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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2007, 08:13:17 AM »
Personally guys, if I invented an over unity machine, I would not give it to the public.  I would first file a patent on it.  Second, I would start making electricity so the power company paid me.  Then I would try licensing it or start my own company (or both).  Once the patent was granted, I would then share the basic concepts with the public - never divulge all the secrets.  I guess I'm a greedy bastard, but then again I don't have an over unity device - so no worries!

sorry to hear that. maybe you haven't read http://www.overunity.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=75f92caae3e2856b642394e4b512a22d&topic=1821.0

good luck.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2007, 01:52:15 PM »
Hi everyone,

Stefan has generously posted the overunity prize of 1000 Euros and I would like to also pledge $100 from my own pocket to anyone who meets the required goals. I am doing this to encourage other forum members to do the same in an effort to increase the prize reward and encourage others to do research into this goal of overunity.

The other reason I have done it this way is that Stefan will in no way be accused of stealing the money if it takes a long period of time -- perhaps years -- before anyone is able to claim the prize. This also takes the burden off Stefan for storing the pledged money. He really doesn't need any extra burdens right now.

Since this is on the honor system I am basing my reputation on fulfilling this obligation. I pledge that anyone that Stefan rewards the Overunity prize money to, I will also send them my $100 (US Dollars).

Thank you everyone for your interest.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2007, 04:31:39 PM by ResinRat2 »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2007, 11:11:20 PM »
Stephan,

The Overunity Prize is a fantastic idea.  Its PR value is even greater than the Prize itself, and may continue to be even as the purse grows through donations.  Get other leaders in the FE/OU movement around the world to join you in this, starting with JL Naudin.   Make a website dedicated to just the Overunity Prize, so that it gets wider exposure than just through forums.  Bring in OSEN, PESN, ZPenergy, Seaspower,  etc. as Co-Sponsors with Overunity.com.   Give it a logo.

The H2earth Institute [www.h2earth.org] would be delighted to participate, by pledging to host a visit by the winning entry/inventor here to Washington, D.C., together with demonstrations of the device before Members of Congress, Congressional Staff, and various potential grants sources that might fund him to take it further.   The worldwide publicity that would accompany such demonstrations here would advance its acceptance considerably.  I'm sure that another sponsor could be found who would make similar arrangements with the EU in Brussels for the winner to attend.

Also, if you would be interested in holding fundraisers in different cities/countries to generate more cash for the Overunity Prize, we would help to facilitate one such event here.   I believe that in no time, you could raise the total purse to over $1 Million (or million euros) through a series of such events.

The [recently announced] Automotive X-Prize is a good model for your endeavor.

Best wishes on the new project!

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David L. Wenbert
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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2007, 01:40:11 AM »
Many thanks to Dave (ResinRat) for the additional donation.
Also many thanks to David for the tips how to advance the OverUnity prize. I really need some help with this all, cause I don?t have so much time to do it all by myself. So if anybody could join in, please let me know. Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2007, 02:38:44 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2007, 12:22:22 PM »
@stephan

Stephan I think what you are attempting to do is wonderful, and should be commended.  I also believe that in todays world it is unrealistic to believe that anyone will actually take you up on your offer.

If the machines can be built for $500 it will cost the inventor $1500 to build the three machines to send to you and two other testers.   On top of this it will cost several thousand dollars to freight these machines to different parts of the world.

As one who knows the costs and long hours away from your family required to develop a functional over unity device, it seems almost insulting to ask the inventor to pay to build three machines, and then to pay to freight them around the world.

I think you may be more likely to get what you want if you were to review the data from prospective inventors, and if you believe you find one with merrit, use your money to fund the building of the three test machines, and freighting them,

Kind regards

Frank

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2007, 12:22:22 PM »
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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2007, 04:12:30 PM »
Stefan,

    I am glad to see you have put this together.  I like your terms of 3 independent sites and 3 months to verify.  When someone meets those conditions I pledge a thousand in US currency to the inventor.

Over time these pledges will really add up... the word will get out even more then.

Thank you.

Daniel

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2007, 10:34:16 PM »


If the machines can be built for $500 it will cost the inventor $1500 to build the three machines to send to you and two other testers.   On top of this it will cost several thousand dollars to freight these machines to different parts of the world.
......
Kind regards
Frank

Hi Frank,
if it will be for instance a small TPU like device, where only under 1 KG copper
wire is used, I guess this device could be build for less than 50 US$.

So okay, if it needs already 500 US$ just in parts, this is
then of course more challenging...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2007, 10:59:02 PM »
Stefan,

    I am glad to see you have put this together.  I like your terms of 3 independent sites and 3 months to verify.  When someone meets those conditions I pledge a thousand in US currency to the inventor.

Over time these pledges will really add up... the word will get out even more then.

Thank you.

Daniel


Hi Daniel,
many thanks for the offer and the contribution !

I guess we should do it all in US$ currency, cause this
is more known to the users over here.

So okay, as April was okay with the advertisement I also donate another
200 US$.
So the money now in the prize pot is now:

1700 US$ from me, Stefan
1000 US$ from Daniel (user Danner)
 100 US$ from Dave (user ResinRat2)
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2800 US$ total.

Many thanks for all the contributions.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2007, 07:21:12 AM »


If the machines can be built for $500 it will cost the inventor $1500 to build the three machines to send to you and two other testers.   On top of this it will cost several thousand dollars to freight these machines to different parts of the world.
......
Kind regards
Frank

Hi Frank,
if it will be for instance a small TPU like device, where only under 1 KG copper
wire is used, I guess this device could be build for less than 50 US$.

So okay, if it needs already 500 US$ just in parts, this is
then of course more challenging...

Regards, Stefan.


Yes, it is more challenging. Unfortunately the only person it is more challenging for is the inventor you are trying to persuade to give away their lifes work.

I noticed earlier that you said that there are several wealthy members who support open sourcing.   

There were also many members who have said that they would give away the design if they came up with it.

If this is true I would think it would be a realatively simple matter to approach all of those individuals, and ask them to donate a substanial amount of money each, which could be deposited into an "Open source" trust account.

The purpose of this account will be to purchase the rights to any free energy technology which can meet your criteria.

By doing this all problems will be removed.   As soon as a functioning device is discovered the trust fund can be used to purchase the rights from the inventor, so the inventor is protected, and the "open source trust" can then release the design to the world, and share the cost of giving free energy to the world by putting their money where there mouth is, as you have done.

I would however suggest that it will be essential not just to pledge the money, but to actually donate it to the trust fund.   This will prevent any skeptisism on the part of would be claimants who are as cautious about so called prizes as you are about claims of free energy machines. 

I think many inventors who would like to open source, but cant really afford to would find this offer very attractive.

Best wishes Frank
« Last Edit: May 06, 2007, 10:29:15 AM by Magnamotion »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2007, 07:52:53 AM »
who is to check and balance the "trust" fund???

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2007, 11:47:10 AM »
get an official notary public for the trust fund etc.

KEEP IT OPEN SOURCE!


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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2007, 12:27:37 AM »


Yes, it is more challenging. Unfortunately the only person it is more challenging for is the inventor you are trying to persuade to give away their lifes work.

I noticed earlier that you said that there are several wealthy members who support open sourcing.   

There were also many members who have said that they would give away the design if they came up with it.

If this is true I would think it would be a realatively simple matter to approach all of those individuals, and ask them to donate a substanial amount of money each, which could be deposited into an "Open source" trust account.

The purpose of this account will be to purchase the rights to any free energy technology which can meet your criteria.

By doing this all problems will be removed.   As soon as a functioning device is discovered the trust fund can be used to purchase the rights from the inventor, so the inventor is protected, and the "open source trust" can then release the design to the world, and share the cost of giving free energy to the world by putting their money where there mouth is, as you have done.

I would however suggest that it will be essential not just to pledge the money, but to actually donate it to the trust fund.   This will prevent any skeptisism on the part of would be claimants who are as cautious about so called prizes as you are about claims of free energy machines. 

I think many inventors who would like to open source, but cant really afford to would find this offer very attractive.

Best wishes Frank

Hi Frank,
in the next 2 months I don?t have much time for these things
and this would take a lot of work and paperwork and organisation
to set something up like this...

So in this moment I prefer to let it stay like it is.
If somebody comes up, who can deliver these 3 devices,
which will at least output 50 Watts contineously and
will give it to us for testing, the
"donation persons" who will contribute will send the money themself
to the inventors when the prize is nominated and all is
published.
So I don?t need to keep money from other people and
everybody is safe with his own money, until the prize is
nominated and announced.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2007, 01:16:09 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #57 on: May 08, 2007, 01:56:43 PM »
Hi Frank, and all,

I think some of us are looking at this prize money in the wrong way. This is simply a reward for anyone who open-sources the technology so it can be used by the world. It does absolutely require the open-hearted generosity of the inventor to release his work for the benefit of mankind.

If you are an inventor who has no interest in releasing your work without big-time compensation, then by all means keep it to yourself. Whatever you accomplished will probably die with you and never see the light of day. If that is your idea of accomplishment then good for you. This prize, on the other hand, is for the generous of heart who see their work as a benefit toward the future accomplishments of their families and decendants, and all mankind as well.

That way your work and effort won't be buried and lost for someone else to try and discover AGAIN!
« Last Edit: May 08, 2007, 03:14:18 PM by ResinRat2 »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2007, 10:56:27 AM »
Are you kidden me,

Im all for the free energy open source. but come on. this isnt the x prize here.
Do you see Tom Bearden and Bedinini posting the MEG on here or anyother plausible overunity device. I mean im all for downing the oil barons but im having a hard time believing that anyone who discoveres a solid overuntiy device is going to forget about patenting the idea and settle for roughtly 2000$ us.

Why not just us the extra cash to keep the bandwith up on the site,

jesse

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
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