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Author Topic: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV  (Read 71643 times)

Ioku

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2008, 03:27:57 AM »
LOL no I wish it was 15 lmp I got 0.15 lpm or in other words it took me 3.5 mins to get one half liter, do the math and you get about 0.15 lpm I'd like to see what luck you have with this cell I think next I'm going to try to make a series cell with these cups, hopefully that will lower the voltage though each cell enough too keep it from over heating.
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NerzhDishual

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2008, 12:47:49 AM »

Hi Ioku,

OK. You mean = 0.15 liter/minute.  So:  0.15 *60 = 9 liters/hour.
(or 0.5l / 3.5min * 60min ) =/= 9 liters/hour?
Whit (over) heating?  This sounds weak.

As I told you, I'm not still able to measure any gas production! :-\
I have just purchased this very day, the parts I was missing.

Now, I'm able to build, ASAP,  the cell, the bubbler and to make some
gas production measurement.

One picture:
(http://freenrg.info/Pic/Waiting_For_Assembly_1_small.jpg)

Please note that 'ASAP' does not mean 'swiftly' to me... :P

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Gage

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2008, 04:24:24 PM »
NerzhDishual,

Can you please elaborate on the construction method?  It is difficult to see from the photos and videos what the two pipes are made of that stick up out of the top cup. Are they tubes that thread onto the threaded rods that connect the cups together? I have just about all the parts I need to fabricate one of these twister cells, I just noticed that those two bent rods are unthreaded.

I'd ask Dallasgoldbug but he hasn't been avtive on this site for nearly a month.

Thanks in advance for any input. ;)
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dani1

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2008, 04:35:09 PM »
Frequencies?
I heared that 14.3kHZ and 43.4 khZ Pulses at 1000v hits the water. is it right?
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gchagui

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2008, 05:51:22 AM »
Quote from: Gage on May 21, 2008, 04:24:24 PM
NerzhDishual,

Can you please elaborate on the construction method?  It is difficult to see from the photos and videos what the two pipes are made of that stick up out of the top cup. Are they tubes that thread onto the threaded rods that connect the cups together? I have just about all the parts I need to fabricate one of these twister cells, I just noticed that those two bent rods are unthreaded.

I'd ask Dallasgoldbug but he hasn't been avtive on this site for nearly a month.

Thanks in advance for any input. ;)

Hi,  if you find the pics for the construction of this,  please post them,,, I found a sketch of this, but still not sure how put it up together.
I just bought my materials today, and I am waitng for construction pictures...
Hope this helps


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NerzhDishual

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2008, 12:32:51 AM »


Hi Gage, Dani1, Gchagui and everybody,

Sorry for answering late.
Sometimes, I shut down my computer for a while.

Actually, I must confess that I purchased, about a month ago, the electrodes from DallasGoldBug himself. :))

I have not dismantled them... So, here is my understanding of the DallasGoldBug  setup:
There are two 'wiredrawed?' (threaded?) long stainless steel 'bolts'.
The two 'bent pipes' are of any use (gas production-wise), IMHO.
I did not remove them because they are just 'nice' (IMHO again) :)).
These 'pipes' are just 'coupled'/forced  into  the 'bolts'. Sorry for my English.

I made a web page with some explanations and pictures:
http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect

Others pictures:

(http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect/DGB_Elec2.gif)


(http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect/DGB_Set_Up.gif)

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gchagui

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2008, 02:10:44 AM »
Quote from: NerzhDishual on May 23, 2008, 12:32:51 AM

Hi Gage, Dani1, Gchagui and everybody,

Sorry for answering late.
Sometimes, I shut down my computer for a while.

Actually, I must confess that I purchased, about a month ago, the electrodes from DallasGoldBug himself. :))

I have not dismantled them... So, here is my understanding of the DallasGoldBug  setup:
There are two 'wiredrawed?' (threaded?) long stainless steel 'bolts'.
The two 'bent pipes' are of any use (gas production-wise), IMHO.
I did not remove them because they are just 'nice' (IMHO again) :)).
These 'pipes' are just 'coupled'/forced  into  the 'bolts'. Sorry for my English.

I made a web page with some explanations and pictures:
http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect

Others pictures:

(http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect/DGB_Elec2.gif)


(http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect/DGB_Set_Up.gif)

Best
 

Thanks for your explanation....

Are you sure there are 3 positives and 2 negatives?
Shouldn't just the center cup be neutral?

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NerzhDishual

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2008, 10:29:19 PM »
Quote from: gchagui on May 28, 2008, 02:10:44 AM
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Are you sure there are 3 positives and 2 negatives?
Shouldn't just the center cup be neutral?

No, not sure at all. It was just a guess.
Could also be 3 negatives and 2 positives. :P
As DallasGoldBug  was designing this electrodes with an uneven number of 'cups'
(5 or 9) the central one could indeed be neutral!

I have noticed no visual difference when swapping the wires.
Yes, a visual observation could be misleading....
The best way is to measure the gas production.
But I'm trying to do a lot of  things at once..

So, more to come soon when I regain consciousness! ;D

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Athopi

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2008, 02:31:55 AM »
This cell rocks! Thanks for the drawings! Where are you finding the clear tubing?
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gchagui

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2008, 07:36:32 PM »
Quote from: NerzhDishual on May 28, 2008, 10:29:19 PM
No, not sure at all. It was just a guess.
Could also be 3 negatives and 2 positives. :P
As DallasGoldBug  was designing this electrodes with an uneven number of 'cups'
(5 or 9) the central one could indeed be neutral!

I have noticed no visual difference when swapping the wires.
Yes, a visual observation could be misleading....
The best way is to measure the gas production.
But I'm trying to do a lot of  things at once..

So, more to come soon when I regain consciousness! ;D

Best


Just try to find out with the multimeter........  try touch the cups and the bolts,  I mean when the multimeter beeps!
Are the bolts marked with red or black color????
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NerzhDishual

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2008, 10:01:54 PM »

@Gchagui

Quote from: gchagui on May 29, 2008, 07:36:32 PM
Just try to find out with the multimeter........  try touch the cups and the bolts,  I mean when the multimeter beeps!

Yes, very good and clever advice! I will try this (and keep you informed). :)

Quote from: gchagui on May 29, 2008, 07:36:32 PM
Are the bolts marked with red or black color????

No they were not. I just put a red tape on one the two bold as a mark.
For the moment I do not care about polarity as I cannot measure any gas.
Changing the polarities do no 'show' any difference. (visually - wise) .

However, I'm now, more advanced in my setup and I soon will be able
to give more precises informations.

This is 'open source' but not fast/swift source (and reply!). :P

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« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 10:26:17 PM by NerzhDishual »
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NerzhDishual

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2008, 10:24:59 PM »

@Athopi

Quote from: Athopi on May 29, 2008, 02:31:55 AM
This cell rocks! Thanks for the drawings! Where are you finding the clear tubing?

I found this 100mm Outer-Diameter Acrylic Tube after a tedious Goggle reseach!  :)
http://gutzwiller.set.free.fr/tubepvc.html   (in France, sorry)...
TUBE PMMA D100 E3.0

I have also purchased a 50 mm OD tube (TUBE PMMA D50 E2.0) for making a bubbler.
They are very usefull because they perfectly fit with all these plumber common parts.

Pictures to come soon.

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ba2ho

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2008, 04:00:45 PM »
What a Great Thread , this stuff is awsome !
 
 Depending on how the DGB holds up long term, should be a snap to at least take a bite out of the home heating bills !

Hey Dallas, heres a link to some solar chargers

http://www.batterystuff.com/battery-restoration/24-volt/IS24L.html?c1=1&c2=52&c3=94&id=IS24L


A little work and I'll bet the cup design produces 3 L/M per cell..

( My wifes pasta strainer went missin )  lol
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TheOne

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2008, 05:54:28 PM »
More Negative then Positive is better, because more H is released then O, N release H and P release O
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NerzhDishual

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2008, 07:23:22 PM »

@TheOne,

Thanks for these precious informations.
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