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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 344545 times)

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #540 on: January 13, 2010, 07:01:22 PM »
Hi Tony

Using the formula gives me a height of 41.89mm for an 80mm diameter tube. Is this correct. I recall you were using a 70mm high coil originally.

l = (80 x 3.142)/6 = 41.89mm

Cheers

Sam

Hi Sam,

Please ignore my very first coil I posted (70mm length). Somebody suggested a 45 degrees on sides to try, I did and was doing well so we agreed to stick to the 45 as a "standard" thus everybody will get the same coil and we can minimise the chance to make a mistake. Later we will vary every parameters, but for now we stay at the 45 degrees.

Yes, BTW the ~40mm is correct. ;)

minde4000

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #541 on: January 13, 2010, 07:08:51 PM »
@agentgates

Your formula for 45 degree angle is incorrect.

Check my last post withdrawings.

In order to get 45 degree angle in this particular case:

R = H (radius = height)

Minde

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #542 on: January 13, 2010, 07:13:19 PM »
Ramset

I know. It is hard to hear a couple more days after a couple more days, thats all.  Its almost like having a missing person in your life and being told that they were found but keep delaying the homecoming again and again.
And Im sure we are all anxious. I worry about it all being manipulated before the real deal makes it to the plate.

Now if I had Natasha, you know the hot russian chick in my life raft that we escaped in after Coil Fingers superconducting boat of doom exploded, I would send her over to to give gates a pep talk.  lol

Hop grasser

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #543 on: January 13, 2010, 07:24:05 PM »
Well I gota head out. Hate to miss anything.

Magluvin 07

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #544 on: January 13, 2010, 07:30:46 PM »
@Minde

No, my formula is absolutely correct. ;)
http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1130294.JPG

@Magluvin

Ramset is right. So please be patient. :)

BTW, this is the sequence on that track you're about to get us to join you. They are each a cause of the the next one in the list:

1. Overexcitement.
2. Impatience.
3. Rush.
4. Skipping important steps.
5. Mistake.
6. Failure.
7. Loosing your energy.
8. Turning back.
9. Keep repeating the above process until the big turn:
10. Loosing faith in what you are doing.
11. Need to protect yourself against others critisism.
12. Blaming others for your failure to protect your social rank.
13. Depression.
14. Worse...

It is a well tried out way and you don't need to go too far to verify it, just look around on this site and/or watch Marco's video. A very good lesson.

Be a perfectionist and don't get overexcited when you have a little success! If they are each a cause of the next one you can eliminate all of them in the list by getting rid of the first one.

UPDATE

Need to get a 2-3 hours rest guys, my heart is not doing well. I'll be back right after and hook it up.

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #545 on: January 13, 2010, 07:57:59 PM »
I hear ya ton. Im cool.  I dont really have many good things going good for me at this time, and just the reality that this is possible, will bring a tear to my eye that this will do good for all. Good luck

I had an experience where someone at fizzx said they figured out how AL got he whipmag to work, and I wasnt the only one impatiently awaiting the answer. It took a bit to get that answer and the answer was a secret motor drive. 

Take care of that heart and again  good luck.   Now Im really late. =]

Mags

minde4000

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #546 on: January 13, 2010, 08:52:22 PM »
@agentgates

I gave you a geometrical/mathematical proof. You show me a rudder?...
Your formula is close. R = H is dead on.

I wont debate about this anymore.

Best of luck

Minde

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #547 on: January 13, 2010, 09:01:23 PM »
@minde

your fromula used 6.25 the square root of which is 2.5, shouldn't it have been 5.0625 square root of which is 2.25? Please check your formula and tell me where 6.25 comes from

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #548 on: January 13, 2010, 09:38:57 PM »
Hi,

those who thinks about the winding geometry of this device may want to consider this posting from energeticforum.com
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4587-marko-rodin-15.html#post77884

In his follow up postings user 'rococo' also supplied drawings of the different patterns. Unfortunately you can only see the drawings when you are logged into the forum.

Hope this is not too far off topic.


Thank you for the info!

@agentgates
                     That build brought a tear to my eye  :'( , so beautiful , i can't wait to slam it with all kinds of frequencies!Where can i send you a care package?

btw....your spacings look like you had a rotary table, did you do tht by hand?...great work!

broli

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #549 on: January 13, 2010, 10:21:26 PM »
@agentgates

I gave you a geometrical/mathematical proof. You show me a rudder?...
Your formula is close. R = H is dead on.

I wont debate about this anymore.

Best of luck

Minde

Did you consider the curvature of the tube? Just like a square the sides have to be equal to have a 45° angle. This is why the height of the tube has to be equal to the arc length of the tube part where the diagonal line spans across. If no tube is used then indeed H = radius.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #550 on: January 13, 2010, 10:51:35 PM »
@ minde4000
                  i believe those derivations may be incompatible for the differential changes which take place on a curved spline...though they are negligible at small radiuses, they become substantial with larger ones.

Mk1

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #551 on: January 13, 2010, 11:02:34 PM »
@minde

Have you made a coil , i believe not .

The problem i see with your equation is that it will not permit making more the few turns before you get to the exact same position , overlapping the turns.

You will see if you build it.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #552 on: January 13, 2010, 11:25:30 PM »
@ Tony
Is this the effect You are observing driving your TPU?

experiment description: Tpu with one driving coil, ONE TURN of collector loaded with 2.2ohm/3W resistor and white LED parallel. Diode light is very bright, voltage measured on the 2.2ohm load You can see on the scope. Input power about 12W, output about 1W. Still far from from OU, but for me there is something goin on in this device (Im an electronic engineer). Btw, this setup IS frequency dependent. The highest power occurs when freq=33kHz

Marek

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #553 on: January 13, 2010, 11:35:39 PM »
@ Tony
Is this the effect You are observing driving your TPU?

experiment description: Tpu with one driving coil, ONE TURN of collector loaded with 2.2ohm/3W resistor and white LED parallel. Diode light is very bright, voltage measured on the 2.2ohm load You can see on the scope. Input power about 12W, output about 1W. Still far from from OU, but for me there is something goin on in this device (Im an electronic engineer). Btw, this setup IS frequency dependent. The highest power occurs when freq=33kHz

Marek

Try more turns maybe 2-3 secondaries of 2-6 turns each....see what happens and also what is the voltage input?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #554 on: January 13, 2010, 11:42:16 PM »
Hi Marek,
is this the scopeshot across the 2.2 Ohm resistor ?
How does your input voltage look from across the input coil
at 33 Khz ?
Is it a 50/50 duty cycle square wave ?

Hmm, the positive hump wavehill is mysterious there.
Please try with different load resistors and without load resistors
and with more turns and please post more scopeshots.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.