according to Tesla the upper limit is around 30 khz,it need to suppress EM radiation

@ barouto

  From what I could put together, SR didn't really call TK a "charlatan" - this seems a translation error. It appears he said "babbler" (a slang word in Russian as in other languages) meaning that he likes to talk a lot, but not in the sense of talking the false or to discredit if you see what I mean.

  Regarding the clamp meter readings of TK's video I still think the output is not a clean sine: the output could be a composition/superimposition of a modulated (damped) wave train as was suggested in some russian forum (which would be filtered by the clamp meter resulting in a readable sine, being a low pass filter). Some analysed the SG sequence (honestly, digitising a VHS footage to avi from 25fps to 30 messes with the original sync so I don't know how they are certain about this) and said it is a "train" of impulses @50/60Hz possibly triggered by an oscillator inside the green box. They even made a schematic showing a sort of rotary SG inside the box at some point.
  Some other russian (tiger2007) is showing some interesting replication attempt which left me slightly baffled though I have been unable to properly translate the footage to understand his basic steps.

   Naturally I take everything with a grain of salt. I try to analyse and correlate and discuss (unfortunately for now I have no possibility to use my lab or instrumentation). At first it appeared that the 2 devices were really different, but now I think their basic modus operandi is similar if not identical (they access the same "source" at a certain frequency o harmonic thereof).

  I think you have put in a lot of effort and experimenting (as others) and I see you have been onto this subject for several months on various sites/portals trying to get more information - keep up the good work. This of course goes to everyone, we must keep the spirit high and collaborate constructively!

WattsUp,  Can you please post some information so we can duplicate what you are doing?

Thanks.

At this point, we have to define a basic setup which everyone can use to scan this frequency or frequencies in order to have a basic point of reference. A basic circuit, possibly with a 555 signal generator which drives a push-pull and an accepted coil setup with ferrite core. The ground/earth reference or "plug" is a must, as we all should know by now. An ordinary filament lamp may be connected to the output or a scope (more sensitive).

Attached is a shot of the schematic shown by tiger2007 and below are links to the footages fyi - unfortunately I have no translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbthvNiOpL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GePFRnaan00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spHgKf_Bx6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1fcXR5Qj9Q

Additionally, this is another setup by a Bulgarian guy named "coke2k" worth investigating (barouto you know this already too):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0LilR-bWV0

@exnihili,

If you study Tesla, you will understand that the man always wanted to substitute the AC current transmiting infrastructure with natural media. One wire electricity that HF currents offer fit for the job.

One of his first patents (the one you indicated) for that purpose, conceptualized the use of HV potential of his oscillators for ionizing the thick air till the conductive ionosfere and then the circuits to communicate with each other. For that purpose he suggested the transmiting/receiving towers to be located at elevated places as high as 4Km or more for breaking the air till ionosfere with ease.

Of course this plan, no matter how smart was considerably difficult to attain and "useless" in a sense. Tesla did not give up. He knew that his oscillators in their course charging/discharging their top-capacity produce an alternating current in and out of the earth.  (like a pump in the surface of a lake)
In colorado springs he had one oscillator (of considerable power thought 50Kw +) to work firmly grounded and another as far as a mile away to be able to light bulbs. Obviously the coumpling between them could not be inductive since the distance prohibits it, neither capacitative.
The ground was energized, and connecting the receiving oscillator, it simply draw power from source.

Again this procedure had its losses. Tesla observed in July 1899 (and still officially unconfirmed) that instead of imposing a random electrical oscillation to the ground that diminished with distance, the earth "supports" certain frequencies that put the whole earth in a resonant mode and letting the power injected unaffected. Tesla argued (Tesla said) in an article that he managed to enforce an electrical oscillation to the whole planet and maintaining it with as little at 5-10 HP expences as long as any receiver was not at work.

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My view is that Tesla, never described any experiment with inaccuracy or lie. Perhaps he has said a lot of theoretics and potential things science could perform, but upon describing his work was very punctual.
IMO, still that to be the case, the power transmiting through earth is of no value since anyone could intercept it (in sea or land anywhere on globe) and exploit it without paying or unsensibly.

ps: I have described the above concept  more than once and i ask to be escused. It must be noted Tesla never said in that setup anything about OU. He aknowledged on the contrary that those systems include losses but by keeping resonce at low frequencies the EM antenna "Hertzian" losses are restricted and effciency of transmitting source and receivers could be as high as 97% (Tesla said).

WattsUp,  Can you please post some information so we can duplicate what you are doing? Thanks.

@FatBird

What I am doing now is only exploratory but once I have something really worth while don't worry, I will draw it and post it.

@baroutologos

Regarding the isolated standing box, I agree it will be more subject to all the conservation laws.

There is more then frequency, you need the right width so the circuit does not over-saturate and kill itself before it even starts. Some effects only work at 10%, others at 30% or 60%. Without such flexibility in experimenting, you could have brushed right close to a good effect but seen none, so the chance is gone.

For low voltage/amperage pulsing I use my trusty 20mhz HP pulse generator that lets me quickly find hot spots but only at low impulse up to 16vdc at mA's. I still want two more for frequency mixing. For higher stresses I use this and my power supply or battery via one or more mosfets. 

What I want now is to make a spark gap that I can control the frequency and the width and the voltage. This is where it will get even more interesting.

In the TK device, what is somewhat perplexing is why did he need his inverter.

He goes from 12vdc, into an inverter that outputs 220vac before the two white wires enter the green box. Now 220vac is serious business since it can develop some good amperage levels if required. If he was using that 220vac to input into a neon ballast to produce his higher voltage to the spark gap, I don't think he needed that much amperage to produce it. The spark gap is fine and quiet and for me this means it is at a pretty high enough frequency. That frequency is probably being controlled by his two scrs on the top of the green box. Since he already has 220vac available for his neon ballast that requires a feed of AC, this means much less circuitry is required so I think those two scrs are used to then pulse the high voltage to the spark gap. From there he is probably feeding off one side of the spark gap into his special transformer.

He was pointing to Teslas' pancake coil and we know such a coil will offer more capacitive action so if his transformer was wound in bifilar mode and not just one or two single wire layers, this could offer him more capacitive action and also by doing so the transformer would become a good buffer zone between the spark gap and the bulbs. Now he only needs one positive lead from his transformer to go to the bulbs with the right potential attributes to light them up with that grounded wire on the other side.

Now if you remove all the "extracurricular activities" from TK's setup, you are basically left with a spark gap, a specially wound transformer, five bulbs and an Earth ground. Those are the real R&D points.

I can also say that by the way the green box was easily lifted by his counterparts, that box did not contain a load of batteries.

So if one side of the bulb is on negative then the free side has to go to positive, right. If TK's transformer coil has only one in and one out, for the out to be a positive potential, the wire coming from the green box to the transformer has to be a positive? Or is it a negative? The problem at that point is - will the transformer act like a transformer or will it just act like a fancily wound single wire? So both polarities will have to be tested off the spark gap sides.

Just keep in mind that the whole reason for all the gizmos he used was to ultimately build a supply "loop" of which only a positive potential is sensed to a bulb that is Earth grounded. Nothing more, nothing less.

If this works, then it will be because it is not regulated by conservation theory due to it being an open system. It will also show that electricity does not travel but is simply "spin convenyance". Give a wire the right spin conveyance regardless of being two separate sources and the bulb will light up. lol

So..... you can have a device that is only perfectly unity 1:1 running in a loop with no loss and no gain and because you just draw on the positive side you are enjoying the spin effect but not spending in the overhead. I think this is how his device works.

SR193 just took away the inverter and produced his high voltage for his spark gap with a pulsed dc into some capacitor discharged before the gap. If he was producing AC from his DC input he would have required four mosfets like an H-Bridge. Then the rest of it is how to re-condense the high voltage spark back to a suitable positive potential for his bulb.

Can I just get one major point across. You absolutely need an Earth ground on one side of the bulb or load you are driving. Then play with the positive side only.

I have done some tests last night with my 0 awg wire going to my house piping. By the way, my house piping comes in as 3/4" thick copper type but it stops there after into plastic piping so the house is not creating an effect and there are no other devices grounded to the piping.

My main comparison is the tests I had done in my "pulsing coils and lighting leds" videos. I have not seen so much performance on the leds with only my positive going from my pulse generator, no negative. Just that one wire and the other side going to Earth ground. I hit a major effect at around 2100 hertz.

I cannot say it more directly. All experiments should include a Earth ground to one side of the bulb or led or load. I will try this again during the weekend but this time with a real bulb and  a mosfet through my power supply to find the right frequency-width. This is not as complicated as it seems.

Also, there is not much more to see in the TK video. I also have the annotated SR youtube video now transferred to AVI format so I will use VirtualDubMod to try and make a real wiring diagram of his set-up. He was very generous with the videoing angles so I can get in real close.

But Earth ground on one side of the load is the prerequisite starting point otherwise you will be working with the wrong final effect.

Hey Watts, Ive been reading all over the place including the Russian forums for the last couple of months tiring to get up to speed. I remember reading somewhere TK saying that he can now do it with out any ground.... My 2 cents

PS. I do believe this is a NEW CLEVERLY DISGUISED, use of a HAIRPIN L2 with L3 and L4 as SECONDARYS.... I'm working on it ....