Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2 (Read 314650 times)

jake · « **Reply #300 on:** June 23, 2006, 01:46:30 PM »

Jason,

Very nice drawings.
What format are the cad files? I don't recognize the .sat extension.

Jake

Cisco · « **Reply #301 on:** June 23, 2006, 06:10:51 PM »

Quote from: Jdo300 on June 23, 2006, 08:35:04 AM

I changed the 360 degree spiral to a 150 degree spiral but I can easily change this if necessary.
God Bless,
Jason O

Jason, are you sure about your measurement? In your image 0008.gif the cutout looks a whole lot closer to 120 degrees.
Cisco

Duranza · « **Reply #302 on:** June 23, 2006, 09:04:19 PM »

The stator arms will lock the rotor as it tries to fall down to ramp since the arm is bigger than the wheel. Other than that the drawings look great.

Jdo300 · « **Reply #303 on:** June 23, 2006, 10:09:01 PM »

Quote from: jake on June 23, 2006, 01:46:30 PM

Jason,

Very nice drawings.
What format are the cad files? I don't recognize the .sat extension.

Jake

Hi Jake

I used Autodesk Inventor 6 to make the CAD drawings. I can always convert them to dxf or dwg format if you would like.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300 · « **Reply #304 on:** June 23, 2006, 10:11:30 PM »

Quote from: Cisco on June 23, 2006, 06:10:51 PM

Quote from: Jdo300 on June 23, 2006, 08:35:04 AM
I changed the 360 degree spiral to a 150 degree spiral but I can easily change this if necessary.
God Bless,
Jason O
Jason, are you sure about your measurement? In your image 0008.gif the cutout looks a whole lot closer to 120 degrees.
Cisco

Hi Cisco,

Good point, I meant to make that 150 but must have made it 120 by mistake. I'll fix it and repost the part.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300 · « **Reply #305 on:** June 23, 2006, 10:15:50 PM »

Quote from: Duranza on June 23, 2006, 09:04:19 PM

The stator arms will lock the rotor as it tries to fall down to ramp since the arm is bigger than the wheel. Other than that the drawings look great.

Hi Duranza,

In my model, the rotor disk is rotating clockwise so the stator arms are lifted upwards after passing the start of the ramp. I do see your point though but this could be solved simply by the timing of the lifting roller. If I recall, I think that torbay's ramp also had a sharp edge on it also. But if this becomes a problem, or someone would like a slope or something put on that, I'll be happy to modify it though.

God Bless,
Jason O

gn0stik · « **Reply #306 on:** June 25, 2006, 06:07:17 PM »

What Duranza pointed out is not true, the stator arms don't lift up at that point. They don't just automatically spring up when the ramp passes. They have to be pushed up by the roller, which comes a bit later.

Jdo300 · « **Reply #307 on:** June 25, 2006, 11:01:25 PM »

Quote from: gn0stik on June 25, 2006, 06:07:17 PM

What Duranza pointed out is not true, the stator arms don't lift up at that point. They don't just automatically spring up when the ramp passes. They have to be pushed up by the roller, which comes a bit later.

Right. Thats why I mentioned the positioning of the roller and timing as important. I tried to arrange the pieces in the model to be close to how they need to be to work, but I'm sure that the pieces are not all perfectly alligned to make it run in the pictures.

God Bless,
Jason O

jbh · « **Reply #308 on:** June 30, 2006, 12:08:29 PM »

so, after so many months no working model yet huh? Any genius there has thinked that the whole story is a hoax?

phil-uk · « **Reply #309 on:** June 30, 2006, 02:14:50 PM »

As far as I remember, even the inventor never showed a fully working model!

Jdo300 · « **Reply #310 on:** June 30, 2006, 06:34:19 PM »

Quote from: jbh on June 30, 2006, 12:08:29 PM

so, after so many months no working model yet huh? Any genius there has thinked that the whole story is a hoax?

It's not a hoax, even if you don't believe that Torbay has a working model, the principle itself is sound, as you can see from the many experiments people have been performing.

God Bless,
Jason O

Mica Busch · « **Reply #311 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:02:57 PM »

Quote from: Jdo300 on June 30, 2006, 06:34:19 PM

Quote from: jbh on June 30, 2006, 12:08:29 PM
so, after so many months no working model yet huh? Any genius there has thinked that the whole story is a hoax?

It's not a hoax, even if you don't believe that Torbay has a working model, the principle itself is sound, as you can see from the many experiments people have been performing.

God Bless,
Jason O

Actually, this process is mostly normal. The community as a whole are working out the bugs and misunderstandings, which is taking the longest time.
This step [the development efforts] is critical to any design effort, and if you ask industry leaders in design and production, they can affirm that the road to taking an idea from paper to production can take years! So despite the fact it has taken so long, we are making progress, albeit slower than any of us would like...
This time needs to be invested so that a unified replication effort can take place- individualized 'free' replication often sees changes in design which alter the idea so that it no longer matches the original, and yet all failures of this new creation are attributed to the original; In turn the idea is deemed a 'proven hoax' and not pursued. So we just need to bear through this painstaking process of trial, error, and design so that the original idea gets its fair chance in the 'court' of public opinion.

God gave us the earth, and all the wonders within it to discover and learn from... Invention takes time - otherwise we would have been flying 6,000 years ago!

kukulcangod · « **Reply #312 on:** July 01, 2006, 06:01:55 AM »

Well said Mica !!....I need strong magnets to continue ,I will never surrender, the principle is sound ....but that after the world soccer championship had passed and the 4 of july long weekeend!!,Enjoy.

gn0stik · « **Reply #313 on:** July 01, 2006, 05:49:31 PM »

Yes, there is a lot to make one skeptical of the Torbay device, but what we DO know, the glimmers of truth that we have seen with our own eyes outweigh that. As yet, nobody here has built one and followed torbay's specifications to the letter, there has always been one thing or the other thing that someone has taken license with. Whether it be the stator magnets, or something else.

Maran · « **Reply #314 on:** July 10, 2006, 06:49:23 PM »

sorry that i do no wright anymore but i'm getting a new place...
nobody see this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid%3d2079810740321169814

aparenttly is a torbay's video , but the machine looks like perenvder magnetic motor but vertical.

torbay had a incident the day before the invention patent was presented. maybe thats why we are seen alot of this maquines.

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