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penguin hood · « **Reply #135 on:** May 10, 2006, 01:01:54 AM »

Hello
I write from Argentina. Only on this forum I knew about this Magnet Motor developed in my country.
There are posts asking for translations from spanish to english.
Well, my first language is spanish, I would be a volunteer.
I see the Babel Fish translations from some original document but... where are the originals? or the specific information necessary for you?
Greetings

Cisco · « **Reply #136 on:** May 10, 2006, 04:56:10 AM »

Hi Penguin Hood,

How encouraging to hear from someone in Argentina. Some of the original documents can be found in or referenced from the first thread (Part 1) of the Magnet Motor from Argentina.
Are you anywhere near Mar del Plata? Can you contact Walter Torbay for an update on his work? His residence address is given in the patent as Los Quebrachos 3042 in Mar del Plata.
If you?ve read the second thread (Part 2) on Torbay, you may recall that about 2 weeks ago we were teased by ?Luis?, another Argentinian who claimed that he is ?working? with Mr. Torbay, and that he is ?readdy to speak we any one, but muy Inglish is not very good. but I tried the gave alls information you need.? Naturally, his message stimulated a great deal of hope and response on our part, requesting more technical information and the video of Torbay?s motor that has disappeared from his website. But Luis has vanished as suddenly as he appeared, with no subsequent response. His email address is Id294@hotmail.com. Can you contact him for some follow-up information?
Thanks for any help you can dig up?and translate.

Cisco

penguin hood · « **Reply #137 on:** May 10, 2006, 05:41:30 PM »

Hi all,

In fact, from the Mar del Plata city to where I live are only 130 Km, however I will not vanish.
Also I came back to first thread but still I do not find any concrete or clean information source.

I'm sorry. If you read again on that spanish forum, exactly here:
http://www.hispaseti.org/foroWanaH/viewtopic.php?t=3314&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

The user "Edmon" wrote that have seen the video of Torbay and he did a criticism.
Then "ICYTY" (supposely "ICYTY" is Walter Torbay) wrote a simple technical explanation (in uppercase letters) about the operation principle of your motor, as defence.
And "LEPARTY", "Americo" and "Rody32" have written attacking skeptics while they encourage Torbay.

The forum administrators revealed the IP address from: "ICYTI", "LEPARTY", "Americo" and "Rody32". The IP's address are: 216.244.221.3, 216.244.221.2, 216.244.221.2 and 216.244.221.3 respectively.
That signify "ICYTI", "LEPARTY", "Americo", "Rody32" was the same user.
Using geolocation (http://www.dnsstuff.com) to find the city and country of an IP the result is:

IP: 216.244.221.3
Country: Argentina
City: Mar Del Plata, Buenos Aires

Note: The Forum is from Spain

Anyway, I will try to contact Walter Torbay. If Torbay says the truth then he not would have problem to give exact information to be able to replicate the motor.
Greetings.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #138 on:** May 10, 2006, 06:38:14 PM »

My contact, who wanted to meet Torbay in New York City last week, has not yet emailed again...
I wonder if the meeting did take place at all..

kukulcangod · « **Reply #139 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:16:45 PM »

Stefan:
How is it that Torvay was coming to NY?, I would've very easy try to set up and appointment myself with him cause I'm in Jersey ,let me know if I can be of any help about it.

Now I hope that he's able to give out more info, as I mentioned before , things change rapidly once the world is aware of the potential of this namely: "control" of the masses , then we will just sense the dosification of the release of this inventions to protect others interests or the ones seeking profits out of it ,and certainly Torvay would be the least to make a penny out of it if he doesn't play it rough around here......let's face it, as per contemporary mentality many won't accept something given freely they simply won't appreciated despite of the fact of the obvious benefit .....of course that is bad psicology imbeded by our goverments and people just got used to it , that doesn't affect us here in this foum I hope... then the inventor subemerges himself into obscurity like before. It happened to Tucker (movie "Tucker the man and his dream") the inventor of the concept of the car without radiator...it was stoped by the humungus car corporations......Regards.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #140 on:** May 10, 2006, 09:17:12 PM »

Torbay had a meeting with some people from Bronx university in New York about 3 weeks ago,
from this meeting were also the 2 pics I posted.
The problem was, that all was very bad organized and one guy from our forum just was lucky to
catch and meet Torbay.
Unfortunately Torbay did not have his own motor with him,
but only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and
he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run...

Why Torbay did not bring his own motor with him is not known
until now to me... maybe politics or fear for the motor being stolen ??

The guy who met him emailed me, that the new meeting was supposed
to be last week, but he has not emailed back since then, so I don?t know, what
is going on in this moment..

Regards, Stefan.

kukulcangod · « **Reply #141 on:** May 11, 2006, 07:11:23 AM »

Thank you for keeping us posted Stefan, Magnets wrong ? how bad he could've set them up? , well hopefully we will get it right, bye

jbh · « **Reply #142 on:** May 11, 2006, 12:44:46 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 10, 2006, 09:17:12 PM

...only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and
he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run...

Why Torbay did not bring his own motor with him is not known
until now to me... maybe politics or fear for the motor being stolen ??

politics?

?

fear for the motor being stolen? he applied for a patent, why should he care if the motor is stolen, besides someone finding something that should not be there... it makes me wonder why the replication from someone did not work...

Cisco · « **Reply #143 on:** May 11, 2006, 07:54:44 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 10, 2006, 09:17:12 PM

Torbay had a meeting with some people from Bronx university in New York about 3 weeks ago,
from this meeting were also the 2 pics I posted.
The problem was, that all was very bad organized and one guy from our forum just was lucky to
catch and meet Torbay.
Unfortunately Torbay did not have his own motor with him,
but only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and
he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run...

Why Torbay did not bring his own motor with him is not known
until now to me... maybe politics or fear for the motor being stolen ??

The guy who met him emailed me, that the new meeting was supposed
to be last week, but he has not emailed back since then, so I don?t know, what
is going on in this moment..

Regards, Stefan.

Regarding these latest disclosures about Torbay coming to Bronx University, I have a few questions and observations which I hope won't be taken as unduly suspicious.
First, why has the person who met him there been reluctant to post the news directly on this forum, so that we may explore more exactly and directly what he learned there?
Concerning the 2 pics Stefan posted on April 23 from that meeting in New York:
We are told that "Unfortunately Torbay did not have his own motor with him,
but only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run..." The motor shown in those two pictures bears an uncanny and very close resemblance to Torbay's own motor pictured in one of Stefan's previous posts over a month earlier on March 21 (Magnet Motor from Argentina, part 1, page 11). There are slight differences: the base is deeper on the earlier pictures, and the bottoms of the vertical side support straps are exposed. Other than that, the plexiglass model is virtually the same, including the large plastic gear on top driving the small generator off to one side.
It seems unlikely if not inconsistent that the North American who allegedly built the non-functioning replication would be so exacting in most respects of design, yet fail in the most critical areas: magnetic components and performance.
After close examination of the two sets of pictures, I question whether they are not in fact of the same model. But, we are told, "Torbay did not have his own motor with him."
If all the pictures are of the same model, then the reports don't add up.
Where is Luis when we need him?
"New meeting"? Is Torbay still in New York?
Why does he pander to the Bronx, yet remain so elusive with us?
Cisco

hartiberlin · « **Reply #144 on:** May 12, 2006, 06:52:37 PM »

Well, you are right, the prototype Torbay had in his hand looks exactly
like the one he had at his home and I also really wonder, what is going on there.
As I have not reached and he is not responding to emails anymore, the member
"Omnibus" from our forum, who was the one meeting Torbay at Bronx university,
he told me, that it was not Torbay?s motor, but he wanted not to go into details.
He had recorded a 2 hours long tape with Torbay, as he met him there,
but I don?t know further details...
Too bad, that Omnibus is not answering anymore...

Maran · « **Reply #145 on:** May 13, 2006, 03:34:09 AM »

hi everyone: nobody think that he can feel a little afreid of you?

REPLICATE HIS DESIGN, $:-\$ I CAN MAKE BETTER, :'(I NEED ONLY A FLUORESCENT MICROWAVE AND MY LAPTOP,

a little harsh don't you think so.......only my 2 cents.

kukulcangod · « **Reply #146 on:** May 13, 2006, 07:38:30 PM »

:PWell I finally got to see the video from Nastrand,I had to install win2000 ,with my old system it wouldn't play the divx format, certainly I feel something thumbling in my chest,when I saw it ....the possiblities....... and for what I see is very promising, I understand the problem of designning that flywheel it has to put down the magnets at the right moment ,right now, that's what I have to determined in my model,.....I've been distracted cause I've found another way to produce electricity for warm weather..but anyways what' your progress by now??,Regards.

toorik · « **Reply #147 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:53:49 PM »

Nastrand, Share the video!!!

SHARE SHARE SHARE

toorik

Nastrand2000 · « **Reply #148 on:** May 14, 2006, 04:26:49 AM »

The video is on page 20 of this forum "Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2". I am busy bulding the next motor with 72 stator arms using small neos. The rotor will have a diameter of less then 12 inches. Still working out all the details...it will be done soon tho. I will post a new video soon.

Jason Pohl

silverdragonrs · « **Reply #149 on:** May 15, 2006, 11:59:25 AM »

I have designed a few improvements that everyone may wish to use in their prototypes... i am waiting on a femm sim to back up my theories.. sorry i am not going to post it till then... but on another note.. i have built a functional prototype. it still has issues wich is why i designed these improvements.. the motor as i built it spins without stopping but it is so week that i can stop it with two fingers and its speed is less that one rps... i was using week magnets and heavy materials and poor craft skills... my next model since i now know that it works will be done a little more maticulously. sorry to tease you this way. I hope it wont take long to get the femm back..

i know you will all want video so as soon as i get some money saved up ill go get a camera that works. till next time... cya, danny

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