Quote from: pinoyz on January 10, 2008, 07:05:42 AM

Quote from: oak on January 10, 2008, 06:40:52 AM

Hi pinoyz.  I don't have the expertise to know whether that theory is plausible.  I do know that alsetalokin is interested in ruling out all possible artificial causes of the acceleration.  Have you tried to post the idea in one of the Steorn forum threads, where he is active?  Or if you can't post there, would you like for me to post it there?

  Oak

ETA:  I will note that alsetalokin did say he got the device running in two different locations -- where he lives, and in the lab where he works.

I also read Steorn forum threads too many discusion there, so read only the coment of alsetalokin. I read one of his post about his lamp, but now icant find that coz too many post. so is he say run the device in his home and lab, did he mention what lamp he using? in that 2 location..
But anyway, if it is running using external energy or run by itself is stil great invention, a compact of this can power handheld device, dont you think.......
Hope replicator's succeed.......

Pinoyz, I just posted the following there:

Hi Alsetalokin. On the overunity.com forum, a suggestion was made that perhaps the florescent lighting?s transformer ? which can be heard in the video ? is a source of external energy feeding the device.
I don't have the expertise to know whether that theory is plausible, but am curious what you think of it.
You did say, if I recall correctly, that you were able to get the device running both at your home and in the lab where you work. Do both locations have similar lighting?
Thanks very much.

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60132&page=14#Item_3
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It seems pretty quiet in the forum right now, and it's 2:30 a.m. for Alsetalokin (he's somewhere in eastern Canada), so he may not answer for several hours.

Thank you for posting it.. with correct grammar  it just not good in english 

@Replicator's
     If you tried it and it don't work then you can try the above theory...just addition for you to test....
@Omnibus
     I hope it will work w/out external energy..since its unique to other PM coz he using aluminum, and much more interesting than other PM motor

Relax. I think he only tried it at two locations.

That was the reason I decided to leave the Steorn forum to not get accused that he disappeared because of me.

You decided to leave because you were banned for being an arrogant prick and couldn't post anymore.  Perhaps nobody would bother posting that about you if you didn't lie about it or mention it at all.  That little badge of honour at the top of your profile belies nothing (and is reasonably difficult to earn):

http://www.steorn.com/forum/account.php?u=13411

At steorn you plagued the threads; here I'm trying to read what genuine replicators are working on and here you plague the threads.  I suspect you are waiting to pounce on the first successful replication so you can publish it everywhere and claim that your theories were right and you are vindicated and it couldn't have happened without you.

some great looking replicas here well done ! The original video was interesting. However being the skeptic that I am I'm going to stand by and say I think this will never work.

firstly I think it is too simple (not to say simple ideas are often the best)
secondly I think the acceleration is too fast in the video to be natural process as suggested
(I think there was a small DC motor under the rotor).
Lastly It wouldn't be difficult for the original maker to give exact specifications considering it is so simple and he hasn't. I mean a damn kitchen scale and ruler would do the job.

spacing, weight, friction, magnetic strength, (which DC motor is used ) there are too many variables. The idea of energy coming from the light is a bit far fetched unless he built a wireless power receiver unit under the rotor.

sorry about the negativity but being a engineering researcher no matter how interested I am in this topic and do believe that we can learn more still.

This is one idea that unfortunately is a little to good to be true, sorry for the bad grammar and the rambling. I do wish you all the best of luck with the replications, even if it only proves this is a fraud. fingers crossed it isn't for all our sakes.

I was reading through alsetalonkin's posts last night on the Steorn forum, and I thought I was picking up hints from him that static electricity may have something(maybe everything?) to do with the operation of the unit.

Al seems to be quite an expert on building electro-static machines, and mentioned having a set of videos on youtube demonstrating some of his machines (including some corona motors), which he says he took down after the uproar started with this video. He mentioned that it would not be far fetched at all to have a simple flick of the wrist or two generate a very large charge that would keep a motor spinning for a very long time.

Just something to think about.

Hi Al,

Is this in effect a protracted smot ramp? basically climbing until it reaches equilibrium? That would explain the acceleration and many other attributes displayed. If you will... imagine a ball moving up a smot ramp with a harness pulling a cog that is turning a gear that rotates the wheel. I may be wrong in so many ways but it just came to mind and I thought I might ask.

Cheers,

Dean

@pablo escobar

Weird, I just want to post these questions No. 1,2 dan 3 to Steorn forum while I'm waiting for approval of my signup...

Good Luck Dusty!

I think the WhipMag designation is a little to esoteric.

If Dusty is successful, I respectfully petition to call it the Magnetic Flux Capacitor, or just the Flux Capacitor for short, in honor of AL's insistence that this isn't OU, but is just a novel form of something else, like energy storage....  "Back to the Future" comes to mind.

In addition, does anyone know if AL tried the following?

1.Attempt to  spin the other stators antigearwise instead of stopping them?
2.  Remove one or both of the stalled stators while the device is in sync?
3.  Add other stators to the system? Does it only work with the three?
4.  Instead of using the judsen dampers, increase the load on the rotor with weight or the RC prop?


And if the replicators are successful, as a woo woo piece of experimentation, I suggest adding to the rotor system high temperature superconductors.  Spinning superconductors in a magnetic field are theorized to exhibit anti-gravity properties.

If anyone wants to edit and or repost this on Stoern, be my guest.

PE

If it does work (and I hope it does as I have allready ordered magnets myself) would it  not be possible to test if it can pproduce work by place a set of coils over the top of the device.

It is quite likely that coils will affect the magnetic fields involved, this is why I suggested in another post replacing the dampers with a coil and a load attached, this would give both damping effect and enable load measurement.