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Author Topic: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?  (Read 183072 times)

Offline tsl

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #150 on: February 28, 2017, 12:20:40 PM »


Just a big lol,

Free trial period has ended.
[size=inherit]28. February 2017 [size=inherit]Jakov Brkić[size=inherit]News
Dear potential costumers, our free trial period has ended. Now we won’t be giving any free testing anymore.The new terms of buying will soon be announced and every costumer who ordered the generator will get the new terms in their e-mail as feedback information.Thank you for your patience and stay tuned.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #151 on: February 28, 2017, 12:25:08 PM »
Also another one
Dear potential partners and investors!Regarding business opportunities, we are open for everyone and all kinds of collaboration.The first step would be that you kindly introduce yourself and tell us your business proposals.We will answer to your proposal in the shortest time.[/font][/size]
Business contact: business@innovatehno.eu[/font][/size]

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #152 on: March 01, 2017, 05:27:21 AM »
Just a thought on a possible purpose of what appears to be a typical bicycle generator.

This is a PM rotor AC alternator that may serve as a signal-tachometer generator for the electronics.

Don't know why, is speculation and I certainly wish inventors would honorably open source inventions for the benefit of all (including the inventor) before they suddenly disappear once again as history has recorded numerous times.

Kindest regards;

}:>

Very interesting?

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #152 on: March 01, 2017, 05:27:21 AM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #153 on: March 01, 2017, 06:15:42 PM »



This is latest e-mail from them as of today. I challenged them to open source their device.


order@innovatehno.eu

to me
2 hours ago

Details


Dear Sir/Madam, we received your order.
Due to the increased interest for our generator IPP7.4 220V 50Hz 7.35 kW we are not able to give everyone the free trial anymore.
If you are still interested in buying our product, we can deliver it to you under these conditions:
cca 50% advanced payment of the price, the rest you pay upon delivery, shipping deadline is 90-120 days from the moment you pay the advance.
If you agree with these conditions, we will send you the contract with all the details and conditions.
Regards, Innovatehno Team

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #154 on: March 01, 2017, 06:21:10 PM »
Overunity claim + advance payment + Stefan not getting his promised unit = SCAM

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #154 on: March 01, 2017, 06:21:10 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #155 on: March 01, 2017, 06:34:31 PM »
Very strange situation. There is no presentation from people who got to test. Maybe is total secret. It looks bad.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #156 on: March 01, 2017, 09:12:56 PM »
It looks like Magnacoaster.  It's a "50% down, wait for four months" down payment scam.  Everything so far has been a build-up to this moment.  You build a prop, make a web site, do a YouTube video, make claims that there are beta test sites, make fake promises that you are going to deliver more free demo systems, and then after all that build-up you change the terms to a 50% down payment before shipping.  Get as many down payments as possible and then vacate your little apartment, cancel your cell phone, and then just go find another apartment to live in.  If 100 people send you down payments of 1500 Euros, then you have 150,000 Euros.  You can live off of that stolen money for a few years.  You are not a big enough scam to have he local government or law enforcement chase after you.  The chances of people half-way around the world chasing after you are very slim.

I know where the guy got his inspiration.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #156 on: March 01, 2017, 09:12:56 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #157 on: March 01, 2017, 09:20:20 PM »
Today it's impossible to make money with free energy scam: the customer lawyers would eat you alive. On the contrary, try to imagine, that thousands of free energy deniers will send you fake orders with requirement for test - this will undoubtedly ruin your business. Which preemptive measure will you apply in such a case?

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #158 on: March 01, 2017, 09:33:04 PM »
Of course you can make money with a free energy scam.  There are countless examples.  The nature of human psychology falls on a bell curve.  There are always people at one end of the bell curve that will believe in things like this and submit their down payments.  That is the only thing these people are interested in and they will ignore all requests to test the machine.  Nobody is going to spend 4000 Euros on a lawyer for a 1500 Euro order.  Human psychology in relation to large numbers of people does not lie, and it is there to be exploited in many ways.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #158 on: March 01, 2017, 09:33:04 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #159 on: March 01, 2017, 09:34:31 PM »
Not necessarily a scam. There may actually be very good reason for not being able to produce and deliver many systems for free as this would certainly be very costly for a startup company.

BUT; the company SHOULD be able to provide a "test drive" unit for a thorough examination.
Especially for somebody like Stefan and these forums for purposes of independent confirmation of system performance which would certainly help to increase their orders and bring in investors.

And a test unit can always be returned back to the company which should make an honorable offer to provide this test unit just as a vehicle dealer will provide a free test drive and examination of its product.

And since it does appear to be based on older known technologies, there should not be any secrets.
The company also claims delivery vehicles will be powered by this system so where are those images and videos?

There really does need to be performance reports from third parties and so far, no such reports or customer reviews as promised in an email as follows-

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On 2017-01-02 13:10, Info wrote:
Thank you mr Rodney, of course. We'll have a prototype in our office so everyone can see it at work.
Just follow the website for the neweset info.
Regards, Jakov

On 2.1.2017. 18:48, rod@rodscontracts.com wrote:
Thank you for your timely response. :)

I do require that I examine and trial a system for evaluation and possible purchase of at least one unit before consideration of any major investment for the establishment of a manufacturing or distributor facility.

So; please stay in touch and inform me when these systems become available for the US and and I do understand the need to go slow with this type of new product so I will certainly maintain patience and I wish you a happy new year to you and yours.

Plus I will maintain positive, source field energy thoughts for you, your company and this endeavor. :)

Kindest regards;
Rodney.
 
 
On 2017-01-02 02:03, Info wrote:
Hello mr Rod, thank you for contacting us at Innovatehno,
Eventually it will. We want to go slow with this.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will make changes to the website, this is just for starters.

As for business,
I am sending you now some basic information about opening a sister company:

You would need a minimum of 700 000 € of your own money, no banks or 3rd parties.
If it is possible for the sister company to be named as ours, for example Innovatehno Cambodia it would be great but if not there won't be no problem.

A workshop of 500 m2-700 m2

We would then send you the belt conveyor drive system with all the parts necessary for production which you will co-finance of course.

You would obtain 80% of the parts from your market, and we will send the other 20% to you.(special materials for the "heart" of the machine).

One of our people would have to be there as a supervisor for at least six months who you would pay.

We would have to sign mostly standard "sister companies agreement/contract" in your country.
And at the end we would split the selling profit 50%-50%

Regards, Jakov Brkic

On 31.12.2016. 20:49, rod@rodscontracts.com wrote:
Hello; how are you? I am fine. :)

I just want to let you know that I am personally very interested in your system and hoping this system will eventually be distributed in the US.
I am the originator of a small appliance service company in Colorado and might even be a possible distributor and/or service provider in this rural area east of Denver.
I will be keeping an eye on your site and videos and I do suggest that you might want to add a customer review section to your site as well as more photographs of systems and delivery vehicles powered by these systems.

Please acknowledge receipt of this message.

Kindest regards;
Rodney.

1-303-809-4229
www.rodsonctracts.com

So; yeah, still waiting for independent confirmation or at least, a client review page on their site as well as more details about how the system actually works.
Not going to buy without at least a basic knowledge of what is being offered. Not going to invest without a THOROUGH knowledge of the offer.

Show me the working system and I would consider buying it. Show me the actual design and potential market and I might consider building them for local distribution.

Kindest regards;

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Overunity claim + advance payment + Stefan not getting his promised unit = SCAM
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #160 on: March 01, 2017, 11:05:00 PM »
Milehigh, I like that picture ,of the time machine, from that old movie.
You nailed it , something aint right .
Good to see you around again.
lol artv

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #161 on: March 02, 2017, 11:00:05 AM »
Why does the Innova Tehno 1943 product page remind me of that Perendev product page?

Because it's the same make?

Perendev: »a sale/lease agreement gives the person the use of the equipment for 5 years which is prepaid«

Innova Tehno 1943: »The user (buyer) has to sign a contract, to not open the device for a period of 5 years, which is the period of warranty as well«

The Perendev device was solely presented as an incomplete prototype. The image of the factory-made device on the old product page is an obvious fake. Also the Innova Tehno 1943 device is presented so far solely as an incomplete prototype. I don't think those gray boxes on the images (one is a simple tool shed) have real factory-made devices in them.

So, looks like Innova Tehno 1943 is Perendev reloaded?

I'm not saying that those devices are fake per se. But something points strongly in the direction that the Innova Tehno 1943 device will go down the drain like the Perendev device did.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #162 on: March 02, 2017, 06:42:30 PM »
Hi All,
I got the same mass email just telling me that the amount of orders was too much and it should now be prepaid
half the price  ! So no personal email , but just a mass email....

Seems this really is a scam...
So please nobody pay them in advance, before a trustable person gets independent access to it
and can make his own test and look, if there are no cables going into the legs from the floor....
Here is the address of InnovaTehno.eu where the device was, when the visitor known to me on the 4th of December 2016 was allowed to look at the device on site. But because the device was screwed to the ground floor, it could not be moved, which surely has the high probability, that there is a cable from the floor going through a leg into the device and therefore the energy just comes
from the local grid...
and thus is not generated by the machine, so a fake ....

https://goo.gl/maps/UixAiYfqERR2

Here are 2 pictures where InnovaTehno.eu is exactly located.


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #164 on: March 02, 2017, 09:47:52 PM »
Ebay is certainly no joke and does include safe harbor buyer protections plus the offer stipulates the buyer does except returns so; this could potentially be a protected way for somebody in the UK to buy and test a unit and if it FAILS to perform as described; simply return it back through Ebay and Paypal buyer protection claim.  :)

I did ask the seller these questions just a few minutes ago-
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Hello; how are you?

In consideration this is a major purchase; can you please provide more details about how this generator operates including principle of operation and technical specifications?

This image appears to be cropped. Can you provide more detailed images?

Please respond. Kindest regards; Scorch

With regards to showroom unit being bolted to the floor; do not know why this would be and whoever is there looking at the system should ask that specific question regarding portability.

If it cannot be demonstrated as a portable generator that can be loaded on a vehicle and delivered to a job site then, applications may be limited. They SHOULD be able to answer the question as to WHY it is bolted to the floor such as a prototype that vibrates and tends to walk across the floor.

I have certainly had a few experimental machines around here that did vibrate a lot. . .

Kindest regards;

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This is jokes ?  :o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FREE-ENERGY-GENERATOR-ZERO-POINT-ENERGY-7-3Kw-220V-/132106746213

 

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