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Author Topic: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)  (Read 18320 times)

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Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« on: June 28, 2009, 03:29:29 PM »
http://Http://www.physics.colostate.edu/users/pavol/ga_cloning.html

I have been convinced high voltage pulses against a dielectric core were used in the later TPUs. I just couldn't fathom a reason.

The kick appears well after a firing set of pulses but the delay did not click.

Some TPUs appeared to be filled with a dielectric.

I have identified the base of the twin small toroids as a 'clean-room' air ionizer. The need for one didn't make sense.

My experiments with apparent slowing of a watch had no theory behind it.

All these things, and more, fit when I apply the information from the link above.

Some will consider this Sci-Fi so it is useless information for the masses.

I believe I have solutions when applying this method to much lower frequencies, toroidal shape, etc.

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 05:26:58 PM »
For those doubting I'm actually doing something, see attached.

This one is on hold right now. The next one will have on-board controls. I'm debating on going right for the 15 inch TPU, but I think The FTPU, OTPU and the big one are the only ones using this method.

This one is only good at making the sounds of the second 6 inch TPU and burning insulation off the lamp cord. What you see is the re-wrap of lamp cord.


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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 07:15:39 PM »
Must double check but results are better than expected first time round.

The trick is worrying about pulse width not so much frequency.

The amplitude of what appears to be a clone IS dependent upon the charge applied to the dielectric. Velocity factor may not be a factor. When I consider anything but 1 it doesn't work. I need shorter pulses so I can get my dimensions down.

Cork worked but styrafoam is better.  I'm using the top and bottom 'collectors' to apply 20kv to the foam.
The middle 'collector' is three turns of lamp cord used as a TL.

My comments in the tidal pool weren't directed at you.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2009, 01:22:30 AM by BEP »

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 11:36:34 PM »
From what I've seen so far the way HV is applied to the foam isn't important if it is continuous DC.
There is no power drain on the HV PS.

If you build one, turn the lights out while it is running. When I'm pulsing the TL above 6kHz there is a weak fluorescent blue glow on the foam.

Nifty, if no good for anything else  ;D

Seems I'm good at building party tricks....

BTW: When I was a GI if you said BEMF & CEMF were the same thing you would be peeling potatoes for a week.


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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 01:30:41 AM »
As for pulse width, would the delay time of a diode, switching off due to reverse bias, be short enough?

Yes. You must know the trick with putting a reversed diode on the gate or base? Don't tell anyone about that. They will think your design is wrong and a dead short.

I need <1ns. I may need to rely on cross induction but the power levels from that are very small.
(Perpendicular induction.... the only time current is induced is while the mag field is crossing the thickness of the conductor)
 

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 04:15:14 PM »
Ok.

Steady state HV DC is worthless on the dielectric.

Going with F1 applied to the TL, F2 applied to the dielectric = bidirectional output, sometimes nulling the output.

F1 applied to the TL, F3 applied to the dielectric = no nulling and possible unidirectional output.

Where the HV is applied does make a difference - not sure what is best right now.

If this is a puzzle piece it is one of many.

I'll be out of my bench misery soon. On a plane to BF Egypt Sunday night for a long vacation from the bench  :(

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2009, 01:31:17 AM »
@Loner

It is time. I feel a need to ask. What could this be used for? At this point I am sure enough it is happening to step back and try to see the whole picture.

You see, the low frequency issue is not an issue for me. I've explained this many times over the last couple of years (this forum). I've aided three people from this forum in solving the problem. Recently I've spilled the entire method openly on this forum.

The solution is not difficult and is already used in military and commercial communication systems.

Ever wonder why SM was said to have 'trimmed' a wire to tune a TPU?
It is completely possible if that collector wire was actually an open ended transmission line.

I have a good idea where this method could be applied but those ideas are all things that would be hard to believe by those 'skilled in the art'.

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 01:06:58 AM »
I'll open up, all the way, as soon as I can prove anything.  No use in me adding my speculative garbage to good detailed and useful information.

Why? I don't wait  ;D

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 12:14:20 AM »
It's good to see you guys posting again in this remote area of the forum.
I'm still checking this forum once in a while (every month or so) but haven't posted anything until today, in the NEWS section.  The new photos from NASA peaked my interest. I haven't done any toroid experiments either, but will soon once I fix a few more things around the house. Lot's of projects with this new home we bought.
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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009, 03:14:13 AM »
Just checking who else posts here.   I'm thinking this area might serve a critical need after all.  I'm getting tired of all the delusional posters "out there"  (I hope I'm not delusional enough to think they are...  LOL)
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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2009, 03:44:24 AM »
Just checking who else posts here.   I'm thinking this area might serve a critical need after all.  I'm getting tired of all the delusional posters "out there"  (I hope I'm not delusional enough to think they are...  LOL)
EM

I'm looking forward to a decrease in my travels after the new year. I will be continuing my previous experiments and posting in this area.  The work and results are real but a bit over 99% at OU.

BEP

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Re: Possible reason for unexpected pulses (Kick?)
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2015, 07:00:51 PM »
Air coils don't produce inductive kick. It sounds like you are starting to get longitudal bursts and it might be a good time to move your project into the bottom of of a gravel pit somewhere.As far as it goes if you are starting to melt wire you are probably one of the leaders of the pack in here.