Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2 (Read 314689 times)

morpheous1777 · « **Reply #390 on:** September 17, 2006, 10:01:33 PM »

I thought it looked similar, horseshoe shaped ring of magnets, circular magnet, etc...
but i just read the replication attempt, so that's another one down :'(
has anyone actually got a replication of torbays device workin yet ??

mrd10 · « **Reply #391 on:** September 18, 2006, 03:16:39 PM »

Hello All,

I have been hard at it with Torbays Replication, here you can see that im almost finished.
I should have it done by next week and run a test to see if it works.

From just placing my hand on the disk with a magnet on it, the other magnets do flip up, and it seems to want to move, again i'll have to wait till I get the magnets on the rotor.

The pics show the rotor, and without.
The rotor will be level with the magnets, I just put it there to show how it would look.

Mrd

Jdo300 · « **Reply #392 on:** September 18, 2006, 03:38:23 PM »

Hey Mrd,

Looks great! Keep up the good work :-)

God Bless,
Jason O

mrd10 · « **Reply #393 on:** September 18, 2006, 03:47:11 PM »

Thanks Jason, When I'm done and hopefully get it working, ill post a video.

Until then take care.

Cheers,

Mrd

hartiberlin · « **Reply #394 on:** September 18, 2006, 04:22:34 PM »

Great work MRD,
looking forward to your tests.
Keep the videos coming.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

Gregory · « **Reply #395 on:** September 18, 2006, 07:32:12 PM »

Nice device Mrd!

Please post a video, it will be useful in every case.

Wish you success,
Greg

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #396 on:** September 18, 2006, 10:15:40 PM »

Looks great. I can hardly wait to see the results. Regardless the results, it's valuable research!

Paul Lowrance

mrd10 · « **Reply #397 on:** September 18, 2006, 11:37:37 PM »

Thanks Guys,

I can't wait myself. With other commitments, I have to wait.
It takes me about 5 to 6 hours of thought and rework at times to
get it to the stage you want. (This is one night a week) It really goes with that saying, 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration.
I sympathize with inventors everywhere, as I understand how it must take them years to get there
ideas onto working model. And at times they might get completely unexpected results, as what they wanted might spawn something different alltogether = accidental find.....lol

Anyway I'll keep you guys posted.

Thanks Again for all your encouraging comments.

Cheers,

Dom

stonrman401 · « **Reply #398 on:** September 20, 2006, 07:37:22 AM »

If you do happen to get this working, or if ANYONE happens to get a permanent motor/movement without input, or input with greater output (mainly a magnet motor or working free energy device) I'd be more than willing to take every specific size, shape and part of the device and model it out in 3d studio max (some of my work is here: http://visualorgasmness.50megs.com/pmm/ ) As you can see I can put a lot of things I imagine into 3d and am familliar with the program (Im now working on cars and humans, a free energy device would be basic shapes, meaning very easy to model)

I'm just waiting for the day where someone, ANYONE figures it out and wishes for a step by step how to with a parts list for the world to replicate. I'd be more than willing to make a 3d movie of the thing being built, in my opinion, it would be quite an honor to make such a video, and you bet your ass, with all the shifty shit our government does I would NOT want my name on it. I would just want to get the parts, get the specific instructions (Free Energy for Dummies, anyone?

) and get the video and tutorial uploaded for the world to see. Then work on my own device as well.

I have seen some of you on this forum say you have made a working device. Im offering you the chance to show people this from every angle, clearer than any conventional camera, and all you need is the desire to share this with the world for free, and to supply me with the correct sizes and geometry of all parts. 3d studio can do the rest. Are you up for the challenge or would you rather "shelf" it and let the world go to hell?

Screw patents, screw money. I'm not that scientific, but I love modelling in 3d. And I'd be more than willing to help someone interested in this same goal, of revealing the "secret" for all the world to see. Email me if you think you like my idea and think I could model a working device that you could explain: stonrman401@gmail.com

If you at least give me a general look at things, I could tell you whether or not I could do it (I probably can model anything you can dream of, it just might take some time)

Remember, 3d studio can make every angle in pictures, and in video. Every video game character or 3d animated character youve seen can be done in 3d studio. A free energy device, could be a cinch, provided accurate measurements, angles, and all information completely fail proof and correct... email me if you think you got what it takes!

And Im looking forward to the video release of this! It looks like you did some hard work, man. Good luck.

mrd10 · « **Reply #399 on:** September 26, 2006, 04:54:48 PM »

Hi Everyone,

I have some good news, this I believe does truly work, I found out tonight, by doing some experimenting, that the magnets are only half the story, the rest is the mechanics. You need to get this right for this motor/generator to work. I've done some configurations on the rotor, and found that the one in the pic seems to work quite well.

How this works is as the first magnet on the rotor, (I'm referring to the one closest to the armatures, approaches the armature magnet, it needs to be lifted up in advance, while the one behind needs to be forced down, thats why torbay has that disc ontop, which pushes the magnets back down. You can see in his video that he has a roller which is slightly infront of the rotor magnet, this forces the issue for the armature magnet to lift. Anyway I found this out while playing with the one i built. All I need to do know is finish the mechanics, so to lift the armature magnet in advance, in effect its like a wave, that never rests.

The springs in my unit should push the armature magnets down suffice to say i did this advance bit with my hand and the rotor spun all the way. even if i get a slow rotation i know im on the right track, It just needs that roller to push up in advance, its all to do with timing.

Ive posted latest pic, when i get the roller worked out, and hopefully ill have rotation and a nice video pic coming.

Cheers,

Mrd

mrd10 · « **Reply #400 on:** September 27, 2006, 04:01:36 PM »

Hi Everyone,

I'm still working on the mechanism, this is the critical part, I have to make some modifications to my setup.
Will keep you all posted on my progress.

Never give up, Learn from what you see.

bye for now

Mrd

Gregory · « **Reply #401 on:** September 27, 2006, 10:26:58 PM »

Quote from: mrd10 on September 26, 2006, 04:54:48 PM

I found out tonight, by doing some experimenting, that the magnets are only half the story, the rest is the mechanics. You need to get this right for this motor/generator to work.

Good observation, I totally agree. The machanics as least as important as the magnets themselves. Without the correct mechanics things usually don't work.

Wish you good work!

Gregory

mrd10 · « **Reply #402 on:** September 28, 2006, 02:20:51 PM »

Hi Again All,

I've built a permanent magnet motor before and the materials I used for that are being used for this project. If your interested check out stephen kundel on google.

Regarding Torbays setup, Its definitely to do with mechanics, basically you want one armature in front to flip up and the armature behind to flip back down as to push the rotor magnet to the next point, and thats what i believe torbay has acheived.

I need to rebuild my mechanism, as i want to do it his way, rather than what Ive done in the following pics, I noticed that my alum flaps were to short therefore it wasnt activating the magnet armatur at the front at the correct time, rather than pursue this avenue, which would probably work, i chose to change it alltogether.

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #403 on:** September 28, 2006, 04:42:18 PM »

!!!WOW!!!

I am quite impressed by your latest addition to the design. When will a video be availible for us to see the devices current progress and abilities? How far does it turn? Does the wheel arm have any problems lifting the stator magnets? If so I believe by extending the strike plates out further from the fulcrum will help greatly but you must make sure the short side of the stator lifting lever is always hevier then the strike plate end. Your design and rapid prototyping is breath taking. You appear to be very close now...

~Dingus

mrd10 · « **Reply #404 on:** September 28, 2006, 08:32:57 PM »

Hi Dingus,

give me just a little more time, i shouldn't be too far off. It's only been 3 to 4 weeks, one night a week that Ive been building this.

The rotor wheel arm pushes them down quite easily, with almost no friction, as long as the wheel on the end is running freely. And also what makes them easier to manipulate is because of the ramping up/down on the aluminium plates, youll notice this in the current pics.
What I have in mind there is to extend the ramp from both side, but bend it to where I want it to trigger and not to trigger the armature magnets.
This I believe will either make this thing work or not. On another note the springs underneath which sorry i removed in current pics, im hoping will be enough to push the ones behind back down, If that doesnt work then ill have to make a top disc like in torbays model, Anyway further testing to reveal this soon.

Its been some thinking behind what i'm doing, thats why it takes awhile. Again the strike plates need to be changed, Ive come up with an idea, which will make em in effect longer and therefore should be easier to adjust.

As i'm progressing, I find that changes are necessary, because current design isnt adequate to make it a self runner, Even at one stage there I thought of giving up, but something tells me to push on, and not to give up that easily, really this is a proof of concept design, so i'm going to make every attempt to finish it, even if it takes me some months to do it. Thanks to Walter, he has done something which if works like i think it does has managed a remarkable feat of engineering.

Be assured that I will send a video on my next incarnation.....lol
Sorry if I'm all over the place, its 4 in the morning and I couldn't sleep.

Cheers,

Mrd

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