Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2  (Read 314660 times)

smarthousesys

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #210 on: May 31, 2006, 09:25:48 AM »
Hi  - Can you please give a web page or catalog number so I can see what these clips actually look like

konduct

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 215

hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8154
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #212 on: May 31, 2006, 11:34:23 AM »
Good idea Konduct.I might use it by the dozens in my stacked up version of the Torbay generator,

Thing that got me thinking is why I didn't hear anything about  Torbay here in New Jersey??!!!!

Now come on!  a month ago or so this hapened?? I watch the news in spanish and english, from there and here and... and nothing has been said , they keep talking about the gas prices as if we where still in the dark ages in contrast to the Torbay's discovery??, what's with that??

well  let's hope that everything is truth 'cause the site for the university is not mentioning anything at all at least 2 weaks ago  when I searched. I'll keep looking but this is weird to me I'm just a few minutes away from Manhattan and the bronx through the Washington bridge for that matter.

Now I wonder ...is there going to be any restrictions as per the used of this motor by independent constructors like us ???.Good Luck

Hi can you please call Bronx university in New York  and check out at which institute
Torbay was showing his motor ?
Maybe you can get us then a few names from the persons who where
involved in inviting Torbay to New York and get their email addresses, wo we can contact them.

Too bad also the guys from Argentina who have been here on the forum
are very quiet in this moment ? Didn?t they contact Torbay yet as they
wanted to do ?
Also Omnibus did never reply back again ?
Have they all been going "black project" ???

hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8154
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #213 on: May 31, 2006, 12:09:37 PM »
If you need some good magnets for your Torbay design,
here is a good source on Ebay:


Click here: strong cheap Magnets

gn0stik

  • Guest
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #214 on: May 31, 2006, 07:14:54 PM »
You could use those for stator mags too if you could find them with a different pole orientation.

gn0stik

  • Guest
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #215 on: May 31, 2006, 08:00:21 PM »
Hate to burst your bubble but the pole orientation on that is wrong for a torbay device. The magnetization has to be through the thickness to keep it in repulsion mode.

edgarmartinez

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #216 on: May 31, 2006, 08:51:20 PM »
Estimado Stefan Hartmann:

En primer lugar, me presento: Mi nombre es Edgar Martinez, soy Argentino residente en la Ciudad de Neuquen, lamentablemente a muchos kilometros de la Ciudad de Mar del Plata de donde es originario Walter Torbay. Pero, antes de vivir aqui en Neuquen, yo vivia en Mar del Plata, donde todavia tengo muchos amigos.
Estos ultimos meses he seguido con mucho interes todas las noticias referidas a el invento del Sr. Torbay, incluso las noticias y publicaciones en internet que desacreditan este gran invento. Pude encontrar muchos inventos similares a este, por ejemplo el "LUTEC 1000" originario de Australia. Pero ninguno tan cercano a mi, como para poder corroborar que realmente funciona, hasta que tuve noticias del "Transgenerador Magnetico" del Sr. Torbay.
He leido casi todo vuestro foro. Puedo ver el gran interes y esfuerzo que todos ustedes ponen para crear una replica de este invento; estoy sorprendido.
Las noticias sobre este invento no fueron tan bien recibidas en nuestro pais, como yo esperaba, la indiferencia y el excepticismo en cuanto a este tipo de descubrimientos es muy grande. Parece que a nadie le interesa!.

EN CUANTO A CONTACTAR DIRECTAMENTE AL SR. TORBAY:
Como yo les decia, tengo amigos en la ciudad de Mar del Plata que a mi pedido, se han preocupado por contactar al Sr. Torbay, sin ningun resultado positivo lamentablemente, hasta ahora.
La verdad es que Walter Torbay EXISTE, y tarde o temprano podr? comunicarme directamente con ?l; pero eso no garantiza que el quiera colaborar con vuestro proyecto.-

FINALMENTE:
Podria usted resumir, en que estado de avance se encuentran las reproducciones del modelo de Torbay que veo aqui??.-
Quedo a su disposicion, para lo que pueda ser util.

Atte.
Edgar R. Martinez
Neuquen, Argentina
martinezedgar@gmail.com - edgarmartinez@hotmail.com

Dear Stefan Hartmann:    At the first place, I appear: My name is Edgar Martinez, I am Argentine resident in the City of Neuquen, lamentably to many kilometers of the City of "Mar del Plata" of where he is original Walter Torbay. But, before living here in Neuquen, I was living in "Mar del Plata", where still I have many friends.   
These last months I have followed by far interest all referred news the invention of Mr. Torbay, even the news and publications in Internet that discredit this great invention. I could find many inventions similar to this, for example the ?LUTEC 1000? of Australia. But none so near to me, as to be able to corroborate that really it works, until I had the news of the ?Magnetic Transgenerador? of Mr. Torbay. 
I have read almost all your forum. I can see the great interest and effort that all you put to replicate this invention; I am surprised.   
The news about this invention were not so well received in our country as I hoped; the indifference and the incredulity as far as this type of discoveries is so much. It seems that to anybody interests to it.
   
AS FAR AS DIRECTLY CONTACTING MR. TORBAY:  Like I them say, have friends in the city of "Mar del Plata" who to my order, have worried to contact Mr. Torbay, without no positive result lamentably, until now (I do not lose the hopes).  The truth is that Walter Torbay EXISTS, and sooner or later I will be able to communicate directly with him; but that does not guarantee that it wants to collaborate with your project. -   
FINALLY:   Can you to summarize, in which been of advance are the reproductions of the model of Torbay which I see here. - 
I?m at your disposition for anything that you want.

Good bye
Edgar R. Martinez  Neuquen, Argentina   
martinezedgar@gmail.com - edgarmartinez@hotmail.com
« Last Edit: May 31, 2006, 09:14:56 PM by edgarmartinez »

gn0stik

  • Guest
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #217 on: May 31, 2006, 09:37:11 PM »
Edgar Martinez, Nice to hear from someone from argentina.

Cool name btw. Edgar Martinez (From Puerto Rico) Now in seattle, is my favorite baseball player.

Gn0stik

tak22

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 322
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #218 on: May 31, 2006, 10:22:40 PM »

Will these magnets work well? They are 54 OD x 46 id x 20 Long - ALL IN MILLIMETERS. 18 arc segments complete a circle. Grade N48. 9 with N Poles on the outer diameter and 9 with S Poles on the outer diameter.



http://cgi.ebay.com/Neodymium-MOTOR-Magnets-54-OD-x-46-id-x-20-L-mm-N48_W0QQitemZ6276931225QQcategoryZ413QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem




hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8154
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #219 on: May 31, 2006, 11:20:47 PM »
Hate to burst your bubble but the pole orientation on that is wrong for a torbay device. The magnetization has to be through the thickness to keep it in repulsion mode.

Yes, Eric the pole orientation is wrong !
Try to use disc shaped magnets where the polarisation is through the long diameter.

gn0stik

  • Guest
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #220 on: June 01, 2006, 01:01:22 AM »

Will these magnets work well? They are 54 OD x 46 id x 20 Long - ALL IN MILLIMETERS. 18 arc segments complete a circle. Grade N48. 9 with N Poles on the outer diameter and 9 with S Poles on the outer diameter.



http://cgi.ebay.com/Neodymium-MOTOR-Magnets-54-OD-x-46-id-x-20-L-mm-N48_W0QQitemZ6276931225QQcategoryZ413QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem





Those ones (well half of them anyway) are the right orientation, however they are too tall, There are some sort of like that, that are shorter and wider it takes only 12 to make a complete circle. The tallness is a factor because your stators would have to raise a lot more to become ineffective to the ones next to it.

Try these

http://cgi.ebay.com/Neodymium-MOTOR-Magnets-43-OD-x-39-id-x-5-L-mm-N45H_W0QQitemZ6276930396QQcategoryZ413QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem


Keep in mind, these are N45s, and you will want the same grade of neos for your stator magnets. If you can find some chevron shaped stator mags that would be best, so that you don't have to cut them. Remember torbay specifies that, the shape of the stator mags is CRITICAL, not something to be overlooked, so a simple block magnet will not work as well as using shaped mags, and avoiding cutting neos is advisable because they tend to shatter rather than cut.
   _______
 /________\   <---- like that.

Looking at torbay's machine his rotor mag has an angle cut into it as well, but I don't know if that is as critical. And there's a slight angle with the segmented mags anyway.

I'm a firm believer in EXACT duplication at first so that people don't say, "well I tried it and it didn't work" when in actuality, they took all kinds of artistic license on the thing and got nowhere. The smallest thing can be critical. Technically I would be looking for a longer half-moon shaped mag for the rotor that is all one piece, because those little breaks there DO change the magnetic field of the stator mag from what the one in the patent and pictures uses.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2006, 01:48:06 AM by gn0stik »

kukulcangod

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 107
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #221 on: June 01, 2006, 04:38:26 AM »
Hi All:
          Stefan I will try to contact them , tomorrow , I already visited a website of the university around there and nothing...... despite the fact that there's a remarkable section dedicated to emerging energy technologies,there was no aparent mention of Mr Torbay's work nomination, So yes must definitely I'll take it upon me  to find out more about it, we need to solve this mystery!!.
  Edgar "sigue tratando", keep trying , your efforts will be most appreciated in my case I can't wait for Mr Torbay telling us is truth simply because many of us have been waiting for this change for a very long time and even working on our own solution,we need proof ,but also I know that country policy is though around there , I'm from Mexico.....I know......it would take years for us to see this machine out in the wild......Despite of the brilliant minds and brave efforts to go ahead......

And even if the author of "myths lies and down right stupidity " or Al Gore is right about global warming I'm sure by the time we see this machine we will have warming upon us......I did mention that in one of the cities I know in Mexico,that the temperature has reached record numbers.....from 40 to 50 celsius......

 I see it as a way also to support his efforts weather he sees it or not that way, and when the time comes I would buy a motor from the source that will be unmistakably superior and reliable than anything we could make.....but truth being said by yourself as well, our countries are the biggest skepticals......

So here we go....Here my humble rendition of my efforts....for your amusement...Best of Luck.

smarthousesys

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #222 on: June 01, 2006, 08:04:04 AM »
www.freeenergynews.com has from the 'horses mouth' info on the Torbay NY thing.

gn0stik

  • Guest
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #223 on: June 01, 2006, 04:04:52 PM »
Don't we have the patent filing here? In that article it says nobody has been able to dig it up. Anyway, someone should edit that wiki and post a link to the patent. How are our builds coming along so far? I'm still gathering parts. I bet he said that he earned awards because of the negative press he's been getting down in Argentina, according to Edgar. I bet he didn't want to tell the press that it failed because of "blah, blah, blah" so he just said they were "astonished by the results". And that press buffoon spun it from there.

OK, so in that wiki, some dude said he spoke with the scientist torbay was working with at NY. Anyone else wanna call and get Torbay's contact info? I can't believe this guy didn't ask. We need video. Nobody here has seen a running model yet, and every model torbay has shown has been non-working. I'm kind of hesitant about moving on without video.


Cisco

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 37
Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #224 on: June 01, 2006, 06:16:24 PM »
Nobody here has seen a running model yet


Nobody except Danny Silverdragons, and he's not talking much anymore. Funny how they fade away . . .