@Gadgetmall
Hmm, let me get this straight-- you are selling a simple circuit partially developed by people here at OU.com that lights a few LED's and charges a AA battery which many people in the JT thread have already done ---for $99, then you have booby trapped it so that nobody can fix it without destroying it--does that about sum it up? Wow, you are quite the humanitarian. My newest JT light runs for a week from a few hours in the sun, has no batteries and I was planning on selling them for $6 per unit---with no spider webbing security, I guess your my competition, lol. To be honest I felt guilty with the $6 price and have been working to reduce it as many people in third world countries could never afford one. Did you know there are already free plans on the web for an LED light that will run for 6 months off a single AA battery?, the internet really is amazing isn't it?.
http://www.circuit-projects.com/miscellaneous/battery-powered-night-lamp-by-555-timer.html

Regards
AC

E-light is not a jt . I developed it . and no i told you i have acontract with a manufacture who will mass produce them . Mine take a weeks to build ,tune and test and use a very expensive part You cannot buy the part It uses . The Video i showed is not My Elight It is a Jt it started with a jt on the table I just crammed it in one of my dollar light fixtures that i used for elights . The on ein the Video i do not sell and also i do not sell anymore E-light ,the manufacture will and they will most likely cost 30- 50 dollars . They run for months . There is nothing like them on the planet that has ever been patented . You see you have to get a patent search that cost a LOT of money before to can get a provisional patent .
Simply put My E-light system is not on the internet nor has anyone a copy of that circuit . Further more i patented the Spider wire protection  to stop reverse enginering . I guess you dont like that . Well too bad. How long does it take you to make your 6 dollar light ? 5 miunites ? You use a common parts . there you go nothing special about you light that you cant buy anywhere else . Mine is self contained requires no external power , runs from dead batteries and produces light and charges another battery . Its no where on earth in public but me . Now anyone can make a simple jt and charge another battery . many have played with thta circuit . I think Lidmotor may have a nice circuit that will do that for so many swaps but he uses a jt . Ok the Video i showed uses a jt too but the difference is an accidental part configuration that causes the run battery to charge up and as a bonus this also charges the Charge battery .  . Dont start a flame war . If you dont understand then just sell you stuff and leave me alone . I have had enuff and you all are starting to sound like a recorder . Flaming me for nothing you have no idea and i am tired of explaining myszelf over and over and over allcanadian . Have a nice Christmas . I 'll take 500 lights please . have them ready by tomorrow

@ gadgetmall

People who accept Nobel prizes from the Netherlands are not considered traitors, why would you be? How silly.

It was somthing jarado said Xee2 that scared me . Will i be treasonous for releasing technology that could change the world if i am a us citizen , and sold it to another country ? Not the E-light i have that so its not a perpetual motion device in the patent but i am talking about the video i showed and the device i built to enter the Ou prize . If i accept money and sell out so to speak is that treason ? We are not talking about the Netherlands we are talking about Germany 

I'd really like to hear Gadgets reply to AllCanadian. Gadget has really changed in the last few weeks. Originally, everything was going to be open source and a group effort. Now he is selling the group effort for $99US. Good luck. And now he also has patents coming out the wazoo.

Also, At first he was real happy (and others) to see that Paul was going to step up and use his time and expertise to verify one of his devices. Now, after Paul's measurements were posted, It seems that Paul doesn't know what he's talking about. I bet if he said that the results showed OU, he would be a hero to some. 

Gadget is not playing very nice. Very Disappointing.

@Gadget,
If your new device works out to be as great as you say, I hope you don't forget about all the little people here who helped you along the way. I know I am not one of them, and I don't think I need to name them. You know who they are.

Mr mag? Apparently you didnt read . The e-light is old news bud.It wasnt a GROUP EFFORT !! . Also Paul was the one who turned no i . I was perfectly happy with his results and i thought we were friends . He turned on me . See how things get twisted ? You dont even know what you are stating Mrmag. I am sorry you are not comprehending anything . E-lights are now under contract Mr;mag . Its not a Jt Mr Mag . . You have a nice Christmas .I have not Changed you all have and can't read or refuse to comprehend anything i say . Make your own free energy  Mrmag . I will not share again i promise that ! . If you all dont want free energy then Ok . You wont have it . I will ask Groundloop to do this in private and forget i ever mentioned helping anyone . Ok . Gnight Mrmag Merry Christmas and forgive me but i have had quite enuff  of this and  now i will go away . You talk about some one else ok . I refuse to feed Trolls anymore . . Not that you are one Mr mag . I thought a lot of you but you are turning just like all the rest and twisting everything to suit you . .

@Gadgetmall
I cannot say for sure what you are doing as I do not know but what I can tell you is one battery can be 80% discharged with no voltage drop which in turn can overcharge another battery to the point of leakage. This is because a battery is a device which maintains voltage through chemical reactions, this is what a battery is designed to do --- maintain voltage. This is also why a battery can have full rated voltage at rest but not support any load current without dropping it's voltage because it can no longer ----maintain voltage, and it is essentially dead. If you really want to know the state of charge in your batteries do a load test to 80% of full rated amperage, this will tell you the real state of the battery as voltage indicates very little.
I do not mean to flame anyone and I can see you take any criticism very personally so I will leave this thread, as far as my light is concerned it means very little and I brought it up because I think your pricing is absurd.
Regards
AC

Thank you for being Kind At least and its not that i take criticism bad its that all of the sudden everybody is hating me for one reason or another . and 99 dollars is not unreasonable for a device of that kind and the fact is i sold so many of them i stopped selling them because they take too much time and cost way more than any normal digikey parts . The part is non existent and not even on the market yet . Look up barium doped germanium and see if you even get a hit .
I accept your criticism just fine and you have your say but things are just getting out of control and i cannot even enjoy Christmas like i want to . So it is better for me that i leave this thread . You stay . 

@ GadgetMall  =  Thank you for being Kind At least and its not that i take criticism bad its that all of the sudden everybody is hating me for one reason or another.

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It's NOT you Gadgetmall.  Try to remember there are TROLLS on this site that get PAID by Big Oil to cause DISSENTION and DISCOURAGEMENT so inventors GIVE UP and go away.

So let's all hang in there and NOT give in to the Paid Trolls!!!


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@Gadgetmall
Im not here to bash anyone and any criticism I offered was meant to help, I have got my hopes up on many occasions only to realize I was not taking everything into consideration and this realization was not pleasant in any way. I am not saying you made a mistake or are wrong in any way I am simply offering knowledge of things I know from experience, from the many mistakes I have made in the past. I would also agree that there are plenty of people who are being mean spirited very close to a time of the year when we should be giving thanks for what we have and maybe being a little nicer to one another.
Merry Christmas
AC

oh thats rich! "paid troll" LOL you guys actually read what you type?