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Author Topic: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?  (Read 58422 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #210 on: March 07, 2017, 11:30:25 AM »
People here are in a bad state of mind, bad people, unproductive in life, undriven, confused.

The phrase »unproductive in life« could also be true for hot fusion researchers. Decade after decade no useful outcome. Very confusing and undriven.

They lie to themselves that they understand complex phenomenon of why and how a device should work (even if the device is 100% fraud).

And here the question reads: Who is it, that supports and funds all those elaborate frauds and why? Are intelligence agencies those who take down working devices or are they those, who contract non-working devices? Or even both?

They hang onto false hope, if you take away their hope by pointing out weakness in the story they react violently.

Or they come up with a far more better story. ;D

If you still want to discuss your questions, I would recommend to post them again on a Testatika thread here, and I will readily answer there.

If the thread is the problem then we could use that one: The Concentric Capacitor - Key to the Kapanadze Device and similar FE Concepts? because, as it now strongly looks, a lot of FE devices can be boiled down to one basic FE concept.

Unfortunately some stuff I ordered from Far East arrived broken, so I have some additional repair work to do. :(

By the way: Any business proposals anyone? So the world has to wait further on for free energy just because no one has a decent idea for their business? >:(

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #211 on: March 07, 2017, 12:01:05 PM »
@zeitmaschine: I would rather do it in a specific Testatika thread like e.g. this one: http://overunity.com/2223/source-of-energy-testatika/225/


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #212 on: March 07, 2017, 12:43:49 PM »
Yes, now there are some fake free energy inventors being funded, they get starting pay then rest is what they get by scamming, very effective strategy.

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I have many decent ideas.

I need, money.

Many times I am stalled because I have to argue with bad people.

I was replicating Stephen Meyers patent application then stopped, due to lack of funds.

It could have been a good path, I wonder what happened to him.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #213 on: March 07, 2017, 04:15:27 PM »
I have read that 10 years old thread some weeks ago but couldn't find anything really new and enlightening there. So perhaps we should really combine Aspden and Testatika in order to shed some light on this.


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #214 on: March 07, 2017, 05:14:51 PM »
That is jsut a small intuition, Aspden was not the master at explaining things clearly.

He was a bit an asshole.

What did he leave us, nothing or something big?

One thing that can be said, is that, if a device is a good path for overunity, then scammers and fraudsters will use this path and scam it and attempt to block it.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #214 on: March 07, 2017, 05:14:51 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #215 on: March 07, 2017, 06:07:30 PM »
Eh, yeah, this is certainly one possible scenario along those same lines.

The offer may be a system that actually does clearly demonstrate it is an asset and the party does collect LOTS of sales deposits and investments after proving it does work but then; the party, device and the money simply disappear.  :o

Why did it all disappear in this scenario? Don't know. Could actually be another case of banking and oil agents cleaning them out and leaving nothing.

But I will not make any assumption, remain positive and merely wait to see what happens.  8)

The site is still there and it has only been about one week since he logically announced he no longer offers expensive stuff for free.

Kindest Regards;

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One thing that can be said, is that, if a device is a good path for overunity, then scammers and fraudsters will use this path and scam it and attempt to block it.

Offline memoryman

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #216 on: March 07, 2017, 07:19:20 PM »
"banking and oil agents" please, no more conspiracy sh!t.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #216 on: March 07, 2017, 07:19:20 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #217 on: March 07, 2017, 09:41:33 PM »
Eh...
What is the PURPOSE of this forum?

I believe it is for the seeking of our energy independence away from the control of energy companies including banks that own the companies.
I also believe he who CREATES it has right to CONTROL it including energy and energy bills.

Please forgive my belief systems.  8)

Are we to understand your personal belief system is that you do not believe international bankers own major oil companies and "our oil interests" are a matter of "national security" and they do kill people who are a threat to national security including outright wars?
Or that you do not believe numerous alternative energy inventors have been murdered, discredited or litigated to financial ruin in addition to the wars?

If yes and you do not actually believe these things then; no problem and I accept your belief.
Most of us in free, civil societies do respect and forgive personal belief systems of other peoples.  :)

If not for the obvious threats to national security including oil companies then; why do the inventors keep getting murdered if not for these reasons of national security including our international oil interests?

Or simply ask: What happen to Nikola Tesla after the corporations discovered he intended to provide wireless electricity that cannot be easily controlled and metered for the benefit of money makers?

I am not saying it is good or bad. Not saying it is true or false. I take no position. Capitalism and Corporatocracy is merely what it is. A neutral event. *shrugs*  :)

But I do BELIEVE a matrix of controlling corporations and many details of such murders do exist-
http://mapper.nndb.com/t/795/10765/l10765.jpg
https://goo.gl/J0C0zc

I also believe John Bedini and his brother both dropped dead on the same day.

Please forgive my personal belief systems.

Kindest regards;

}:>

PS:
Most conspiracies are crimes that should be thoroughly investigated when there is a theory a conspiracy may exist and ignorance of the law excuse none.
Ignorance is bliss until somebody takes advantage of our ignorance.

"banking and oil agents" please, no more conspiracy sh!t.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #218 on: March 07, 2017, 11:33:37 PM »
You still free to believe anything, including for which there is little or no evidence.
"not believe numerous alternative energy inventors have been murdered, discredited or litigated to financial ruin in addition to the wars?" Many people are, and have been 'murdered, discredited or litigated to financial ruin'. I am sure some of them were 'alternative energy inventors'. It is assigning a causal relationship to these crimes that I find highly doubtful.
Note that many 'alternative energy' inventions that were once disruptive are now commonplace; new ones are being developed right now and some will make it to market, but they won't be based imho on much that you find on this site.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #219 on: March 08, 2017, 12:39:32 AM »
The suppression of the thorium battery:

"Worst still is what has been happening in the nuclear battery development arena. In 1996-1998, Dr. Shimoda (Osaka University of Technology), Dr. Khanna (Harvard), Dr. Eugene Mallove (MIT) and Dr. Aries M. DeGeus introduced the world to the realities of MHD physics and plasma powered energy - the same energy we see in lightning bolts during a thunderstorm. They put forth solid theories that even the U.S. DoE embraced and subsequently sponsored over $40 million of research that resulted in the publication of 5 white papers that were once posted on the internet between 1997-2008, but which all then mysteriously vanished in 2010 without explanation.

Further, at least three, and possibly as many as five inventors including Russian Dimitri Petronov, and Americans Aries DeGeus, Dr. Mallove, and "Daniel" produced working prototypes of a Thorium plasma battery that was demonstrated to dozens of people, and unfortunately both the American, and Russian militaries. With zero emissions, these batteries were scalable and could put out consistent voltage with less than .0002 fluctuation, and could be regulated with an AC/DC converter. They could theoretically put out reliable energy without fission for their entire half-life. In the case of the Thorium 232 isotope, the battery could operate for over a hundred years. The three known prototypes powered an electric scooter, a two bedroom home, and a small four passenger car for over a year without a single recharge. Then word got out.

Since then, two of these inventors were murdered and two others disappeared and nobody knows what happened to the prototypes. Then the Pentagon invoked “National Security” and issued a gag order to the only surviving inventor who has since gone underground. Information at the DoE about Thorium and other nuclear batteries vanished just like related details at over a dozen other links like these were also removed"


 http://www.rexresearch.com/articles2/thorium.htm

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #220 on: March 08, 2017, 01:36:10 AM »
I am also free to believe in actual evidence and history such as the Rockefeller industrialist-banking family has its roots deep in the oil industry which serves to support my belief some other European banking families have a similar history therefore I do believe Big Banking and Big Oil is very entangled in a broad matrix of control of international conglomerates.

I also believe that oil is a strictly controlled commodity much like diamonds are and only a few very elite groups actually know the TRUE source and availability of sweet crude.

I also believe in math and chemistry.   8)

C02+4H2 --->CH4+2H20
Just need high pressure and heat and there is VERY high pressure and heat deep below the surface.  ;D

http://rodscontracts.com/images/misc/CrudeCreationProcess.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/misc/DeepOil.jpg

Kindest regards;

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You still free to believe anything, including for which there is little or no evidence.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #221 on: March 08, 2017, 01:58:28 PM »
Eh... a lot of complicated, confusing stuff has appeared which may be a distracting misdirection as I have experienced so many times on this forum.  ???

Sometimes; simpler actually is better.  ;)

Just because a new system may appear as "to good to be true" this does not mean there has not been a breakthrough simpler method to achieve a desired result per the alleged goal of this forum.  8)

Case in point-
I recently (yesterday) discovered what appears to be another replication of the Kapanadze device which is being analyzed by Stivep1 here-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiT0hPYSiss

And he is not sure if it's the real thing but as I review Rick's video about these systems; he points out there are actually many different ways to configure this system based on the original design and does not have to be so complicated-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcFWuchjaqk

And I was writing a reply to Stivep1's thread; youtube suggested I watch this new 3 part series titled: "Simple steps for Above Unity - Partnered Output Coils 101 -"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2PV6N75mrk

This new series is about his studies of these various systems which begins with his own recent personal experiences on this forum.  ::)

Just food for thought.

Kindest regards;

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Here I'm explaining, how the overunity arises from anapole field. For to achieve the anapole field, multiple conditions must be fulfilled, one of them is the resonance of scalar waves. This is because we need to modulate light speed faster, than the EM wave propagates itself. It's not so impossible as it looks at the first sight, because within materials of high permeability and/or permeability the speed of EM wave propagation is much lower than the speed of light in vacuum. The extreme case is the boson condensate, where the EM waves propagate with speed of few meters per second, so we can modulate their speed in mechanical way.

Being (mostly) longitudinal waves of vacuum, the scalar waves are doing most of things exactly in the opposite way than the transverse EM waves. For example the EM waves get radiated, when the EM field is changing its polarity, whereas the scalar waves get radiated only, when it's changing its intensity, i.e. during pulses and transient phenomena within material in (negative) dependence of field density to energy density. The EM waves get absorbed / radiated well with materials where the electrons can move freely, i.e. the metals. The scalar waves are absorbed / radiated just with materials and systems, where these electrons get immobilized (Dirac/Weyl/Majorana fermion materials), i.e. the superconductors, topological insulators and graphene, charged capacitors of ferromagnets in anapole arrangement. These materials get transparent for light waves instead. And so on...

There is less known but intriguing aspect of transverse waves, they cannot be radiated with spherical antennae.  As you may expect (and Konstantin Meyl demonstrated), the scalar waves just love spherical antennae instead. And their resonators would be therefore formed just with concentric spheres or their likes (bi-conical coils of Tesla and/or cylindrical capacitors similar to Leyden jars).

But as I explained above, the scalar waves fu*k metal conductors in general and they respect electrons only once they're immobilized with strong electric field. From this follows, that scalar wave resonator must be formed with CHARGED concentric capacitor, or better to say, with field gradient at its plates. From this insight follows the concept of captret, i.e. the capacitor stack formed with system of nested charged spheres, which are separated with voltage gradient each other. The usage of such a configuration in InnovaTehno or Testatika devices has therefore its good theoretical meaning in the same way, like the Wehrsen / Wimshurst's disks, which keep them charged.


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #222 on: March 08, 2017, 02:22:39 PM »
Am I the only one thinking that this thread has gone far too offtopic?

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #223 on: March 08, 2017, 02:57:29 PM »
Am I the only one thinking that this thread has gone far too offtopic?
Nope, you're not


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #224 on: March 08, 2017, 02:58:45 PM »
Shanti
 the topic is being investigated here ,just not in this thread...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fiF6yJJX0

http://overunity.com/17063/smudges-musings-on-electro-kinetic-potential-in-the-earths-a-field/msg500626/#msg500626

There is a definite hunger to understand the "what ifs"
and electrostatics can be experimented with quite easily .

the above thread is attempting to investigate the Innova device here at this forum.


respectfully
Chet K
PS
I see your recommendation above [mirrored at link below]

http://overunity.com/2223/source-of-energy-testatika/225/#.WMAbEbkzVHA

a very good spot to rekindle interest



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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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