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mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #405 on: September 28, 2006, 08:35:51 PM »
Oh I should also mention, and this is referring to my previous post which is above the pics, After thinking about it, I'm going to stick with current design.

Rgds,

Mrd

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Dingus Mungus

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #406 on: September 28, 2006, 09:11:10 PM »
Mrd,

Thanks again for the rolling updates. I sit waiting in anticipation for your next update.

~Dingus

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #407 on: September 28, 2006, 10:56:55 PM »
Mrd,
Your creativity is fascinating, I like it. ;)
This is the way where things can possibly work. Before you, I didn't trust in the original design. But now I think you're on the right track, and it can be done. Please, do not give up before your design isn't fully completed!

Well done, so far... Be the magnets with you!  :D

Thanks,
Greg

mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #408 on: September 29, 2006, 10:58:29 AM »
Thanks Guys

Mrd        ;)

Craigy

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #409 on: September 30, 2006, 12:43:04 AM »
Hi Everybody!

It took a long time but i finally managed to read the whole thread. It seems we have had a lot of disapointments along the way. very frustrating.

Anyway, now Mrd is posting pic's it certanly is more interesting. And in the same vein, i have diecided to pick up my screwdriver and have a go as well. I will post pics just as mrd has. Since pics like this help everybody, regardless of whether it works or not, the construction techniques used may well inspire other people to have a go.

With mrd's ramps in mind, i have modified my original idea for the construction of the lifters. i have made them easy to modify in the event that mrd has success with his ramps.

my style of construction is similar to mrd's, which i belive is what we want, a desgin that anybody with a kitchin table and screwdriver can replicate. i willpost a few pics in a couple of days, i am busy making the components at present out of loads of brass terminal block.

Keep tunned in!

Craigy

mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #410 on: September 30, 2006, 02:10:45 PM »
Hi Craigy,

Thanks man.

I do believe that this will work, I'll confirm this to you, see as I pushed down each arm the rotor magnet would spin round, so in effect what we need to study and get right, is to let a mechanical version of your hand do the work.

The only things which may fail me is the springs, failing this, I will have to make a top disc which will keep the arms down and raise only the ones that need to be raised. Each week I hit this with enthusiasm, At a point last week though I was thinking maybe the perm magnet motor thing should be abandoned, and I should purse something like steven marks torroidal transformer, but I decided I would do this when ive exhausted myself on this project.

What makes this believable to me is that you need to move a magnetic field or collapse it so you dont have lockup, once this is acheived , you will have it running. When I saw torbays video at first, I thought wow, its only the magnets doing the work, but this is not the case.
After seeing someones 3d graphics and the actual unit pics which show it pulled apart, then I started to understand abit more.

It's only when i built mine, which of course is not finished yet, Did I start to understand even more, i.e timing the magnetic move so the rotor magnet would flip to the next spot. The top disk and the roller on the side of the rotor are the key to the whole operation, the magnets are just being manipulated, if you like by the mechanical motion.

I have other committements which are of everyday life, but I made a promise to myself, that once a week I'll dedicate some of my short human life time to try and better understand that there is more out there that needs to be explored. For awhile now I have been interested in free energy, it's just something that has captivated me and given me focus in life.

My next installement will be the strike plates, I will be making these longer as already mentioned, I can see as I do it with my hand where it should be activating, and currently it falls short of the mark.

The only way we truly are going to push forward is to build and get our hands dirty, and observe what we create, don't be discouraged and dissapointed if first it doesnt work, remember most of our techinology today has arrived to us by mistake or by sheer persiverance.
And remember another thing, don't burn yourself out, take timeout and think about your next move, patience is a virtue.

bye for now

Mrd


Dingus Mungus

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #411 on: September 30, 2006, 07:33:23 PM »
MRD What is your location?
Europe? US?

mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #412 on: October 01, 2006, 06:55:54 AM »
Hi Dingus,

Australia.

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Mrd

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #413 on: October 01, 2006, 08:20:52 AM »
Hi Dingus,

Australia.

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Mrd

Damn...

I am quite excited about your work.
Not fly to Australia excited, but excited none the less...

I believe with the right mechanical accuation of the stator arms your device will work.
If I were you I would do some research on taking full advantage of those fulcrums, and
take all exact measurements of dimensions and weights of each component and run some
physics simulations in a simulator like solidworks.

Your already very close now its all about great mechanic timing and finesse.

GOOD LUCK!

I'm cheering for ya...

mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #414 on: October 01, 2006, 10:09:17 AM »
Hi Dingus,

Thanks.

I was working on it today, and have discovered that instead of using a wheel and strike plates, I have done away with it alltogether and put a magnet ontop of the arm which pulls the stator arms up, this works even better, I tried using magnets to push the others down, but this would be better done mechanically with inert components, I'm having success as I go along, I'll make short video tonight to show you how the rotor turns as the magnet which I have taped pulls the stator magnets up.

experiment...experiment ....experiment, I believe people like Nikola Teslae were doers, and thats why he like some others had success.

I'm finding new ways, even better ways to do things, it takes time, but once you hit it, its all worth it.

Kind Regards

Mrd

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mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #415 on: October 01, 2006, 11:28:20 AM »
Hi Guys,

I've uploaded video, this will give you an idea of how it works.

Kind Regards,

Mrd

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supersam

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #416 on: October 01, 2006, 04:00:53 PM »
MRD,

FACINATING VIDEO!!!!! HOW MUCH LONGER TILL YOU GET ALL THE WHEELS AND RAMPS FINISHED?  I THINK IF I WERE YOU I'D HAVE TP QUIT MY JOB AND WORK ON THIS 24 HOURS A DAY TILL I GOT FINISHED. I DON'T THINK I COULD THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.  HECK I GUESS I ALREADY HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

LOL
SAM

mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #417 on: October 01, 2006, 04:20:26 PM »
Hi Sam,

I'm thinking about how to best build the top ramp disc,(like what material id be using, and config). I can't say for sure when ill be finished, because i want to get it to a state of a self runner. Im hoping though at the latest about next two weeks.

I know what you mean, I wish I could quit my mundane job, and do this free energy stuff for a living, there's nothing more satisfying in building something, that defies all logic, or for that reason goes against principles learnt at school. Theres stuff that they don't teach you at school.

This site is awesome because it brings people together, with ideas. As I mentioned before, experimenting like a kid helps, if you decide it wont work before you begin, then youve just shot yourself in the foot.

I'll keep you guys posted on my progress.

May the magnet force be with me and All of you too......lol

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Craigy

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #418 on: October 01, 2006, 08:57:45 PM »
Great stuff Mrd!

The video is great, i a quite a long way behind you but i have started the metal bashing and i am a week away from getting to the twiddle mode where i can experiment in depth with you. I like the magnet asist idea and like your self i have been thinking about construction of the top hat ramp.

If we copy the original design i thought that perhaps the ramp could be made using wood. Two circles, one complete the other has a cutout where the ramp is. The 2 are glued together and the ramp formed using wood filler, or fibre glass resin. With the resin, you would only need to hold the wheel at an angle and pour the resin into the ramp space (cardboard around the edge to keep profile) , thus the resin would settle to the horizontal forming a nice ramp. In my mind at least!

Or. levers..since you have the magnets on a seesaw, perhaps you could hav another arm that would push the the cold end up. ( cold end because no magnet forces should be there). This would mean a long arm, that would have to roll right around the outside. (The lever it pushes up could also be double in length to half the force required to move it). I assume that we would get more mecanical advantage to help us put the magnets down again.

Anyway, here is a photo of my effort so far, i still have 7 brackets to make and i need to replace all of the screws in the brass terminal blocks for ones of brass. They will hold my neo's. This is stuff i had lying around, so may change the magnets later on but it will do to start with. i have tried to make it as easy as possible to modify, all magnet distances are very easy to adjust and the magnets easy to change, if i need to change them later


May the Force be with you..

Err i can't get my images to up load what am i doing wrong?



mrd10

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #419 on: October 02, 2006, 01:55:50 AM »
Hi Craig,

Thanks for the tips, I was speaking to a mate last night who actually mentioned the same with the cutouts, (Circle) whatever I go with, it has to be frictionless as possible, I like your idea of pushing the other end of the levers, I'll explore this option. I can probably use the same arm as the magnet assist is on. This option will then do away with the top disc idea, good one......thanks.

Take your time, It's a learning excercise, It will come to being, with at least both of us helping each other out it will be better. I'm glad youve started.

The files may not upload, if the server is down, Just a dumb question, make sure your a member, perhaps it won't let you if your not.

Cheers,

Mrd

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