I understand what you are saying but if you think Linux is a sea of collaboration and love you are sadly mistaken. Most people here are doing a fine job. Some a realists, some a rationals, some have great math skills, others electrical engineering skills, some are chemists, some are mechanics and physicists.

Under Linux, they are programmers of varying skills, designers of varying methodology but in no way is it any less complicated. Some work in their own projects - GIMP and Inkscape. Others try something new like PiTiVi or freakishly advanced stuff like Kernel engineering and file systems. There are over 80 different Linux versions and all of them have particular advantages and flaws but none of them are less secure than windows which is a bloated, ugly POS that has no democracy at all. 

Here its different strokes for different folks too. Some want gases, some want magnets and others want resonant circuits. Each will make discoveries and advances as they go and I am keenly watching each one progress. The greater pool will focus interest and share ideas but that is all "open source" is. Collaboration and the sharing or contribution of ideas.
You can't demand we all stop what we are doing and down tools, aint gonna happen.

For me its about discovery and something I love more than anything - this planet!

I come here and see progress all the time, the weeding out of fakes through good observation and the exploration of things people just had no idea or concept of. Magnets as motors? common right?

Actually I know it can work because we live on one! Its a giant electron induction engine that through physics produces an almighty gravitational field and its been doing it for 6 billion years. I know something is achievable its just a matter of how and when.

Life is about exploring and discovery, not following someone else's dogma, rules and preset notions of what is and what should be.

This place is doing just fine. Pick your thing, your skills and knowledge will determine what you follow. Take that path and keep thinking, keep working and keep expanding your skills and understanding. That is what science has done anywhere it can and some great names are legacy of that route.

I am not an "inventor" but I do have imagination to be one. I cannot go out into my shed and make stuff because I have to pay bills and not buy tools. I am a programmer, designer for simple stuff like web sites and mostly enjoy building computers but my greatest passion is science and ecology so if and when something does come along that can assist with technically I will step in and add my 2 cents. Through others I have seen great discoveries both here and at PES. As a human who loves this planet I am also glad to see so many for reasons only they understand persue something which is important to both humanity at large and science in general.

No one is doing a thing wrong and my learning and understanding of what can be achieved has expanded greatly and it has given me a positive view on life coming into the future facing the many troubling aspects we face today. I believe most people care nothing about it, that's fine let them be. I also believe just a few good ideas from a few good people will make the biggest of differences and it might start here, you never know.

Gas from garbage is not "free energy" but its one hell of a bushiness model. You would not think of that unless you were visiting forums like this. Just how do you get 6 types of fuel from garbage and burn each one in stages and get a 120% energetic gain using a giant water tank? Such a process leaves coal in its wake. I know how I can do that, do you? Thing is, that understanding started right here many years ago and It might be something I will pursue if I can get the finances. Its not free energy, but it works better than a bloody great hole in the ground and its scalable to fit a backyard to a landscape size. If you go on you tube and other forums, the collaboration is in 138 languages just for that and its making the biggest difference everywhere! The information age is already working and its only been 25 years. In so many ways its why Linux is now in phones along with Apple and Microsoft and its not just an OS, its outrageously awesome!

People do what they do because they love it, so honer them...

As for magnet motors which you are welcome to disagree with, UoM recently discovered iron nitride compounds make magnets 18%  stronger than neodymium and Neo magnets are just the funnest toys....
 

http://www.physorg.com/news188458077.html

It sure makes a lot of money for people with excess garbage Mr Troll man

http://www.cambi.no/wip4/detail.epl?cat=10636

2000 chickens
=
124,000kwh PA

@ 8 cents / kwh you are milking money from shit, enjoy...

I just found "Joule Thief 101". This is exactly what I wanted.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8341.0

As always, the obvious was already done by more clever people.

Sorry, I should have looked more carefully, before suggesting a project that already exists.

Greetings, Conrad

Observer,
Much to my shame I have never built one of these,
If you are prepared to offer up
soup to nails
something like "the idiots guide to building a joule thief"

I will build and share !

Chet

Rams,

Looks like the Joule Thief 101 (see above)  is a good resource for basic info and theory.
I am going to study this thread  today.

The Observer
 

Hey Stefan if you read this...How about creating a new category "results by diagrams" and the description of this category would be that used materials in experiments must be completely specified in details! 

otherwise the user's post is deleted or the user is put on read only or even banned! 

and of course we would need Moderators for this. 

Conrad

You see this part right here.

-> it will take me a few months to view the material in the Joule Thief Board<-

Thats the part I'm talkin about!

Nobodies fault we just need to organize a "first post' UPDATEABLE diatribe /schematic of where the thread is.
Stefan did this before with wattsup groundloop pirate gutluc and others
give them moderator privileges to keep their threads in order.
and if they cannot maintain this pass the responsibility off to another dedicated researcher.
Actually Mark should get this asap![i missed your above post]
as well as anyone else that is willing to take on the responsibility [a big pain in the a--]
organizing this way will yield huge benefits!
and probably increase the number of experimenters ten fold.

Chet