Author Topic: What's up (and down) with the Moon??? (Read 10336 times)

TechStuf · « **Reply #15 on:** November 14, 2009, 10:51:53 AM »

Saw the movie 2012 today. As expected, it was an emotional thrill ride harnessed by a corunucopia of jabs at Christianity while deifying human will. The M.O. of TPTB is in full view in this latest of a long line of "psy-op" big budget extravaganzas. The foundational premise is based on the "mayan" prophecy....such as it is. While Christian prophecy, despite being proved correct, is still relegated to "nutjob" status.

Make no mistake people, our earth is reeling....as can be easily proven if one but takes the time to see. Our moon's apparent orbit is the easiest of the signs to spot, as it now rises in the south east and orbits across the sky in the low south, slowly making it's way over a span of a couple weeks or so, to high in the sky, rising in the north east!

Do not let anyone, no matter how well intentioned, if such be the case, confuse you with jargon, the moon's orbit should NOT be swaying so...

Once again, the moon's orbit, as described on many a University website is thus:

http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/~crawfo..._moonorbit.gif

And should not be moving all over the sky as it has been doing as of late. It appears to orbit in such a manner largely because earth is rocking beneath it, as can be verified by the vertical rocking of our current pole star, over the same duration as the moon's orbital track variance.

Although the movie, 2012, is ripe with symbolic clues, apparently meant for their "initiated"....the overt message that men of all nations should be at peace at such a time, tugs at the emotions. However, the solution provided indicates which god serves the interests of those whose focus is solely on physical survival.

The underlying message of the movie is clear, those with "primitive" belief systems are "left behind" (as evidenced in 2012 movie posters which ask the question: "Will you be left behind?") Christians, most of all. Generally, we are represented as being sincere, but misguided, just not able to make it on the "Ark". Notice the inverse prophetic pilfering?

We who KNOW Who the "Ark" truly is, that being Yeshua, Jesus Christ, should....as Luke faithfully advises in my current signature scripture below, Lift up our heads, for His return, draws near.

"For The Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet The Lord in the air." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 RSV)

The above sounds too good to be true to those who prefer to lean upon their own understanding. Pie in the sky, wishful, though primitive, thinking....

But was it wishful thinking that accomplished the following?

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/DTimes-2.htm

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/DTimes-6.htm

Is it simply wishful thinking alone, that nurtures the fruits of which many bear witness everyday? Or God's Gracious Mercy borne in faith? The internet abounds daily with miraculous stories of vindication, healing and Glory resulting from the sincere petition to God Almighty.

The Days of Lot & Noah are here again, we are in their midst...

http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/stud...daysofnoah.htm

As earthquakes increase, and the oceans become even more agitated, as earth's weather increasingly confounds and as the Heavens shake....all as long ago and lovingly foretold in God's Word....

My sincere question to the makers of 2012 and to all those who worship after a military false god, or the god called we the people is this:

Will you be "left behind", while perhaps thinking yourselves ahead?

There is yet a short measure of road remaining in which to search one's soul and petition God in humble sincerity....for His Hand upon your Life.

The Life He was pleased to give You.

Blessings, dear readers, in Yeshua, Jesus Christ

Groundloop · « **Reply #16 on:** November 14, 2009, 01:25:47 PM »

@TechStuf,

If our Earth is reeling and because of that the Moon is moving all over the sky
as it has been doing as of late,

then, should not the oceans tide ALSO be moving all over?

Groundloop.

TechStuf · « **Reply #17 on:** November 14, 2009, 03:57:01 PM »

Absolutely! However, as the moon still traverses the sky in virtually the same direction, taking two weeks or so to complete a single cycle between northerly and southerly extremes, the effects are mitigated to some degree. Although it is playing havoc with ocean currents, and, coupled with the increase in earth's seasonal tilt combined with the wider sun track, this effects the entire earth's weather systems!

We are well into the beginning stages of these things....the massive tsunami of 2004, the tsunamis of american samoa and the solomon islands, as well as anomalous "rogue waves" of which the discovery channel did a documentary, are on the rise.

In fact, it may well have been the 2004 tsunami which started the wobble and increased seasonal tilt, which as I recall, I personally began to notice in the summer of 2007... (other more keen observers, before that). Dr. Hugh Brown may have called it quite closely in his 1967 Book on the subject. The following is an excerpt from page 144:

http://www.habtheory.com/3/thebook.htm

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The careening will not occur at a 90 distance from the point of application of the force, because the energy of the rotating earth bulge, against which the energy of the centrifugal force of the off center ice cap is applied, changes its direction of motion and its geographical location as soon as the bulge starts to move.

The initial start of the careening of the globe will result from a yielding of earth materials along the bulge, near the Equator, at a 90 distance from the point of application of the force.

Once this change of location of a part of the bulge has started, the predominant force will be the ever increasing centrifugal force of the off center elements of the ice cap, which increases at a rate equal to the square of the speed of motion, and which, in turn, increases directly with the increase in distance off center, plus an increment due to the lessening pull in the opposite direction by the ice mass on the opposite side of the Pole of Spin as the ice cap moves sideways across the Pole. Thus, an enormous and rapidly increasing force is developed which carries the ice cap rapidly away from the Pole and toward the Equator.

Blessings in Yeshua

TechStuf · « **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2009, 05:12:50 PM »

Our Moon, according to university sources, orbits on a plane that wobbles both 5 degrees above and below the "ecliptic plane" during each lunar month.

http://www.physics.unlv.edu/~jeffery/astro/moon/diagram/moon_orbit_001.png

One may easily determine for themselves if those numbers are now extinct, by observing the moon's path across the sky intermittently over the course of a couple weeks. Do you see 5 degrees of separation? Or do you see, as increasingly, many more are beginning to see, much, much, more than this?

Now, regarding the movie, 2012

The only reason I watched the whole thing was to provide meaningful rebuttal to their pernicious attempts at misguiding the masses. TPTB absolutely count on the effectiveness of the cwhoreporate media to infect the minds of the populace, and especially our Children. The 2012 Movie took jab after jab at the Spiritual Minded Individual, especially Christians! Why? Because they KNOW what our Bible says about these things and that such description is Dead on Accurate and that the Truth will give MANY a most needed Spiritual Shot in the Arm! Our Sun, Moon and stars out of place, the increasingly agitated oceans, say:

STAND, LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, FOR YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH!

The "entertainment industry" is rife with diabolical machinations....

If one can stomach the Truth of it, and it IS important, consider the following:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...69024589298776

The fact that our Earth is in the grip of a most serious travail is of utmost importance. For there are signs everywhere, yet NOT meant for everyone, but for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

I really appreciate the efforts of those who "Actually" get out and observe these things, as opposed to staying glued to the chair at the office, or at home. These facts are very important because of what Luke and Isaiah foretold.

If you may have noted on my "earth axis" thread, I explain how one might easily determine these things for one's self, yet some of the detractors of our sincere observations, seem to prefer to blindly parrot extinct, or misleading data. I believe that perhaps this is NOT accidental, as I, the host of divulgence.net, and others who've posted information, were and are met with such 'armchair rebuttals' in the same way. This, despite the relative ease with which one might make meaningful determination of these things for one's self.

I believe that it is quite possible that this is NOT a coincidence and TPTB obviously do NOT want the general populace taking hold of the Truth. Not because lives are at stake, but because MANY would turn toward or return toward Christ Yeshua, the Immortal Enemy to Those at the "Top".

Those who are honest, usually take note of the observations of others and try and discern facts for themselves, not continally post extinct and distracting "evidence", proving their blind devotion to perhaps even blinder "lettered men".

Right now the Moon is in the southern sky, tracking low across it, observe, maybe even take pictures intermittently over the next couple weeks.....ONLY a person whose JOB it is to provide Disinformation, or a willfully nonobservant individual, will look at such information, and say that it jibes with the pre-2004 tsunami orbital models provided by universities and other organs of TPTB.

The Number One Reason that this information is SO VITALLY Important, is that it Confirms Luke 21:25-28 and Isaiah 24:20....and it Will awaken many to our Father's Holy Word and the lateness of the Hour. The LAST thing that TPTB want, is for You, I, and Others to Stand, Lift Up our Heads and instruct many, for they seem to much prefer them fearful, and hanging low over the results of the diabolical machinations of TPTB....

Make no mistake, You've EXCELLENT reason to Stand, and Lift your Heads High!

All the better to see the Arrival of our Master, returning in Power, with Great Glory!

2012 movie posters, and indeed the movie itself, declare in no uncertain terms, the statement: "We were warned".

To which I reply, YES WE WERE. And quite accurately, by The Holy Word of God, not some ancient Mayan calendar which simply and supposedly ends in the year 2012. Apparently "THEY" can shout "Tilted Earth!" in a crowded theater, but try and share the real facts with everyday people instead of only those they deem "clever" enough to "get the message" and.....well, one may draw their own conclusions.

The movie posters also ask Christians what is supposed to be a thought provoking question:

"Who will be left behind?"

To them I reply, emphatically, YAHWEH Wills for no one to be left behind...

"However, many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first." - Matthew 19:30

Blessings in Yeshua

MileHigh · « **Reply #19 on:** November 22, 2009, 10:25:04 PM »

TechStuf:

What absolute nonsense you are posting and have been posting about this issue. The moon is not changing its orbit, and nothing will happen in 2012.

You drop a whole bunch of buzzwords and expressions in an attempt to discredit your debunkers to no avail.

Nothing is going to happen and if the moon was truly changing its orbit we would know about it. However, most people have common sense and know that it's impossible for the moon to change its orbit.

I will sound a warning about you. You are the person to watch out for, you are the the one spreading false information. There is absolutely no evidence that anything that you are saying is true and if you persist on stating this nonsense then you are a lunatic, which is 100% apropos.

Don't you go questioning my motives - it's your motives and/or mental stability that are in question.

MileHigh

TechStuf · « **Reply #20 on:** November 23, 2009, 02:28:11 AM »

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Nothing is going to happen and if the moon was truly changing its orbit we would know about it. However, most people have common sense and know that it's impossible for the moon to change its orbit.

What do you mean by "we"? You said, that "we" would know about it.

Also, by "buzzwords", did you mean words like "Ecliptic Plane" and "5 degrees"?

You mention that most people have common sense and know that it's "impossible" for the moon to change it's orbit. Now who's using "buzzwords"? In my experience, most people regularly defy common sense, and nothing is impossible!

The information I posted, demonstrates that it is easy for those wishing to exercise their observational skills to determine that the moon's apparent orbital track is WAY outside of the 5 degree figure mentioned on University websites, not to mention, in science textbooks going way back. As for your assertion that I implied that anything was going to happen in conjunction with the year "2012" as highlighted in the movie, 2012, I never said anything of the kind. You talk of my nonsense yet you demonstrate that you cannot be trusted to even regurgitate what you read with any reliable degree of accuracy!

"Milehigh", I won't question your motivations, but your critical thinking and observational skills are, in my view, questionable indeed.

Blessings in Yeshua

pcjunkie · « **Reply #21 on:** November 23, 2009, 03:21:08 AM »

The Moon like the Earth and any other planet has an orbit procession that will, has and always will remain in balance with its host. It didn't wake up last Sunday and decide to go to Mars. No orbit ellipse is perfect, no planets rotation remains constant. Everything is in flux and the moon rising 2 degrees off from "normal" (<- you should define this, then you might have a clue) is nothing to go tripping out about and certainly not worth Bible thumping excuses or 2012 hogwash that the world is going to end.

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 23, 2009, 04:51:44 AM »

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TechStuf · « **Reply #23 on:** November 23, 2009, 07:00:38 AM »

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Everything is in flux and the moon rising 2 degrees off from "normal" (<- you should define this, then you might have a clue) is nothing to go tripping out about and certainly not worth Bible thumping excuses or 2012 hogwash that the world is going to end.

You are absolutely right! (about one thing)

The mayan 2012 calendar prophecy is hogwash.

As for your figure of 2 degrees off from normal for moon rise....anyone willing and capable of observing moonrise intermittently over the course of two weeks can take you to task over the anemic figure you posted.

As for "tripping out" as you say....

I respond that discovery and sharing of the Truth will always give some a reason to "trip out", while others are given a solid reason to take heart and work for the betterment of their fellow human beings.

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/DTimes-2.htm

http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/studies/online/daysofnoah.htm

Blessings in Yeshua

TechStuf · « **Reply #24 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:24:43 AM »

The Inuit of the far north, virtually unanimously agree that earth's seasonal tilt has changed considerably. The following article (with video) details some of their observations.

http://www.isuma.tv/hi/en/inuit-knowledge-and-climate-change/tilted-earth-has-changed-everything

Many Inuit still live the way of their ancestors, their knowledge of the position of Sun, Moon and stars is a basic requirement to their way of life.

Blessings in Christ Yeshua

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