@ marco,

Take a neodinium magnet before it is magnetized and after? What's the difference between the two? They are both the same but yet very different, one does work the other doesn't. A magnet is full of energy and it is kinetic.


Take care,

Michel

So your statement is that neo's are full of energy....

Got some proof?


Marco.

Michelinho,

Average for me is most of the people you see around that watch Fox news and believe everything said.

 I too see a lot of that but when two or more get together with open minds, true common sense can be found and agreed upon, provided the two or group has enough life experience to so.

 This is why I started this tread.

 -[marco]-, 

How can you even make such a statement?

You do not know what i can and cannot prove.

I can and i will prove you wrong.

 Lets just start with the fact that magnets do contain energy. Let me prove that by having you place two iron core substances about one inch away from each other and record the affect. Then place one iron core substance about one inch away from a magnet and record the affect. You will find that there was no affect between the two iron core substances but there was between the magnet and the iron core substance. That is because the magnet was attracted to the iron core substance and therefore drew its self to it and therefore doing work. The work that was done was made possible due to the energy that is stored in the magnet and the energy that is stored in the iron core substance. The only difference in the iron core substance and the magnet is that the magnet contains a energy that flows in two different directions and the iron core substance's energy only flows in one direction.

 Now lets hear how you can prove me wrong.

GeoscienceStud, "Wind comes from higher pressure moving to replace lower pressure that occurs due to the air being heated from the sun (convection).  An energy input from the sun."

 Lets talk about pressure for minute. What is pressure? What is heat?

 They are both just a mass of vibrations that become what they are by being applied to a resistance. They both contain the other. Heat contains pressure and pressure contains heat because they are both the same and the only thing that makes them different is their vibrancy and or the resistance they encounter. You can not have pressure with out having heat and you can not have heat with out having a pressure.

You missed the point.  The whole thing is started by the energy from the sun, an input.  And in this case of wind, the lower pressure is due to convection (caused by heat from the sun) causing the air to rise and the pressure of the area is reduced, thus decreased pressure.  The air then cools as it rises and  is then unable to hold the water in it causing it to release that water and it rains.  The higher pressure is caused by the air being cooler and thus causes it to fall.  Directions of the winds are due to Corialis effect.
 This does not mean that temperature and pressure are inversely proportionate, they are proportionate.  But this is due to that cold are becomes more dense and is heavier, thus falls.  Hot air is less dense and lighter thus rises.
The wind is not occuring because it is energy, necessarily, but because of the EFFECT of energy.  Just like the computer is not energy itself.  It is working because the effect of energy.  The baseball does not move towards the batter because it IS energy.  It is because of the force behind it of what threw it.  The magnets are made because of a force of energy behind it.  It takes energy to make the magnets to begin with.  It takes energy to make the dynamo effect magnetic fields of the Earth.  They did not just appear there out of nowhere.  Energy cannot be created nor destroyed it is basically  a form of plasma that is the 4th state of matter.  But to harness energy you have to understand the laws of thermodynamics. 

Hang in there, it will eventually come if you keep educating yourself.  I know this is difficult to grasp, because when you look at chemistry, and kinetic energy, it just looks like we aught to be able to grab that energy.  But processes have to be applied. 

GeoscienceStudent,

"You missed the point.  The whole thing is started by the energy from the sun, an input.  And please don't call me a stud. Thankyou."

 LOL, sorry about that, I must not have copied all of your user name when I copied and pasted it.

 As for the misunderstanding. that may be.

 I have to go leave right now but I will review your post later to see if I missed something.
 

The "two great discoveries" to which Tesla referred, were:

1. The Dynamic Theory of Gravity - which assumed a field of force which accounts for the motions of bodies in space; assumption of this field of force dispenses with the concept of space curvature (ala Einstein); the ether has an indispensable function in the phenomena (of universal gravity, inertia, momentum, and movement of heavenly bodies, as well as all atomic and molecular matter); and,

2. Environmental Energy - the Discovery of a new physical Truth: there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment.  

Hmm.  Marco is correct.

GeoscienceStudent, after reviewing your comments a bit better, I came to the conclusion that you get your education from books.

"But this is due to that cold are becomes more dense and is heavier, thus falls.  Hot air is less dense and lighter thus rises."

 That is a classic text book statement and it is wrong and I will explain why later.

"Energy cannot be created nor destroyed it is basically  a form of plasma that is the 4th state of matter."

 That again is a classic text book statement and again it is wrong and I will also explain why that is later.

@marco,

Got some proof?

Yes, I have, from the works of Howard Johnson and countless others on magnetic vortices and through experimentation, found a proof that satisfy me.

Your reality may differ from mine. I don't know if you studied magnetic vortex but your answer lies there. A vortex cannot be static and the particles (Joseph Newman) forming them cannot be static. All energy is kinetic for me. A magnet that is magnetized is set in a state of imbalance, the North pole project a strong North vortex and a weak South vortex, the South pole project a strong North vortex and a stronger South vortex. From there you will see that the North pole is better suited for repulsion and the South pole is better suited for attraction.

I hope this clarify what I believe is happening.

Take care,

Michel

-[marco]-, "The magnets only create this effect in space they are NOT the source of this energy."

 I never said magnets were the source of energy but I did say that they contain energy.  You said that they don’t contain energy and the simple experiment I told you to try proves it.

 Now it is your turn to prove me wrong.

No it does not.

In fact this experiment doesn't tell you anything about the orgin of this energy.

And you still did not prove anything.

Are you going to keep writing or are you going to show something because now i think i am indeed wasting my time.

Marco.