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Airstriker · « **Reply #180 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:39:32 PM »

ok after all it wasn't that bad

toroid coils... hmm

lumen · « **Reply #181 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:00:05 PM »

I wonder the polarity of the rotor magnets.
At what position is the coil triggered.
Before coil center, as in attraction?
After center, as in repel?
After center, as in changing the permeability of the core to remove attraction?

I guess not much was answered on the operational theory.
Was still interesting.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #182 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:18:33 PM »

Steorn said they'll post the recent live talks on their youtube page,

http://www.youtube.com/user/SteornOfficial

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #183 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:20:41 PM »

Someone else posted the video, no sound

,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnDW3mGyNvA

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #184 on:** December 19, 2009, 08:49:49 PM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 19, 2009, 07:20:41 PM

Someone else posted the video, no sound ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnDW3mGyNvA

Speccy said the above video was captured some of the silent bit before it started, setting it up, some oscilloscope traces and what not. So it's not the entire talk.

markdansie · « **Reply #185 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:25:21 PM »

here is a description of a similar device
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5125780462773187994#
This may help you see the orbo in a new light.
Kind Regards
Mark

ResinRat2 · « **Reply #186 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:47:56 PM »

Ahhh...the Retro-Encabulator!!!

Why didn't I understand Orbo before. The differential girdle-spring was the KEY component!!!

Thanks Mark!!!

lumen · « **Reply #187 on:** December 19, 2009, 10:41:59 PM »

I think he was right, it did seem to have the retro look!

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #188 on:** December 19, 2009, 10:47:23 PM »

Here's a nice brand new HD video on the orbo at the demo site,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6tdlavXAMY

markdansie · « **Reply #189 on:** December 20, 2009, 12:39:53 AM »

@resinrat,
you hit the nail on the head. Well done.
I am posting the link again so we can do a direct comparision with the link paul has put up. I am sure everyone will be amazed at the similarities in terminology and outcomes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5125780462773187994#

Have a good xmas everyone

Mark

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #190 on:** December 20, 2009, 01:40:07 AM »

Could someone please post the lingo similarities? Also it didn't look the orbo.

lumen · « **Reply #191 on:** December 20, 2009, 01:57:59 AM »

One was a bad actor practicing for the Ronco talent show, and the other was some engineer that may have a solution to endless energy.

Not a close match but exactly the same for someone with glaucoma. (narrow vision)

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #192 on:** December 20, 2009, 02:27:20 AM »

Steorn just posted todays Talks video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nae_I_Mus

utilitarian · « **Reply #193 on:** December 20, 2009, 02:44:07 AM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 20, 2009, 01:40:07 AM

Could someone please post the lingo similarities? Also it didn't look the orbo.

Dude, are you seriously expecting someone to make a comparison analysis between the orbo and the retro discombobulator thingy? The point is they are both joke devices.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #194 on:** December 20, 2009, 03:47:08 AM »

Hi All,

today was a live demo of a scope measurement on the ORBO.

Now this thing gets much more clearer !

Have a look at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nae_I_Mus
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl5ZxPkGxmQ

Seems Steorn has a valid counterEMF less (Lenz law violation) motor
which brings up the possibility to produce greater mechanical torque power than inputed electrical power.

The question is, if the mechanical attraction of the magnets to the ferrite cores (distance x force) of the toroidal coils are bigger than the used energy pulse to energize the toroidal coils.

But surely you can get 90 % of the electrical input energy back, when recycling the BackEMF from the coils...

(This is the energy where the green scope trace line oscillates)

So I think it is a valid OU motor concept.

Now they only have to optimize the toroidal coils,
so these would need to have a much higher turn winding numbers, so
they work more likely like Newman coils and donÂ´t need so much energy
per On pulse. Surely you have to optimize the tau=LxR of the coil wire
to get fast switching times for high speed=high power motors
and then compromize to use low input current with more turn number coils
and higher coil impedances.

Well done Steorn.

Regards, Stefan.

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