There is a time and place for everything and this fund drive is nearing its end.

How come he still asks for $2,000,000 for any individual to *see* his invention? It's crazy!

So, Navigator, you are not connected with Dante in any way, right?
?Right on the money, Sir!? 
(My English is very poor. Should I say 'Right to the money, Sir'?  )

In fact, this looks more and more like the well-known all-explicative and universe-existential lead-out theory.
It?s marvelous in essence but? infantile in substance and it produces nothing but futile discussions and insults.

I?ve kindly asked Stefan on page 1 of the initial thread ?onegift4power? to mark it as a fraud and I strooongly keep my position day by day, post by post, page by page. There are already ten pages and counting?
Meanwhile, the great Bernoulli is turning around into his grave asking himself wtf is Dante?!

Tinu

Quote from: Navi-gator on August 24, 2007, 01:55:08 AM

There is a time and place for everything and this fund drive is nearing its end.

How come he still asks for $2,000,000 for any individual to *see* his invention? It's crazy!

I said it was nearing its end, only Dante really knows.

Because he has a ME and a Physics professor who both say his powerplants will revolutionize energy as we know it today.

Why would those two put their neck on the line for a scam?

I can think of a few discoveries that were seen in that light prior to being proven fact.

Here is a great discovery of our times: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3086.0/topicseen.html
Read it and tell about it to Dante. Tell him either to patent his idea, if any (which I strongly doubt), or to present it in scientific peer-review or to simply submit it to public scrutiny but stop trying mutilating any great scientist of our history for money, in a day-light huge fraud!

If you can not follow the above thread and still concerned about the oil issue, it?s probably best to take a job in farming and produce your own bio-diesel. It would be much more productive, take my word for it.

Apart for what was already said, the whole story you promote is plain BS and someone should stop this thread asap.
Please, Stefan, take our pain here off!

Tinu

TO PUT THE OVER-UNITY QUESTION TO REST, ONCE AND FOR ALL.  BY DANTE A. DONATELLI JR.
 
Since this thread has been up, dozens and dozens of nay Sayers have answered it.
 
MY statement was, and still is: ?there is no such thing as OVER-UNITY, in any device, machine and especially, NOT in any Power Plant?
 
Now, in as simple of terms as I can, I will explain our ?SOLID-POWER? Technologically designed Power Plants, using simple scientific terms, not the erroneous and unproven one?s that are drudged up from men?s minds!
 
Our  Power Plants  RUN THEMSELVES, with no added fuel, and PROVE, WITHOUT BLOVIATING or USING PHRASE THAT ARE ONLY IN MEN?S MINDS, and have been for centuries, BUT CANNOT BE PROVED, ?over-unity? doesn?t exist, but rather ?OVER-EFFICIENCY? exists!
 
Specifically speaking, the EM-5000 Power Plant ONEGIFT4POWER was given.
 
The EM-500 starts with a 10HP Electric Motor, because according to engineering principles, already proven, a 10HP Electric Motor can run, at full capacity, a 5000 watt Electrical Generator.
 
This 10HP uses 7450 watts of ELECTRICAL ENERGY, (the FIRST (1), energy system of this power plant, followed by four more, as the EM-5000 uses ?5- energy systems within itself.)  This electrical energy is CONVERTED to 5500 foot-pounds of MECHANICAL ENERGY, (2). 
 
THIS IS THE 100% UNITY, OF THIS MOTOR and IN FACT, THE ENTIRE POWER PLANT.  THIS IS all that is needed to start, from a dead stop, the Power Plant. 7450 watts, converted to 5500 foot-pounds!
 
Once the EM -5000  is operating, at full speed, the 10HP motor, has the watts REDUCED to 745 watts, and the converted mechanical energy, as well, is REDUCED to 550 foot-pounds.  NOW, the INPUT of electrical energy is 90% LESS than UNITY!  WE NEVER ADD TO UNITY, ERGO, OVER-UNITY NEVER EXISTS, BUT WE ADD TO THE REDUCED UNITY,? TO BRING ALL,? BACK UP TO UNITY.
 
Understand that WE REDUCE the INPUT ELECTRICAL ENERGY from 100% UNITY to 90% of the 100% UNITY, only 10% of UNITY is being used, and converted once the Power Plant is up to speed!
 
The innovative mechanics we use, and the solid matter object fuel, and the speed we use, ALL, DEVELOP 4950 foot-pounds of our innovative MECHANICAL ENERGY (3), according to the 1807 and 1857 ENERGY discoveries made by old science, not Dante, as ENERGY and POWER CAN BE DEVELOPED, (as one idiot stated that he rolled a ball, and developed energy and power, AND HE WAS RIGHT. A rolling ball can indeed, JUST LIKE A ROLLING AUTOMOBILE, develop energy and power, BUT IT CANNOT BE EXTRACTED, ergo, is a stupid example!)
 
This 4950 foot-pounds, the 90% of UNITY, is added to the 550 foot-pounds, the 10% of UNITY,  ALL in a flywheel, which holds the 100% UNITY of that which this Power Plant needs and uses, (not that the flywheel couldn?t hold more, as the most it could hold, is the 100% of the FLYWHEELS CAPACITY, but not necessarily the 100% of the EM-5000?s capacity.)
 
The flywheel, delivers the  added, sum of the 100% UNITY, 5500 foot-pounds of  common, convertible MECHANICAL ENERGY (4), to the Electrical Generator, which converts it into the 100% UNITY of the OUTPUT, the 5000 watts of ELECTRICAL ENERGY (5), thus completing the ?5- ENERGY SYSTEM of the EM-5000 Power Plant.
 
SO, the 100% UNITY of the OUTPUT, electrical energy of the ELECTRICAL GENERATOR, can in fact deliver the 10% of UNITY the INPUT needs, when running, and have 90% left over to accomplish other electrical energy needed work outside the Power Plant.
 
ANY WAY THIS IS MEASURED or CALCULATED, it works out to be ?OVER-EFFICIENT?, and NEVER ?OVER-UNITY?.
 
100% UNITY in any device, machine or Power Plant, in fact in ANY SCENARIO can NEVER BE MORE THAN 100% of that device, machine, etc.  YES, it can first be reduced, then added to, then back up to 100%, BUT, 100% can NEVER BE ADDED TO.
 
The error is that in ALL the erroneous thinking and erroneous believing,  that if and when they FIND A FREE ENERGY, and claim OVER-UNITY, what is really happening is the FREE ENERGY THEY DISCOVERED, THAT OPERATES THEIR DEVICE(S), IS ACTUAL THE 100% OF THAT FREE ENERGY, AND IF MORE IS USED, THAT and the BEGINNING, is the TOTAL 100% FREE ENERGY USED.
 
UNITY,?100% OF ANYTHING,? CANNOT BE EXCEED,? OR THAT WHICH IS CLAIMED AS OVER-UNITY,? IS IN FACT,?.THE ACTUAL 100% UNITY.
 
NOW, THE BIG QUESTION FOR ALL!
 
CAN YOU RELATE a SCENARIO of any DEVICE, MACHINE or POWER PLANT, USING SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC TERMS and UNITS of MEASUREMENTS - ENERGY and POWER, ANY ENERGY and POWER, WHETHER FREE, REDUCED, DEVELOPED, ADDED, OR EVEN FOUND IN or ON the GROUND, IN the AIR, or EVEN CREATED, THAT YOU OWN or HAVE EVER HEARD OF.
 
OR, ARE YOU STILL GOING TO TELL US, WITH STUPID RHETORIC,  WHY WE ARE WRONG?
 
If NOT, then I AM RIGHT.  PERIOD!
 
There is no such thing as ?OVER-UNITY?.  Period!
 
Dante

Dante,

I was going to stop posting anything further here because it is quite evident that neither can see each other's perspective and make any sense of it.

OK, let's call a truce. In fact, I will concede to you, and you can use whatever terminology you wish; that fact is it does not matter one iota.

You know why? Because to me the meat of the matter in this whole discussion is folks getting hung up on terminology. It's just semantics. The wording is not nearly as important as whether you can produce hardware that operates as you claim.

That IS ALL that really matters.

I do not dispute that you have what you claim or not. Fact is anyone can come forward and say what you have. The proof is in the pudding however. Do you have any proof? Video perhaps?

Engineer reports add credence, but they do not constitute a seal of approval.

So you make a claim of "free energy" or whatever you want to call it...."over-efficiency"....there I said it....I'll probably go to techy hell now...LOL. Good for you, I wish you best of luck with your device and bringing an end to the world's energy problems. When can the world see a demonstration? Why can't we buy one? Will you patent?

Cheers my friend. Relax will ya? There's no reason to be get excited right?

We can all go on our merry ways.

Darren

If there was no over unity, there would be no existence,all through the universe and all of its manifestations leading right to the way the earth manifests which is apart of it.

Looking at the scientific atom, it spins right,what makes that spin?

the earth still spins right - what exactly makes that spin?

to what makes that spin , will lead to the first cause,which would be zillions of years in measurement.

you want to find something that spins that can be converted to electric like a generator right?

well that's your first clue to finding overunity, if you find out why the little circles keep spinning again and again around the big atom, you a little closer to finding overunity.

That is my point.