Remember what Tesla said of Edison

"His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90 percent of the labor. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense."   

Remember what I said of the following, "Edison is a long time dead and buried, and yet we remember his inventions that have improved all of our lives.  What will you be remembered for?? Book learning is AWESOME, but it depends,  WHICH BOOKS!!  I have read nearly all of the Greats, legends both recent and distant, and their writings, including Einstein.  If I recall, Einstein wasn't too hip on the common conception of gravity, and came up with a mathematical formula to prove the gravity was a curvature of time and space.  This idea first came to him while looking at a man on a ladder, outside of his window.  Imagine that, ideas through observation.  And then he spent MUCH time finding an astronomer with the proper equiptment to prove out his theory, because he did not have the skills himself."

So, Alchemist123, what will you be remembered for?  Besides trying to discourage a SIMPLE experiment?  It makes me wonder who you are and why you are even here?  What are you worried about if it isn't going to work and of course you know this because you read it in a book.  LOL  If you think that mankind's sum of knowledge is contained in what we know, that is laughable!  In the '70's Nixon nearly shut down the patent office because it was thought that everything that could be invented had been.  How arrogant.  How egotistical.  Knowledge is doubling at unprecedented rates.

I will not let you or others like you discourage others from experimenting, hands on with something you or a book say can not be done!!

If we listened to them, Overunity is impossible, there is no new energy sources, or untapped old ones, so why are we even here?  We should all give up if we followed your logic.  But we are here for new discovery.

P.S.  Also there is a LOT to be said for "American Sense"!


@ ALL

Please see the Pseudo closed loop circuit that Aaron posted at Energetic forum for those with working Lasersaber type coils to experiment with!
Aaron wrote the following:
"Both windings wound in same direction. North at (top - left in pic) of coil
when plus is at same side when switch closes. Can everyone see what is
happening here? It can decrease front side battery draw by 50% easily."


Have a good day,

Bruce

Remember what I said of the following, "Edison is a long time dead and buried, and yet we remember his inventions that have improved all of our lives.  What will you be remembered for?? Book learning is AWESOME, but it depends,  WHICH BOOKS!!  I have read nearly all of the Greats, legends both recent and distant, and their writings, including Einstein.  If I recall, Einstein wasn't too hip on the common conception of gravity, and came up with a mathematical formula to prove the gravity was a curvature of time and space.  This idea first came to him while looking at a man on a ladder, outside of his window.  Imagine that, ideas through observation.  And then he spent MUCH time finding an astronomer with the proper equiptment to prove out his theory, because he did not have the skills himself."

So, Alchemist123, what will you be remembered for?  Besides trying to discourage a SIMPLE experiment?  It makes me wonder who you are and why you are even here?  What are you worried about if it isn't going to work and of course you know this because you read it in a book.  LOL  If you think that mankind's sum of knowledge is contained in what we know, that is laughable!  In the '70's Nixon nearly shut down the patent office because it was thought that everything that could be invented had been.  How arrogant.  How egotistical.  Knowledge is doubling at unprecedented rates.

I will not let you or others like you discourage others from experimenting, hands on with something you or a book say can not be done!!

If we listened to them, Overunity is impossible, there is no new energy sources, or untapped old ones, so why are we even here?  We should all give up if we followed your logic.  But we are here for new discovery.

P.S.  Also there is a LOT to be said for "American Sense"!


@ ALL

Please see the Pseudo closed loop circuit that Aaron posted at Energetic forum for those with working Lasersaber type coils to experiment with!
Aaron wrote the following:
"Both windings wound in same direction. North at (top - left in pic) of coil
when plus is at same side when switch closes. Can everyone see what is
happening here? It can decrease front side battery draw by 50% easily."


Have a good day,

Bruce

Your Ad hominem attacks are funny to say the least.   You have not once provided any proof that your idea will work,  and still have yet to describe  how it could possibly overcome  I^2 x R  losses.     

I am skeptical, but i have never deterred anyone from experimenting with your idea.       I hate seeing modern day Keelys however claiming impossible things from science with no evidence backing up their claims,  delusional at the least dangerous at the worst. 

@all,

I had a little chuckle to myself about the below beautiful sparks, he he  .

Never heard of sparks being beautiful before. 
 You can get visible sparks off a 9 volt battery. You can also have invisible "sparks" or current that isnt hot enough to ionize the air to make it visible. Whats strange to me is that a low voltage spark creates a more intense magnetic field than a higher voltage spark.

Actually, if anyone has the skills and wants to try this, it will show you just how much energy is avaliable in low voltage.
Remove the secondary HI Voltage windings of a MOT, then rewind just the secondary with 3 turns of starter motor cable.

Then if you are game, short out those 3 turns, ha ha, this will show you just how much mega jewels are making beaudifulsparks .

jim

Hi Bruce.
I see you drew your suggested circuit. Thanks, that is great.

I awoke this morning with this drawing in my head.
It is the circuit that Lasersaber is using and the one that I believe NS has described.
Of course, Lasersaber and Lidmotor are so far the only 2 guys who have one of these working so even I cannot call myself an expert. (just persistent and an expert in what has not worked!  )

So, here is what I believe to be the circuit diagram for the NS coil.

jeanna

@all

 I made a quick replication of the coil yesterday , it is giving .600 v but this morning nothing, it comes back when i apply pressure to the coil , you really need to wind those tight ...

Mark

Good evening ALL,

Groundloop spent a great deal of time, making the following diagrams and cleaning up Aaron's circuit drawing, to make it much easier for experimenters to experiment with the feedback/recovery circuit.

THANK YOU Groundloop for your hard work!

Cheers,

Bruce 

Thank you groundloop!
This is a beautiful drawing. It is clear etc.

I am all for the pulse motor with led on secondary.
I also think the motor can be strong.
John Bedini has made strong motors from something like this.

About Aaron's ideas,
I am not ready to enhance my NS coils yet since I have yet to make mine work as described...(but that is coming soon.)

We have not explored what the patent describes, yet.
Of course there are always bunches of folks who like to jump ahead, so this is a great place to experiment, and a great direction. Aaron has spent a lot of time experimenting with these.

Just take the regular joule thief circuit , i would try 2 things connecting the base to either an additional coil or to the core via a diode .

If there is a additional coil connect one end to the positive of the galvanic battery the other to the base of the transistor.

I agree with you Mark.
these are my best bet for the first stage.
I think since we see most of the pictures of these coils in pairs the evidence is strong that they work in pairs.
And, I also prefer the joule thief for my pulse generator.

And besides, I honestly believe that this IS a joule thief with an inherent battery and a mechanical switch.
I kind of want to give Nathan Stubblefield as much honor as I can for making this remarkable invention.

I have mentioned this before and I will now post a fuzzy picture of a joule thief circuit on a breadboard which is using a Stubblefield coil for its magnetic induction.
Another way to say it is this is a stubblefield coil being made to work with a transistor instead of a reed switch.
the light is at the C-E
The secondary produces about 40v

Sorry about the fuzz... 

jeanna

I may have found a supplier for cloth covered wire.  Found a chinese company that said they can supply me with 1500 feet spools of cotton covered galvanized steel wire 20 gauge.  thought why does the copper have to be covered why not the steel .  will post more when i find out more information and actually try to make one of these batteries.