Thanks hanon

remember how he defines two positioning ways (as seen in the two drawings):

several groups consisting each in two inducers with an induced in the middle,
A-placed one besides the other,
and B-  placed one after the other

Something intriguing, in B description, is about placing the top of the induced cores in the sinus of the inducer (inside ?)

Also intriguing is to place a second induced (smaller) inside the core of the induced
(would it be hollow ?)

Too many questions

hasta pronto

With the exception of Garry, the underlining principle went right over your head!


MagnaProp, you need a CLOSED magnetic circuit, that is an open magnetic circuit you are presenting, you will loose the energy from the ends of the core. That's is a simple fact, nothing special will happen.

Hannon, the magnetostriction effect is a freebee tool to achieve a result. It is not the source of free energy, with out it you would have to expend energy to Open and Close the magnetic circuit. The magnetostriction effect is a LOW COST solution.

ALL the magic happens in the iron core, energy is accelerated with a closed magnetic circuit and then exploded outward when opened. This is also a simple fact that has been written about by Ed L, see his book. 


Bottom line:
A closed magnetic circuit, very little lines of force project outward from the iron.
An open magnetic circuit, lines of force project outward from the iron.

These lines of force MOVE out, from the iron and then MOVE into the iron, HERE is the change in the FLOW of force we need

Quote from Figuera:

“There is production of induced electrical current provided that you change in any way the flow of force through the induced circuit”

That's it, no more complected then what is written above, those are also facts that you will find in any book.


If you manually open a magnetic circuit, work is required.
If you close a magnetic circuit, work is required.

The magnetostriction effect will do the work for you at a very low cost. You only need to provide an initial magnetic field to expand the iron. It will automatically retract when the magnetic field is removed, consequently OPENING the magnetic circuit.

To get a natural force to do WORK for you is an engineers wet dream.

The deal with the shorted coil was taken from one of the patents I cited, may not be necessary.

Important point number 1:
- The shape of the core is insignificant with this concept.

Important point number 2:
- All the action happens with the initial primary coil. Secondary/pickup coil is insignificant.

Fact:
Both points above are stated in the patent's and hold true for this design.

This technique may explain many other FE devices such as the TK device. Nobody has experimented using these simple principles. Everbody wants it to be MORE complicated.

I just want to clear up my point on this concept as it was being presented wrong by others.


Time to build.

Good Luck gentlemen. 

-Core


 

Is there a energy researcher - Russian speaker, who is willing to work with me? Does anyone know a Russian speaker would be willing to translate videos into Hebrew or English?

Hi all,


Patrick Kelly has updated in his ebook the info referred to the Figuera Generator. Now the info presents with a higher degree of fidelity the original concepts included in Figuera´s patents


Apart from the 1908 patent, in the book now it is also included new info from the two patents filed in 1902: the motionless generator (patent no. 30378) and the generator with the rotary coil (patent no. 30376)


Link in HTML:  http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt3.html


Link in PDF:  http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf


Below I post the sketch from the 1908 patent, and also the sketches from the 1902 patents: the motionless generator and the rotary coil generator.


Regards
 

Hi Hanon,

This is just a what if scenario, but what if those wire wound resistors were actually inductive? The "make before break" and the patent below would compress the flux through the windings momentarily increasing output to the drive coils.

US 4431960: Current amplifying apparatus

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4431960A/en

More pictures are being attached.


More pictures and data details were also provided on the previous page in my post #2519.

I will come back to the forum in a few months.

Thank you,
Bajac

Thanks for pointing out the secondary induced. I'm still trying to picture it in 3D.

I'm giving up this research and this is my last post. I have actually asked the admin to delete all my posts and remove my account but that was not obliged.

Figuera Device is probably the second device to use a well known principle and the first being (If I'm correct, Daniel McFarland Cooks Device). The principle is simple. If you make a large permanent magnet core, there is a static magnetic field around it. If you can oscillate that static magnetic field so it becomes an oscillating magnetic field you can generate electricity from the oscillating or time varying magnetic field by putting  conductor in the area of influence of the now time varying magnetic field. In order to achieve it you need to ensure two things. High voltage AC must be applied and milliamps must be provided so that the permanent magnet is not destroyed. However this has the possibility of reducing the magnetic strength of the permanent magnet significantly.

Figuera therefore used DC Electromagnets and increased the Voltage by providing a lot of resistance and oscillated the DC using the DC commutator. He avoided backemf by ensuring that both N and S magnets had current always. The rotary device is an electromechanical device. It is quite difficult to avoid sparks unless it is professionally built but can be obtained. Since the current flowing was oscillated DC or as Doug1 indicated undulated DC the magnetism was not lost. If a shunted or shoted coil is placed over the core the shorted coil will act like a capacitor and will develop enormous amperage and so the magnetic field strength of the N and S permanent Magnets is never reduced. So far I have not seen any one mentioning the fact that the core is a permanent magnet core in the primaries.

If it very difficult to use high voltage pulsed DC or DC using mains. The amount of current drawn is very high. We can use step down transformers to make DC and create a powerful DC Electromagnet.

The second thing is that the resistors can be placed in between N1 and N2 and N2 and N3 and N3 and N4 and so on..This will result in the current being progressively reduced and voltage being progressively increased. In the opposite S magnets Since current is given from S7 to S1 reverse is the case. If in N magnets current is high, in S magnets the voltage is high.

Another important point is that Figuera used the amplification method. When you apply the current in parallel the output in the secondary is four times of what is expected if the voltage is halved by giving the current in serial.  Figuera avoided this by giving the current in parallel. The current moved from the edges to the center of the magnets and then went back to the edges of N and S. It is similar to clapping the hands. The secondary in the middle is half the diameter of the primary and half the length of the primary. (one primary) Therefore when the clapping hands moved towards the center the magnetic field strength in the center is very high. Voltage is high in one primary and magnetic field strength is high in another primary and this has resulted in the output in the secondary being high. The output is based on the diameter of the wire used in the secondary and the voltage developed. Voltage of the secondary is based on the number of turns and the current of the secondary is based on the diameter of the secondary wire. It necessarily follows that the number of turns in the primary must be high, sufficient to handle the current but also sufficient to create a magnetic field strength even if the current is low.

One way of doing this device without hassles is to give DC current through step down transformers to make the electromagnet a staturated permanent magnet core. This can be for about 2/3rd of the primary core. The rest of the primary core can have few layers of a coil that is neither shorted nor connected to any load but is kept open with the open ends insulated. On this we can have a multifilar coil of very thin wires and maintain the polarity of the cores. The permanent magnet will remain a permanent magnet. The multifilar coil will provide only milliamps and 220 volts AC. The input AC cannot demagnetise the permanent magnet which is in a saturated condition but it can easily distort the magnetic field. The output in the secondary is based on the number of turns and thickness of wires of the secondary. This is one way we can avoid the DC commutator.

I have observed COP>1 results two times. I have tried to replicate the Ramaswami device and reduced the output voltage to 351 volts and connected to the same earth points to which I connected two years back. Input was about 600 watts. Outut was dismal. 351 volts and 0.4 amps. I could not believe myself. Why the same earth points which produced an unbelievable amount of amperage two years back now would not work. Then a member of the forum who has occassionally posted here indicated that the earth rod would have rusted and the rust would have created an insulation and that might be the reason. I checked with a mentor who is a Prof in inorganic Chemistry only to be scolded that how I did not understand this simple thing of chemical reaction taking place and why I did not create fresh earth points after two years. The only rust proof metals that will never rust is 316L grade steel or Titanium. But the earth point for them should be prepared in such a way that they will not chemically interact with the surrounding material for the earth points to work as anticipated and desired. In addition the combination of salt water and the media surrounding the rust proof earth points must also be checked if we want to use the Earth. This is the specific reason why people are not able to use earth points consistently. Once we give a lot of current and water the earth point will interact with the surrounding carbon powder and salt and water very fast and will be rusted so much that the surface area available for conducting electricity is reduced. This is one of the reasons why people find it difficult to replicate the Barbosa and Leal devices. It works first time and second time onwards the efficiency goes down. If the above methodology is not checked and the earth points are electrical conductors working only like inert materials the problem will occur. I checked the centre coil alone and the output was 33 volts and 6 amps and it was able to light 10x200 watts lamps. Naturally not full brightness but the point was that if at 33 volts we get 6 amps and 10x200 watts lamps can glow, at 351 volts the output should be quite high.But when connected to the same earth points the output was just 0.4 amps. 

Figuera concept has now been implemented in a number of devices where permanent magnet is used on the transformer cores to increase the output. These devices are bound to fail after some time or if high AC fields are used for the permanent magnet will be significantly reduced and will be divested of the permanent magnetism. In addition the core will be heated if high current passes through and that will also demagnetise the permanent magnet. Figuera eliminated all these things at one stroke by making the entire primary cores DC Electromagnets and made them non-saturated permanent magnets. This is why the BuForn patent claims that what happens in the secondary is insigificant and every thing is done in the two primaries.

Now where is the extra energy coming from? There is no extra energy. This is quite difficult to understand. There is no violation of law of conservation of energy.

This device works like the solar cell. Solar cells produce electricity due to solar radition. We do not supply the solar radiation. It comes in nature. Similarly the magnets absorb charges from the atmosphere and keep conducting it from one pole to other. Every permanent magnet does not.

As I understand there are two particles which move from the atmosphere inside the permanent magnets. One of them is small and moves very fast and likes high resistance and is responsible for causing voltage. This is focussed on one pole of the magnets. The other particle is larger in size and moves slowly and requires thick wires and is responsbile for amperage and is saturated at the opposite poles. Both of them if I understand correctly are positive and negative charges. This is why like poles of magnets repel each other and unlike poles attract each other. It is the nature of magnets to attract the charges from the atmosphere and they keep travelling through the magnets and move out again in to the atmosphere and the process is repeated as long as the magnet remains a magnet. These two particles enter the magnet at diffent poles and once they are saturated inside the magnet they keep moving out to the atmosphere at the other end and the process is continuously repeated. This is why magnets are different from other non magnetic materials. It should be possible to check a permanent magnets aura and the movement of charges must be visible with proper instruments. This is why DC current which requires thick wires could not move to lot of distances and AC current which uses very high voltage could be transmitted to long distances. The voltage causing particle dislikes the thick wires and is reduced in the thick wires. If high voltage were to be transmitted through thick wires of less resistance we would require high current or very high amperage to be moved through the wire and the slower amperage particles cannot travel long distance. I may not be correctly describing but this is what happens.

You can test this by keeping two permanent magnets with their opposite poles on your both sides of your palm and you will know that the magnetic field penetrates your hand and muscles and the opposite poles will stick to each other and the hand will become warm after some time. If you want to do it cover your hand with a plastic sleeve and test as the magnets can easily pinch your skin and cause significant damage. So be careful. This method can relieve arthirities and will cause the blood to be charged and can kill bacterias, viruses and pathogens in the body. It can cure any disease in the human body. But the principle is that it charges the blood flowing in the body. This principle is used in the Magnetic pulsar of Bob Beck.

I understand that the idea that in generators where DC Electromagnets are rotated and output is less has led to the wrong notion that it is conversion of mechanical energy to electrical energy. If we put wood or plastic core and rotate it, will it result in the production of electricity. Of course not. A magnet on its own has a static field. The rotating magnetic core causes the rotating magnetic field or time varying magnetic field and the conductor subjected to this field produces electricity. The magnet need not be rotated for this. It is enough if we oscillate the static field to an oscillating field. The energy needed for oscillating the field of a large magnet is low but the output can be very high as it is based on the strength of the magnetic field, the diameter of secondary wire and the turns of the secondary wire.

Some how this is a very unlucky field. Figuera passed away within a few days of filng this patent. Other people who test this suffer. I myself has suffered very significantly and finally decided to stop all this.

Many questions have been raised why I have not posted any photos or videos. Unfortunately we had people checking if what I say is correct or not. Even those replicators suffered. In my case it is both personal and financial and professional and whatever I do I suffer. it is for this reason I stop this.

Whether COP>1 is possible? Yes. It is doable What is needed for it. Identify a ferromagnetic material that will have high magnetism as a permanent magnet and will not be demagnetized by the application of high voltage and milliamps AC input. About 40% of the rods that I used remain permanent magnets. other rods are not. We will need to check the composition of the rods and what is the difference in the molecular structure of the rods that remain permanent magnets and those that are not.

However when you do the COP>1 set up you have a kind of magnetic vortex forming in the central core. This is actually frightening. I'm no hero and at the kind of current I employed this kind of dangerous phenomena occurs. This should be avoided. For this reason the core should be significantly large and it is better to magnetise the core not to saturation but some lower point so that the magnetic vortex kind of things are avoided. I'm not interested in this field any more. It is a fairly unlucky field. I would sincerely advice any one to avoid this.

TK is a very intelligent man. He appears to use power Electronics. He pointedly asked me a question as to what is the shape of the waves and whether the full wave positive sign waves are above 5. it simply means whether the magnetic field is not allowed to collapse. Only when the magnetic field collapses backemf will come or Lenz law will operate. TK indicated he would need to check it with an osciloscope. Prof Figuera avoided all that by using DC to magnetise the core first and then oscillating the DC so the permanent magnet is never demagnetised. Figuera also avoided that even if there is high amperage the permanent magnet would remain a permanent magnet for the DC current is always there. I do not think Prof Figuera had access to an oscilloscope. But in his claims he also pointed out that the heat is avoided in the device and so the maintenance is low. Therefore the core size is high and magnetism was not allowed to reach the saturation point by him. The invention remains state of the art even today after  107 years of its filing. It appears to employ the magnetic amplifier principle but the two primaries are both acting together to create that effect.

I have not checked if the device can be made to operate on its own. I'm told that if the COP>1 comes the device can operate on its own. High Voltage is needed for this to be achieved. But the secondary core must be larger to avoid the excessive magnetic saturation and the heat.
I frankly do not think that this device can be used for electromobiles. you need large cores to avoid heat. The weight of iron and coils that I used is greater than the weight of small electric cars. But my knowledge is very limited and I may well be wrong.

Let me focus on my practice. Sorry no pictures no videos and no responses. Some people in this forum have seen the photos and videos. This is a very unlucky field. Some one indicated that those doing this kind of thing would come under spiritual attacks. it seems to be the case. Let me completely avoid this unlucky field and let me focus on my practice. I will send the rods that became permanent magnets even after applying high voltage and high amperage AC and retain a remanent magnetism to some one who can verify what is their internal structure and what is the modification caused to them and what is their chemical composition and any other thing necessary. On my part I'm least interested in this.

I would again request the admin to delete all my posts and my account. Enough is enough. I decided to write this for no one appears to disclose that the primary cores become semi saturated permanent magnets and remain permanent magnets always and the rotary device is used to create undulated DC to distort the magnetic field of permanent magnets in the primary cores and that the secondary in the middle must be half the dia of the primary and half the length of the primary and so it experiences a sudden increase in the magnetic field strength and then it is reduced and increased again and again. There is nothing more to this device. Prof. Figuera himself indicates that the rotary device can be dispenses with a switch. Possibly an electromechnical switch but I'm not able to understand it. I have been successful only whe high voltage is applied and whenever low voltage is applied the output did not come. So high voltage and milliamps and high number of turns using the multifilar coils or helical coils of small wires and thick wires to send low voltage and high amperage DC to keep the rods powerful permanent magnets is what is needed here. The device certainly works and not a hoax. I believe I have shared all I know now in the forum and so let me leave and focus on my practice.