Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

Author Topic: made this with phun - free energy?  (Read 16886 times)

FreeEnergy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2014
    • The Freedom Cell Network
made this with phun - free energy?
« on: May 10, 2010, 09:49:54 PM »
have a small motor spin a weight attached to a lever and this causes leverage work to a load (a bigger motor?).

in this simulation the spring is a "load".

would the load have sufficient energy to feed the small motor? would this machine self run?

i have attached the phun file to this post inside a zip file, enjoy.
Logged

DeepCut

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 640
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 11:16:22 PM »
Hey thanks FreeEnergy, i'd never heard of Phun before it's great !


Gary.
Logged

Rapadura

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 357
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 11:37:15 PM »
Phun is fun!

I liked the simulation, but the problem is that we can't measure the energy spent by the motor...
Logged

Rapadura

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 357
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 11:40:49 PM »
This simulation raises one more time the question: is it possible to use a lever to "leverage" energy?

Is there a way to do this?
Logged

infringer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 800
    • mopowah
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 02:54:23 AM »
my take on a lever after going through the whole lever thing with the sword of god and Archer...

I believe no matter what you do the same amount of work a lever works like a pulley or gear on your bike....

You still do the same amount of work it just makes the work easier lets say to compress a spring it takes 1 inch but a 5lbs of force with your bare hands you use a lever to compress the same spring it takes only 1lb of force well I will be damned but guess what you are no longer going 1" to do this instead you are moving 5" with 1lb of force was there really any net gain?
Logged

Rapadura

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 357
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 05:29:37 AM »
Okay, now it's my time!!

I just discovered a bug on Phun (or is it a free energy device?  :o)

Here is the link to download the .PHZ file:

http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/shareID7120139/fileID517104612/leveraged_pendulum.phz

(leveraged_pendulum.phz)

I couldn't upload the file to this thread here at Overunity.com because it's larger than 300 kb.

Fell free to download the file and test it with your version of Phun on your computer.

I will tell you what is happening on my computer:

When I press the "Play" button, my "leveraged pendulum" is static...

Then, I use the "rotate" tool of Phun to rotate the 11 kg steel ball at the lower end of the pendulum, I rotate it about 80 degrees (more than 70 degress, less than 90 degrees). Then, I let the ball fall freely, and the pendulum, as we should expect, starts to swing...

BUT... A strange thing happens: instead of going "less high" at each swing, the ball starts to go higher at each swing!! Then, I become bored of seeing the ball swing and I accelerate the "simulation speed" to 10x. The ball still going higher at each swing, until a moment when it simple... makes a complete rotation!!!! And another complete rotation, and another, and another... And it starts to accelerate!!! And it rotates faster and faster, never stopping!!!

It is probably a bug on Phun algoritm, but, let we be optimists: it could be a perpetuum mobile!  ;D

Please, run this simulation on your computers and tell me if you are getting equal results...
Logged

Rapadura

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 357
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 05:44:17 AM »
I had split the file in two using WinRar.

You can download bellow the two parts (leveraged_pendulum.part1.rar  and  leveraged_pendulum.part2.rar) and mount the file using WinRar.

Please try it with your computer!

I need to know if it happening just on my computer, or if it is a bug of Phun algoritm (or a true perpetuum mobile  ???)
Logged

Rapadura

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 357
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 06:22:22 AM »
I posted a video on YouTube of the simulation running on my computer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyKRF6SH3eU
Logged

FreeEnergy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2014
    • The Freedom Cell Network
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 07:17:26 AM »
thanks for the response guys.
now the only thing left is to try this in real life.
maybe someone can build this to test it out.

@rapadura i think it's only your computer because nothing is happening on my side, the pendulum just sits there and barely moves back and forth.
Logged

FreeEnergy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2014
    • The Freedom Cell Network
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 10:02:49 AM »
LOOK AT THIS!

1 weak motor vs 2 strong motors! wow some interesting results here.

weak motor's strength is 100 Nm with 32 rpm.

the other 2 strong motors each has strength of 500 Nm with 10 rpm.

 
--- download the attached file  :)
Logged

FreeEnergy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2014
    • The Freedom Cell Network
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 12:00:05 PM »
regarding my last post. try lowering the strength and rpm for the spinning weight and see results.
Logged

FreeEnergy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2014
    • The Freedom Cell Network
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 12:16:48 PM »
looking good!
Logged

FreeEnergy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2014
    • The Freedom Cell Network
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 01:56:12 PM »
a very low strength, high rpm motor vs very strong motors.
 
 see attachment file.
 
-- EDIT -- see above for corrections:
Logged

FatBird

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1178
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 02:13:57 PM »
Most people here on OverUnity REFUSE to look at ZIP Files & RAR Files.  They are a LOT of trouble & totally unnecessary.

Please post regular files like everybody else & you will get a much BIGGER response.


Thank you.
.
Logged

gauschor

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 529
Re: made this with phun - free energy?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 02:14:24 PM »
I think you are wasting your time with a faulty program... it's not that people never tried such things...eventually they found out it doesn't work.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
« previous next »