K then, which "piece of fruit" have you voted for lately that had the best "skin of the fruit"? Lately, it's been more which rotten piece of fruit will sicken me the least if I eat it?

I simply love intellectual arguments, besides that of Barbarianism of course.
it is very difficult to find fruits that don't have scars on their skin, sometimes it can be rather frustrating to choose one only to find out there is a worm hidden under the skin that rotted it. maybe that choice label sticker is covering up a worm hole, you never know unless you do some deep investigations.

as far as voting is concerned, I have seen scars with every political opponent and just about every human has scars, some are really good at hiding scars.

Voter turnout in the last 2 decades before this prior one seemed to point out that most don't like eating ANY rotten fruit.

neither do I.

This does not jibe with your above statement "it is the evil within the good people that make up the Government...", and I find it nowhere in the article I cited in my post #10 that was:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/1875-a-brief-history-of-government-immunizations

I think you may have been looking at another tab in your browser, and not the one from this site.

no, I was simply adding my comment about the last paragraph in the article.

last paragraph;

Americans should carefully educate themselves regarding the disease and the vaccine — considering the risks of both. But no matter what happens, the government should cease its propaganda and the mass vaccination campaign, with everything that involves. It must obey the Constitution and allow citizens to make their own decisions with their families and doctors.

When is evil to your fellow man appropriate or good? When has it ever been? Does it absolve the "good people that do evil things" that it is  what happens in gov't?

there is +6.7 billion people on this planet, it is impossible to filter out all the bad apples from the Bushels. it will get worse.

Does that work for priests accused of molestation too? Should I absolve the church that shuffled them around after complaints so they could do it again somewhere else and save themselves (the church) from embarrassment?

some wolves who decide to wear sheep's clothing to get to the flock are mentally ill. some don't want to admit it was their fault for falling asleep and allowing the wolves to get into the herd.

Evil is evil, good is good.
If there weren't a delineation between the the two words they wouldn't have diametrically opposed definitions and we wouldn't be able to use them to describe different things. This is the nature of language.

if you are Human, you are both good and evil. it is inherent. some people are just better at controlling that evil within them than others.

As to the "good" people, is it "good" for them to sit back and allow evil to be done to their fellow man that they are responsible for since that's what they are in office for and who elected them into the position where they could allow "evil" to be done through inaction?
Does that still allow them to be seen as "good"?

sometimes it is to late to solve the problem because the problem was hiding itself for the opportune moment. there are good people that do turn in the corrupt, that's where the media makes all their great headlines.

_I_ did nothing other than be the offspring of others that believed what the gov't and/or popular history told them. Does that they made bad, "or evil" decisions mean that I had a direct hand in it?
Do you count on your offspring to rectify the evil you may do and that makes it all right?

do you feel guilty for the blood on the hands of the conquerors? it is like someone coming up to you in your car, punch you in the face, hold a pistol to your head and then shoot you and then hijack your car, 200 years later your car was found, does that mean the car still belongs to the hijacker?

settlers hijacked these lands, don't you want to give back the property that was stolen from the Indians?

I cannot absolve those that came before me for their evils, I can only make sure that I do not make the same mistakes and TRY to teach my children to not make the same mistakes of my fore fathers.

no, if you actually cared, you would give back the land to the Indians, otherwise you are just as bad as the hijacker, the only difference is that the hijacker handed down stolen property to his kids. is it still stolen property?

It is if the corruption is allowed to stay hidden by the "good" people that could otherwise speak out.

I am sure that this does occur among friends/relatives within the system, it is like a police officer who tries to hide his or hers own child's crime simply to save face and or even trying to help your best friend get out of jail for stealing bubble gum.

Your argument seems to point to a completely erroneous belief that I am responsible for my fore fathers. How can I be? I wasn't here yet.
As to giving back anything made in America that I have, I think that most would be hard pressed to find a worthy amount of goods they own that didn't have "Made In China" on them these days.

chew on it a bit more, keep that which was made elsewhere and give back everything made in America, hand over the deed to your local Indian tribe and then ask them for a plane ticket back to your ancestral lands, simple as that.

You "read the story" as you evidenced above by supposedly quoting it. I suggest you use the link I reposted in this reply and see if they are the same.

I didn't quote it, I added my own comment 'about' the last paragraph of the article.

If you cannot recognize the quotes from Jonas Salk, Dr. True Ott, and the 'WHO advisor (that) told the London Times in an article entitled "Smallpox vaccine ‘triggered Aids virus." ’, I do think you are confused as to the content of the site I posted.

not nearly as bad as injecting Plutonium into willing subjects but it is still bad research, research just needs more filtering.

Please try to read it again.

no need, I read it 3 times already. lol

now, lets get back to the topic at hand and have a nice discussion and forget our petty differences.

Jerry

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You mean like the petty difference between good and evil? The petty difference between committing a crime, and being the offspring of a criminal?  The petty difference between being a righteous man that preaches about living a better life and someone who accuses you of sin while committing one of the most horrible acts a man can think of?

what is that? killing people at the abortion clinic? fanaticism at best, there are to many mental ill self righteous people in this world who think they're doing God a favor. do us all a favor and don't do God no favors, you don't even know if God was a construct of ancestral imagination based on Hallucinogenic drugs which were very common among priests of those times, one such drug was called Salvia, do a youtube on Salvia and watch them get bombed out.

Yeah, those might be seen as petty to some, but I thought it worth my time to try to try to make the world a less ignorant place.

that is an impossible task even on the internet, but good luck.

I'm sorry if I don't agree with the sites you provided about the successful clinical trials of the vaccine when they're mostly the same body politic that is running a campaign for the enrichment of a company that applied for the patent for the H1N1 vaccine a full year before the first reported case, and approved that patent a month before it as well?

volunteer for the shot and prove me wrong, but of course, I can already predict the outcome on this one.

I'm not sure how that's the makings of a nice discussion, but I wish you good luck with that.

you too, God Bless. be good and thank you.

Jerry

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what is that? killing people at the abortion clinic? fanaticism at best, there are to many mental ill self righteous people in this world who think they're doing God a favor. do us all a favor and don't do God no favors, you don't even know if God was a construct of ancestral imagination based on Hallucinogenic drugs which were very common among priests of those times, one such drug was called Salvia, do a youtube on Salvia and watch them get bombed out.

How the above quote have any relevance to what I said?

that is an impossible task even on the internet, but good luck.

You make a good object lesson of that Jerry, but if I should give up then it looks like you're correct and some people that could have otherwise have been educated will take for granted what they always have without thinking of a differing viewpoint.

volunteer for the shot and prove me wrong, but of course, I can already predict the outcome on this one.

You think it will help, that's cool. Keep us up to date on your health after you've given solid proof other than your "word" you have received it. That'll make for a convincing argument.

Otherwise, keep coming back, avoiding questions put to you, and trying to confuse the issues discussed with your beliefs.
Those actions do a much better job than I of proving the quality of your thoughts.

This may be of interest when considering the agenda of 'the powers that be' behind the scenes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQitYbrZJgA

Regards...

You folks do what you wish.

I achieved immunity to H1N1 the old fashioned way. Things still don't work the way they did two weeks ago.
Same ol' flu? Uh huh.... sure... Wait till the bug bites. For some it'll be almost nothing. For more than a few nothing will matter anymore.

If you just don't seem to feel right and it doesn't feel like a flu bug... well, welcome to the growing group of those who couldn't get the vaccine - or thought they didn't need it.

Just stay away from my friends and family until they all have the shot.

Somehow I don't think I need to worry much about posters on this thread and similar threads. You probably don't get out much anyway 

Too bad. Mother Nature is good at cooking up these little critters for culling the herds. Don't make her build one that can seek out those living in front of a glowing screen.

Was looking for Dankie’s Holiday greetings
And this popped up


The last time


And again vitamin D is big news

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/some-covid-19-vaccines-could-increase-hiv-risk-researchers/
Mags