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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16504310 times)

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4680 on: November 27, 2010, 05:18:27 PM »
Notice one interesting thing - in Don Smith circuit output from priamry coil is negative HV. Is that possible to obtain such from car ignition coil ?
Is there a way to measure the length of wire inside car coil by using a signal generator and a scope ? it is needed to create primary coil length match exactly 1/4 of input wavelength. The rest seems easy.

baroutologos

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« Reply #4681 on: November 27, 2010, 10:24:13 PM »
@ energie,

I have been thought about this. Actually i have developed a thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5392-ground-based-energy-systems.html
in energeticforum.com about the possibility of extracting energy from earth via resonance.

The point is to be there energy to be extracted, in oscillating current mode of considerable "voltage".
Assuming that eath's telluric currents hum max at 500Khz frequency, then it will be a matter of design in how to tap them effectively.

Unfortunately, we have not any indication that the earth's currents are in this frequency range and are "strong" enough for achieving meaningfull magnification via resonance. (and power extraction consequently)

By the way, it requires some investigation to see it yourself

forest

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« Reply #4682 on: November 27, 2010, 10:51:12 PM »
it's not about telluric currents at all, those are only remnants of real power
because if Earth rotate in own static magnetic field then every metal would have free electrons at high potential=high electric pressure but we would be unable to see them

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« Reply #4683 on: November 27, 2010, 11:10:59 PM »
@iwd and @groundloop

Will a 555 timer circuit running the ignition coil work?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4684 on: November 28, 2010, 02:12:17 AM »
yes in sense of creating high tension spikes whicih will discharge from ignition coil to the primary, but you can go with it only to letsay about 100khz or lower, because you need to keep pulses enough long, to create enough large spikes, inductive reactance of primary ignition coil will not let flow more curent for particular(shorter) pulse lenght. And next,...for that frequency is hard to create secondary resonant coil without conecting paraller capacitor. Of course, you can wind a bifilar coil, which can have resonant frequency about 100khz with no problem. But then forget to have wire lenght of 1/4 lambda. And ...these resonant HV transformers seems works best, when use earth capacity more than capacity betwen turns, or classicaly connected capacitor. But that all does not matter, because without capacitor discharge, you will not have needed current on primary. No magneticaly field, and thus that, you will do better, when you directly place a antene, or just some foil around secondary, and feed the secondary only by capacitive coupling. Like this:

http://www.google.cz/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CD0QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D7669.0%3Battach%3D36608&rct=j&q=capacitive%20transformer%20testatika&ei=7bLxTKyICYztOa_HuZsK&usg=AFQjCNGSWqikCoHRIZGRtwYUD0TOJSWz5g&cad=rja
« Last Edit: November 28, 2010, 02:41:50 AM by IWD »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4685 on: November 28, 2010, 04:12:27 AM »
@ energie,

I have been thought about this. Actually i have developed a thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5392-ground-based-energy-systems.html
in energeticforum.com about the possibility of extracting energy from earth via resonance.

The point is to be there energy to be extracted, in oscillating current mode of considerable "voltage".
Assuming that eath's telluric currents hum max at 500Khz frequency, then it will be a matter of design in how to tap them effectively.

Unfortunately, we have not any indication that the earth's currents are in this frequency range and are "strong" enough for achieving meaningfull magnification via resonance. (and power extraction consequently)

By the way, it requires some investigation to see it yourself
Thank you Bart,
i will continue to explore, and now in high voltage, because my previous experiments were all low voltage, 0.4 volt input,   now i will require more than 3000 volt and im building the powerful signal generator for making the same setup with 500khz,  i shall see interresting results,  i will explore and explore may be i will quiten now because im too tired, will return with fresh things to show you soon,
Thank y

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« Reply #4686 on: November 28, 2010, 12:46:30 PM »
@barautologos - I checked out your thread and I believe the direction is correct and I wanted to point out a few things that were also pointed out by amigo. Tesla's wireless system was based on several concepts which I see many misunderstand or misinterpret still today - but this is off topic. In the case of ground power transmission he used the earth as a one wire conductor. He wanted to pump the pulses from the Wardenclyffe in the earth at it's resonating frequency (he said in an article that wavelengths of 6000meters were acceptable and 12000 meters would be ideal (50 and 25kHz) so these could be picked up in any place with the equivalent equipment. He wasn't mentioning any OU but very high efficiency (enough to keep the oscillations running and cover the losses). However Tesla also stumbled onto some additional discoveries (after Colorado Springs) which he mostly cryptically mentioned in his various articles, interviews (new use for iron, self acting oscillator etc) and especially announcements. These are the ones that most interest me and which I have tried to correlate for the last decade - it appears easy, but I assure you it's not, especially with the different views and opinions "modern science" (that is after 1930) offers. The wireless power system Tesla "officially" offered was alternative to the ordinary wire system and cheaper as already pointed out but this is not related to this research. What is, is his let's say "electrostatic" research that interested the later part of his life which is what is evidently (re)emerging lately with these experiments. It is the combination of HV coils and charge induction or transfer or "electro kinetic" effects as sigma put it that must be investigated. The way I see it is that we must use this effect to leverage a natural law for our advantage (create a "sink" for these currents to rush in etc) however I am not sure that telluric currents are really enough for these effects though they may be involved.

   I must however suggest to everyone the Tesla article collection by Ratzlaff called "Tesla said".

  Good effort everyone!

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« Reply #4687 on: November 28, 2010, 04:36:32 PM »
Thank you @iwd!

The pdf file was blocked by my machine's defense. But I could download it today. It is on the list of pdfs to read now.

By the way I found on a sidewalk five flyback transformers. None of them are equaly configured. I mean the flybacks say different things for the same pin number.

Eventually I will catch it. I just need two of them to work in order to make a test on feed back.

Jesus

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4688 on: November 28, 2010, 06:46:00 PM »
@ Icewellwer,

I am not familiar with Tesla's work on electostatics, but i can understand wireless power transmision via earth.
I fully agree with you, the Low frequency typical 20 or 40Khz will limit the Hertzian EM losses. Moreover an arbitrary choosen ground projection frequency will not go very far. As Tesla repeatedly said, there are frequencies that the earth "responds".

He argued in one of "Tesla Said" articles that he can maintain a huge oscillation of earth's potential at the expense of few horsepower losses at the correct frequency.
I do not take those words as misinterpretation. Making a HF oscillator that excites the earth and hence transmits energy with little losses worldwide is a possibility for me. No OU there btw as Tesla said.

The point is, HOW you can know who is draining power? Your destined clients or your rivals? A global energy transmision systems, even perfectly made and unless energy is for free, will not work ever. All will intercept and steal the power projected. Plain and simple.

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The point is what if the earth creates electricity of herself that Tesla has not discovered. At what frequencies? (Telluric currents)


This research is well beyond my present capabilities.

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« Reply #4689 on: November 28, 2010, 07:02:51 PM »
Tesla was working on small portable receivers in his apt lab in his last days, that didnt require a transmitter.

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« Reply #4690 on: November 28, 2010, 08:31:11 PM »
I think we should return back to the basic questions about Earth.
Do you really believe that Earth is producing magnetic field opposing Sun solar wind simply by rotation of core ? Then how we can explain the rotation ?
However  if magnetosphere is a byproduct of Sun and Cosmic current then Earth is a generator - a metal ball in insulated space connected to the electric circuit.
Then everything seems to match - small magnetic field is a reason for rotation and while rotating giant magnetic field is generated opposing external electric current.
Newton's third law. I'm sure somebody can explain it better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2f6RD1hT6Q

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« Reply #4691 on: November 28, 2010, 10:22:09 PM »
@ Cosmo,

Let me know if i am correct so far.

1) Ferrite core is needed.
2) HV Transformer with and output of approximately 4000VAC @ 21-35KHz
3) Spark Gap is needed
4) Internal coil placed within the ferrite core

I am having issues with the coil configurations on the ferrite core, and is there a possible use of relays for some kind of delay and why?

could u give some possible hints on how to configure the coils on the ferrite core with respect to orientation (CW, CCW) and number of turns.

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« Reply #4692 on: November 28, 2010, 10:28:56 PM »
This is a great forum, everyone working together to achieve some greater purpose. Trying to create solutions. Although i am new, i am glad to be a member!

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« Reply #4693 on: November 29, 2010, 10:52:06 AM »
@ baroutologos - agreed that Tesla's wireless power transmission system would be a commercial nightmare (one of the major reasons JP Morgan cut his fundings) there are other sides of his findings that have not fully emerged. As I said, the self acting oscillator and homopolar generator give us some hints. Then we have his Dynamic Theory of Gravity and his Primary/Secondary Solar Rays which are major points and still mostly not considered or discarded as a source of Energy (officially).

  Reconnecting to what forest just said, plasma physicist Hannes Alfven (nobel) supports what Tesla explained and that "giant frozen magnetic lines of force" from the sun to the earth (and to all other planets) form a "circuit" which create it's electrical condition and subsequent field and core motion (http://www.catastrophism.com/texts/electricity-in-space/).
  All this very powerful electrical activity is around us - are we to believe there is no way to tap into this resource more efficiently? I believe there is more than one way. Tesla discovered that storms form electrical standing waves while in Colorado Springs and this was a major step in his research, not only for his Wardenclyffe project. Earth behaves like a charged sphere moving through space with it's consequent electrical and magnetic field - why not tap into this abundant energy? So it must be possible, through some "sympathic" frequency (for less of a better term) to collect some of these available currents. Is Tariel's (like possiby others) device accessing these currents through the earth? What are the frequency ranges? Why did Tesla mention (micro) waves emitted from the earth at some point which he discovered using his partially evacuated tubes? All these and other questions continuously drive my interest and I feel they are all connected to an abundant source of (occulted) energy.

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« Reply #4694 on: November 29, 2010, 11:26:44 AM »
@above,

AMEN my friend. If the surrounding macro environment creates waves (standing or not) of considerable frequency then there should a way to tap them i guess.
Waves by definition are energy. Either ocean or electrical ones.

Can you suggest any way, to scan through earth frequencies, some how to discriminate from EM frequencies, and suggest "earth channels" ?

Any apparatus in order to measure that must have a "ground" reference. :)
Since the ground we are investigating, we must have another reference. The only one i can think of is an air-terminal capacity. e.g. an elevated metal ball. (Tesla like)

The huge problem would be in identifying which electrial propagation is coming from earth (ground) to air terminal (capacity) and which from human or natural EM radiation, becoming electricity in the metal terminal. (acting as an antenna)

Notice, EM radiation can deliver as much energy as its its intensity and the intercepting medium size (antenna or metal terminal in this example) Whereas the ground, being as a single conductor can deliver huge large amounts of energy via "one wire principle" depending on resonance parameters