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Judges

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2010, 04:04:57 AM »
Good Grief,Charlie Brown,,,
Not Fusion=off
PLASMA=on hold,,
WAY to many projects!
Joe.

sparks

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2010, 04:41:12 AM »
      ???

Judges

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2010, 08:44:50 PM »
http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/49714/Mu-Metal-Faraday-Cage

Interesting thread,,that,,,and do you see the similarities with this Forum?
Indeed
THAT (as Martha Stewart would say) is a "good thing"
I have replied there as a Guest as I am sure some of you have.

The problem is not with this or that forum but instead the sharing.Thank you for allowing me here.
I see other threads like mine,filled with ideas.Perhaps this, some day,will mesh with a newer idea.

My High Voltage brute strength PLASMA,thread,,has turned into the evolution of the material to make my ferro fluid.

KEEP um Comeing
Joe in Texas

sparks

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2010, 05:12:40 AM »
    I cant imagine the outcome of a cavitation within the field of a plasma.  The free electrons would most likely drift into the cavity depending on the magnetic field lines permeating the plasma field.  Then the bubble shrinks at a very accelerated rate.  Often approaching the speed of light.  The electrons have no choice but go for an inward towards each other ride.  They create a very negative pole and sure as hell are gonna fly away as fast as they can out of the plasma.  I forget how fast an electron has to go before it starts doing a little blue shifting. 

jadaro2600

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2010, 06:43:39 AM »
What if you constructed two individual positive electrodes with common negative ground and alternating when one was on the other isn't , then formed them in such a way as to create cavitation between them in the space between, ..bumps, or what have you.

Judges

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 04:35:32 AM »
MY,MY, the klystron is not your"grandfathers vacuum tube"
I confess as to knowing very little about it,although,thru the internet and sparks reply,I am learning a little.
It has helped me to tear the klystron down to as few basic parts as possible,then identify the parts.The "cavity" is extremely interesting as is the "antenna".
The one I am looking at has an oblong glass tube with a large(1/16"wideX3/8" long)filament.
What I have trouble with is "direction of microwaves"
BUT: as I have said,,,,I am learning.

On a side note,,I have a 2-10GHz frequency generator.Out put is 2.2 volt RMS,,so about 1.5 volt ac.
IS THERE A WAY?,,,,I can increase this voltage to a reasonable level ie: 20V ac,,without harming the frequency (or the generator)???voltage multiplier circuits I understand,,just don"t know how many levels and diode cap diode cap diode cap,,,values
Could some one here take a shot at helping me with this??

>>>EDIT:3 HOUR POST,Question no longer stands

This is an old big heavy,Q gen:GigaTronics Model 605/2-8-4,,Config: 171

I think I might finish my day with
the reading of this quite comprehensible, manuel(spelling?),after all I have ran ALL the test it gives for proper setup,
Three BNC connectors AM-FM-PULSE
Possobilites????

>>>>1 hour later

ALAS,I find the
ONLY red writeing on front of The sig gen front.
 RF OUT:TO 20 dBM, MAX,REV,,

>>>>Added 3 hours later,,found my db meter,two of these,glued to a magnifying glass lens,,hmmm


I see that I have a ""Synthesized""Microwave Signal Generator,,,the word Synthesized meaning "made up" to me,,,I could be wrong,any way,I will give the reading of this manual my entire attention of hopes to glean an idea of how it works.
Perhaps the 2.2V RMS is all it is capable of and there is no way to step it up large enough to use as a pulse,,,am I dreaming or will it be possible to read some of the changing out-put on my Tek 465,one hundred MEGA hertz,,,of course not,never happen,,HOWEVER my tek 465 easily showed the wave change for me standing outside the door of my new ,cement slab,metal bldg,24 by 30 ft,ungrounded,,Touching the door would evoke a change in the wave form on crt.
Probe set 1x,chanel 1,top black knob,hard left,,I Really like my Tek 465,,I have had better,but I will keep this one as I have repaired it a couple of times(I know some of its innards)Dammm it is COLDbrrrrrrrrrr,,,n==number of freezes times texas weather history,,this is the big One,kids take shelter,Just kidding,

,,,,I imagine I am like most here.If I find a Forum ,bothering me,I leave it as I did the canadian(?) Mars Forum,hurts for a day,then its over,I was there 20 years,whatever,
Good Night Chet,Good night David.
Joe in Texas
EDIT: I will print all of this crap and use the back for notes in the manual.
Moderator this is as always on your approval.
Feel free to edit,change or simply not allow.
I will stand by your decision,,after all,,I must be thankful of the privilege, of a possible(Very Smart) audience.

How can a 64 year old man take 5 hours to compose a message??WOW!!GOOD STUFF=Quite,calm peaceful Texas ,ambient 36 Fahrenheit.I have truly enjoyed visiting with you today.Barometer 103.6 kilo pascals.

Compututor,,,how do I hook speaker out, to my 32.3 KVA Plasma generation?,,,I would have to go up the electrodes with,low impedence,diodes,,,,I would think,,,Make it sound good and when it warms up(if ever) I will use my new ballast as I am thru testing it.I can see tieing a small container of liquid,in a fashion,to the electrode,and arc thru it.I am looking at your paper:
 Idea:
Plasma for water dissociation for HHO.
(omitted)
Perhaps a glass vessel with water passing thru the plasma field making 42-Khz and its harmonics?
End.
I find this very simple (I hope),,,first thought is,,
will the plasma go around the glass or thru it? interesting,30 min max expt.We shall See.


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Sparks,in the dissected,klystron,I see a voltage doubler,,,is this happening in the cavity?Do you understand my question?,,,as this could have been much easier done down stream(diode,capacitor) instead of actually "up against the wall" of the klystron?,Ah,Yes!
Talked myself into answering my own question!
Thanks Sparks!
For the gentelman"WithLots ofStars by his Name"
(started with a w) I like this Joe guy,I can't see how with the lengthy,jumping,subject to subject,,oh a joke
Question: Does your wife talk during ?
Answer:Yes she called from the motel.

sparks

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 05:25:42 AM »
   The cb fanatics into shouting use 1000watt linear amplifiers.  I dont know their frequency range but they were good for lighting fluresecent tubes from a number of feet away from the antennae.   The really loud guys would string 1/4 wave antennaes around the backyard dump a 1000 watts into the string and bounce the emwwaves off the heated ionosphere.  Simply called the skip.   Get the same old severly weird people 1200 miles away drowning out a trucker looking for directions a 1/3 of a mile down the highway every day. 

Judges

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 06:23:45 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9NvboKL43Q

Is this what you were talking about CompuTutor?

I can replicate this easily,,

What will it tell me?

The moderator might post a message I sent in reply from him
Sparks,,INFORMATION OVERLOAD,,no dis-respect,,just that I can't read your post at this time as I have ,,a BIG iron in the fire.
quickly:freq gen ,external connections,,I inch thick manual,,,schematics,,microwaves,,do you understand that I cant read your post till I have digested this,Sparks?,,friends??

Joe in Texas

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 09:56:33 AM »
Three more added,,,now to figure out how to make them show up here instead of having to use a vector
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae285/Judges_album/?action=view&current=DSC00374.jpg&newest=1

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 09:57:05 AM »
Three more added,,,now to figure out how to make them show up here instead of having to use a vector
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sparks

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 10:38:47 AM »
Joe friend you wind that solenoid up behind the pigs.

Judges

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2010, 09:19:11 PM »
So you saw it sparks,,,,(sigh),,,,I will have to endure the laughter and ridicule I'm sure upon receipt of said Picture.
Have said that (ramble)
IF(capital,if),,,My Sony,2.0 Cyber-shot mega,(ramble)pixels,
Point:Why even take a picture under anything but the MAX your camera can put out,,DUH?,,What's the point?
Rambel on,old man(note to myself,remove)

The link posted below is DANGEROUS,,,HABIT FORMING,,,please heed my warning as I have found hours,un-accounted for,,in front of my computer,THERE!!!!
http://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=62
DO NOT ENTER UNTIL  YOU LEARN ENGLISH
kidding,,rambling,,rambling,,

Ballast/choke/solenoid(I love it!(tell it like it is,it's a railgun!!!
Nope
Crudely made,in a hurry to finish,last layer only,,the other,lower,layers,get progressively better,more uniform,same side up,square wire(military coated,UHHHH),,
I tried annealing the last 50 feet,and did so,I thought,,winding by hand,proved otherwise.I will have to admit I haven't brought it up to full(999999.percent,shorted)to act as a ballast,>>>>>opinion needed here<<<<<<of running a string of 3kv caps,parellel??(I have 32)
I ain't doing shit today,ice,then more rain.
I will send a picture or 4,of Ballast,Wound Under Extreme Conditions,Yes,I do take some highly suspect MEDICATION,,but
wtf,,,,,,,Its me and God
Soooooooooooooooo,,,,
Uh,
PigPen??
PigPen,,this here is Rubberduck,You go can back her on up if,you want to,back on down,around Omahaw,would be just fine,yo say?,COPY<<<you gotta  copy??
or
Any body got a copy on those Long Haired Friends of Jesus??
driving a.Short Truce,Mic-row bus,?????their hauling Dynamite!!

Gotta Go,,camera comes on only in setup mode(JUST found out) change some settings and see
later
j.