This is more along the lines of what I was referring.

in a bit I will take a picture of some of my samples and post it, I will see about making a 'short sample' of the belt I am talking about because all my samples are small squares and not of long lengths.

you can have custom weaves done, all the Kevlar, Glass, Carbon mix variety weaves I have are diagonal and not linear horizontal weaves. the only ones I have with linear weaves are the non mix weave types, I will have to get some linear samples of mix types.

Jerry

A Van De Graff generator produces static electricity through friction.
It's not collecting the electrons from the atmosphere it's producing them from friction.
It's like rubbing your feet across a carpet and then touching a door nob.
Van De Graff generators work best when the atmosphere is very dry,
because moisture in the air discharges some of the charge built up.
As 2 insulating materials are passed by each other in close proximity electrons get knocked off.
These electrons can then be collected using a form of capacitor.
The metal dome of the generator acts as a capacitor and collects this charge.
The initial charge applied to the belt acts as a polarizing charge to align the electrons. 
The charged belt acts something like an electret. (Electrets are something worth investigating further)

Of coarse some of the charge developed will come from the atmosphere but the bulk of the charge,
comes from electrons that where knocked off the belt. 
The same thing happens when 2 conductors pass each other in close proximity but the charge developed,
is immediately discharged again by the conductors to produce heat.
An insulator holds this charge just like the insulator of a capacitor holds the charge applied to the capacitor.

More or less that almost looks like a cap with the sandwich of different materials ...

Or at least the diagrams I have seen of them rather interesting choice.

More or less that almost looks like a cap with the sandwich of different materials ...

Or at least the diagrams I have seen of them rather interesting choice.

Hi infringer.

I have a whole lot of ideas in my thick skull I am just waiting to try. I will see about getting some linear horizontal weaves of long lengths so I can make the first test bed belt, don't know when yet.

Jerry

More or less that almost looks like a cap with the sandwich of different materials ...

Or at least the diagrams I have seen of them rather interesting choice.

The Testatika generator by Methernitha is another example of specially constructed capacitors.  I think only Methernitha knows what went the making of those caps.

Just a thought?  Can semiconductors like carbon be used in capacitors?  They're usually made of alternating layers of a matal and a nonconductor.

--Lee

Just a thought?  Can semiconductors like carbon be used in capacitors?  They're usually made of alternating layers of a matal and a nonconductor.

--Lee

Hi Big M.

Yes, they are called Ultra-Capacitors, they use Carbons high Surface area to store electrical charge to much higher densities.

just do a google on Ultra Capacitors, you shouldn't have a problem find out lots of info.

Jerry

Clara Listensprechen said:

Where can I find on this board any discussion of Van De Graff?  Danged if I don't zap myself with kilovolts everytime my shoes shuffle across the rug. Anybody else besides me think that the Van De Graff and the 2N3055 oughta get married? Discuss.

@Clara...
Okay, as a patent, this comes fairly close, I think, especially in voltage levels:

#7,235,945
Energy Conversion Systems

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=92OAAAAAEBAJ&dq=patent:7235945&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=

And with this particular design, I think the 2N3055 would be unnecessary.  Mere diodes should do the trick.  Fig. 14 of the patent has an embodiment I like.

--Lee