best setup, which was my MAIN DESIGN FEATURE.

I only said you can TEST with other magnets. The U magnet aspect is what you should really test.

 

to me this means that  you can  get  "some" effect from  other magnets but the effect he is really talking about is  from U  shaped  magnets .   

gary

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #74 on: May 28, 2008, 02:35:26 AM »
@One,
Great web page. I think you have done a good job documenting this. But,can you also post a photo of your magnet battery lighting an LED. I think that is the best way to show it really delivers usable power.