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Maran

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #345 on: July 23, 2006, 06:31:28 PM »
SORRY TO TELL BUT I keep saying that this group will not go to any place, we look like a group of dog, every body for himself.  If we can organisate we will succede. I don't know if you known but argentinians made a lot of inventions, and that country is not USA o Germany, it's argentina, a 3rd world country; somebody known why??? only because we don't have a lot to work with (material, money, equipment, etc).
I'm personally sure that this video probe the principle it's right!!!!! but I'm also sure that in the future somebody, maybe we, will be able to maximase the energy that this type of device will be able to generate.

If we device in groups we can reduce time and money in this analisis, one group can make the small generator with cd, because it's cheap and ease the parts can be cut with a knife or cessors.
REMEMBER THAT MAY NOT BE USE A LOT OF TOOLS. THINK INVENTIVELY

GOOD BLESS YOU ALL

mark australia

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #346 on: July 24, 2006, 12:51:35 AM »
The thing that worries me with this device is it should work. However I feel it failed to work in NY for two reasons.

1. The battery went flat (I know thats synical but I have humor)
2. Like all the devices of this nature before, the magnets lost their power.

I am sure someone will replicate it, but the real test is how long it can opperate under load before the magnets give in.

Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #347 on: July 24, 2006, 03:12:09 AM »
cesarc, the .avi file downloaded from the Google video is some strange kind of .avi and cannot be imported into the VirtualDub. I tried severl ways of "repairing" it (GVideoFix, Riva FLV Encoder, SUPER, Total Video Converter etc.) but noting worked. Any ideas?

Liberty

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #348 on: July 24, 2006, 07:20:15 AM »
The thing that worries me with this device is it should work. However I feel it failed to work in NY for two reasons.

1. The battery went flat (I know thats synical but I have humor)
2. Like all the devices of this nature before, the magnets lost their power.

I am sure someone will replicate it, but the real test is how long it can opperate under load before the magnets give in.

Kind Regards
Mark

I wonder if all of those devices that had problems with the magnets 'giving out' had this in common:  That they had at least some magnets crashing into (instead of away from) a repelling magnetic field, which may have stressed the domain within the magnet?  I would guess that designs of magnetic motors that have repelling fields that strongly clash, or that occur extremely close, causing deep repelling forces to the opposing magnet, will have magnet weakness eventually.

Liberty

cesarc

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #349 on: July 24, 2006, 02:35:58 PM »
Hi crazykevin,
I saw the video with  vlc media player that is free. Download it from http://www.videolan.org
I don't know if you need a codec too.
Try with vlc, if it doesn't work try installing different codecs.
Thanks.

Jdo300

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #350 on: July 24, 2006, 06:40:14 PM »
The thing that worries me with this device is it should work. However I feel it failed to work in NY for two reasons.

1. The battery went flat (I know thats synical but I have humor)
2. Like all the devices of this nature before, the magnets lost their power.

I am sure someone will replicate it, but the real test is how long it can opperate under load before the magnets give in.

Kind Regards
Mark

Hi Mark,

Omnibus, the professor who saw the non-working model of the Torbay motor clearly stated why the model didn't run. According to his account of what Torbay said, that particular model was created by someone here in the United States and they magnetized the magnets in the stators in the wrong direction so that the north pole was on the top side instead of the side facing the rotor disk.

As for the repelling fields running down, I personally believe that this won't be an issue as long as you don't stress the fields (a.k.a bucking repelling fields together hard). If you are using smooth transitions from one repelling field to the other as in the Torbay design, then the stresses will be much, much less. Torbay did claim that he had a model that has been running for over a year now since he filed for his patent back in 2004. Now, I can't back that claim since I haven't seen it personally which I why I am trying to get a strong replication effort together to try this out. We can talk about how it can and can't work until the cows come home but we will never know for sure until we try it for ourselves.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #351 on: July 24, 2006, 06:55:23 PM »
Hi crazykevin,
I saw the video with  vlc media player that is free. Download it from http://www.videolan.org
I don't know if you need a codec too.
Try with vlc, if it doesn't work try installing different codecs.
Thanks.


Hi, I have downloaded and converted the Torbay video to avi. I'll e-mail it to Stefan and have him post it here.

God bless,
Jason O

kukulcangod

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #352 on: July 25, 2006, 05:53:33 AM »
Keep up the good work guys , you will be remembered as well as one of the few good people helping to develop something really good,making history in the process, making something that is not going to be forgotten, this is one of the few if not the only one self aware forums making a real effort towards the goal of making our individual lives better, reasuring our very survival,bringing individual happiness and prosperity.Now, the only thing I'm really curious about is about who is going to be the first in achieving a working model, after Walter Dario Torbay whom by the way sounds very sincere in his argentinian accent, about his invention ,I think we should be thankful for leting this invention be somehow available, at least in his website that's the idea.........I wouldn't worry about him going black project after all he has to benefit somehow ,don't you think??, everybody wants to rule the world , again I think truly we all can rule the world being truly free of dependecies from huge selfish interests and this is the first step.
 Jdo3000 excuse me please if I don't remember exactly how you would like us to cooperate o please refer me to the posting were you explain how, Personally I appreciated what you have done taking the time of making your designs in Cad and so forth, I don't have a design program but I'll be glad to be a part of a combined effort to be one of the few making a real difference ,and to achieve faster results and to prevent that this invention ends in the pits of the forgotten files. I'm sure everybody appreciates the many invidividual benefits this type of technology offers,we could be independent but still able to fairly exchange our specialized services with each other,as costs of freight for food become cheaper,or because we will be  able to go anywhere you want with an on demand hydrogen producer car, or a private VTOL airplane,achieving 300mph not worrying about energy comsumption, or being able to live selfsustained in any part of the world, in a huge house not worrying about energy production or to purify water and air, heat or air conditioner,to power communication stations of unlimited range and the best of all being able to experiment with high energy and exotic technologies..........economy?? don't worry it would adapt itself, on that one I whish someone could give suggestions.........for one I would prefer to buy land and produce food from the dessert, permanently irrigated , and grow cattle as well, a more natural way , or to process garbage for profit ,..........I think the possibilities are endless if we achieve freedom for each single man on earth, and abolishing the power of a few, Best of lucks.

mark australia

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #353 on: July 26, 2006, 11:48:22 PM »
Your ideals and sentiments reflect many others here,
However the Torbay device is a dead duck at this stage.
He may appear sincere but has been very liberal with the truth when reporting to his homeland media.
I do not wish to dampen anyones ideals, but the video raises more questions than it answers. Why didnt it work in NY if its such a simple device.
It is obvious the work output is know where near what is claimed possible.
I wont be posting again on this device until there has been an independent validation of it working.
Kind regards
Mark

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #354 on: July 27, 2006, 04:24:07 AM »
hello i am martin from argentine, and this motor is very good. i still research the motor.

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #355 on: July 27, 2006, 04:44:20 AM »
Hi Martin,
have you seen the motor running personally ?
Did you meet Torbay and had a look at the motor ?

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #356 on: July 27, 2006, 09:57:53 AM »
Hi Stefan
I don?t see personally the motor, i live in other city, i call to the phone number and the line is death, maybe now the phone number is other, i don?t know.
sory for my english is not good  ;D. Thank you.

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #357 on: July 27, 2006, 10:14:12 AM »
Hi El_moncholo,
can you please drive by atthe weekend to Torbay?s address
and ask him please to show you his motor and take a videocamera
with you and film it ?
Would be great, if you could post a few videos
or at least a few pictures and see the machine live
for yourself and verify it...
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

Dellemann

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #358 on: July 27, 2006, 10:24:46 AM »
Hello,

in the picture you can see the wheel (red) of the rotor and the beginning and end of the ramp (blue).
Are the placement right ???

thanks,
Mani


TechMac

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #359 on: July 27, 2006, 08:05:03 PM »
That appears to be a different version of the Argentine motor than what I have seen in the video. It seems in your version you would use much friction to hold all of those blocks in the different positions other than toggled up or down. The less contact of physical surfaces the more power out is available.

To some other posters I would say, Even if the Torbay motor was a weakly running one, any self-runner has a coefficient of power in to power out of infinity.