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Humbugger

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #750 on: September 14, 2007, 06:56:09 AM »
I have asked one very simple and very important question to which no answer is provided in any of the literature referenced.  I am in need of no sympathy. 

Is there any reasonable evidence and, if so, what, to support the idea that the neon circuit will charge a battery more rapidly than the RV discharges an equivalent battery for its driving energy?  That is the question.

I am betting that, when push comes to shove, that it's not even close to charging the secondary battery fast enough to do a swapped self-runner.  Not by any stretch.  The claim seems to be that the neon circuit will shove lots of charge into an auxilliary battery with no increase in the drain on the driving battery. 

23A or 26A is what the last video I watched showed as a running DC current at 11.8V on the input motor battery.  To do self-running, the neon circuit would need to charge the aux battery at the same or higher rate, would it not?   

By inspection only, as a design engineer, I can see from the circuit diagram and component values alone, without building anything, that the neon circuit as published will never provide self-running levels of extraction and auxilliary battery charging.

Ashtweth, you are avoiding the hard facts as if they were bitter poison and now running crying to Stefan whining like a spoiled child.  You may be the teacher's pet, but your tactics tonight have shown everyone here just what you are all about.

Humbugger

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #751 on: September 14, 2007, 07:14:16 AM »
This is another example why not to ask/answer this user name concerning the RV, and how suspicious and counter productive his posts have become. Plus off topic.

All available informations are provided in the published compilations and this has been pointed out to this user name already in many posts.

Also i have merely advised [as it states in my above post] how to address this user name  to Stefan based on my opinion concerning his experience with the RV and on this circuit. His understanding [and experience] of how the RV works and based upon his attitude and time wasting methodology. [this is for his benefit if any]

Its too easy for me to insult a suspicious and or oil man, an alleged disabled man looking for sympathy with no lab, and or to be aggressive to an old man who would have trouble lifting half the weights i could, and who has an attitude which is obvious to me and some others as useless.

But i will say this based on those who like to lol, follow his OU advice  that sim programs can show OU, and to not to build any thing and rely on skepticism with out finding out for your self.

No simulation program can show ZPE, radiant energy , or any of the principles which the engineers who have worked with the RV have tested and reported. The lab is the best education, especially when concerning the RV ;).

So how ever useful you find This user names design engineering (which cannot explain OU), don't expect it to show what the RV engineers have reported in the lab. Their instructions and how to are posted in the comps.

Lab tests are needed by those we trust, not skepticism- Ashtweth
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PS Words that do not match deeds are unimportant. -  Ernesto Che Guevara
This was quiet fun to point out that concerning the RV, a man with out a lab is truly a disabled one.
Plus  to improve attitudes and not to rely on skepticism alone .

« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 08:57:23 AM by ashtweth_nihilisti »

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #752 on: September 14, 2007, 08:40:19 AM »
PS, Guys, we are off for the tests, i wont have internet till Monday so please be patient.

Ill get the separate pulsed watt hour meter results posted HERE on sat and Sunday so you guys don't have to wait for our production/presentation  ;)

Ill show the video of all the requests and Stefans Ball request too on SAT night/sun day morning, our production is coming later and will how the concept of the other [gravity] devices and a few other things so plenty to come. My friend will post this info as i wont have internet till Monday.

Have a good night guys.

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #753 on: September 14, 2007, 09:30:27 AM »
G'day all,

Quote:

 Words that do not match deeds are unimportant. -  Ernesto Che Guevara

End of Quote, Beginning of comment :-)

Anyone that believes this has never read Plato, Anaximander, Aristoteles, Socrates and a whole heap of other philosophers that did not exactly match their words with their deeds in everyday life.

According to that idiot terrorist Che Guevera they were unimportant.

For my money I know who made a better and more lasting impression on the world.

Hans von Lieven



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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #754 on: September 14, 2007, 10:56:56 AM »
Gravity Wheel::


concerning the leverage necessary to keep the wheel in motion, if you have 3 balls going down on one side and 3 going up (this must occur simultaneously) and the distances from the center of rotation were 2:1 respectively
you would essentially have 6 units of force fighting 3 units of force (+ friction). Upon a 2-day examination of the various wheel diagrams and things that have been pointed out in this discussion - i see no reason this wheel would not work.

Things to consider - the slope of the horizontal ramps will determine the RPM of the wheel.
i.e. - the time it takes for a single ball to travel from one side to the other down the sloped plane.
This can be countered by adding "extra" balls into the system, so that theres always a ball ready to drop into the respective bucket. 

My calculations were done using the interior diameter of the outer wheel and the exterior of the inner wheel as locations of the buckets. as long as 1.5 balls is heavy enough to counter the forces trying to stop the wheels motion (friction, imbalance, ect) then the wheel will turn.

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #755 on: September 14, 2007, 12:00:36 PM »
G'day all...
If My mechanical drawings do not match the physical model, or the technical data on the drawings is wrong....then all I can see is a bird drinking the water...like Homer Simpson... ;D
Maybe it's all an illusion.
I like neons....here is one of mine.....
Scotty.

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #756 on: September 14, 2007, 12:30:39 PM »
I have had enough now of Humbugger and his rants over here at the forum.
I have set him now to read only.
Was there any topic lately where he tried not to put his skeptic fingers on
and make fun of and harras the inventors ?

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #757 on: September 14, 2007, 12:42:39 PM »
@Stefan: Indeed, spend him a break!

As i have seen, some other sceptics like Humbugger came along here. But they do not write the same discouraging stuff all the time. Its enough to answer once or twice with same arguments.

@Humbugger, come back, when there is something ready AND proofed by a group. Then i would like to see you convinced.

@Astweth, please cool down! Its not nice or fair, to point on Hum's physically Disability. This has nothing to do with his extrem annoying sceptics and his desire for admiration.

sm0ky2

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #758 on: September 14, 2007, 04:22:06 PM »
@ Ash and Hum

I think you guys should put your personal differences aside, all this petty squabbling truly takes away from why we are al here.  Both of you have contributed greatly on these forums and i would hate to lose either of your great minds over something as petty as whats been going on in this thread...

Let's try to keep the focus here, and at least for now - try to overlooks one another's social-shortcommings.

Thanks,
            Sm0ky

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #759 on: September 14, 2007, 07:58:29 PM »
@ Hans
   
   i have never heared Milkovic claim perpetual motion from any of his devices. He claims USABLE energy from the LEVERAGE. i have however seen  MANY OTHER PEOPLE who see his device, claim that it is OU, when it is not.
There is nothing OU about the Milkovic device.

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Hi Smokey,
Have you ever built and tested a Milkovic machine?
While I will agree with your assessment regarding the distribution of energy, it only applies to a non resonant machine. A non resonant machine and a resonant machine are two completely different mechanisms.
A non resonant unit is a slug. It looks like it is operating correctly, but no particular power is apparent at the end of the lever. Most people stop here and call it a day.
Milkovic calls his machine an oscillator for a very good reason. Significant power is generated in the lever once the right combination of weights, springs and dimensions is found. It's not that hard, but it takes a while to get it tuned.
I built one to see if what he says is true, and I'm satisfied that he is right. I didn't perform any sophisticated measurements because it was obvious to me that what Milkovic claimed really worked.
BTW, I've built many prototypes of machines that failed miserably. This was one of the few exceptions.

Ted

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #760 on: September 14, 2007, 09:09:19 PM »
G'day all,

Patrick Kelly from Panacea has just send me the following diagram, which is his take on the Chas Campbell system.

(http://www.keelytech.com/overunity/chascampbell.bmp)

Forwarded without comment at this stage

Hans von Lieven

so.. what was the consensus on this diagram?

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #761 on: September 14, 2007, 09:19:58 PM »
G'day all,


@ Hans
   
   i have never heared Milkovic claim perpetual motion from any of his devices. He claims USABLE energy from the LEVERAGE. i have however seen  MANY OTHER PEOPLE who see his device, claim that it is OU, when it is not.
There is nothing OU about the Milkovic device..

Sorry Smokey, not quite right what you are saying. In 2001 Milcovic published a book called Perpetuum Mobile in which he shows ten such devices, nine of them invented by him and one by someone else. In that book he does claim to have invented perpetual motion with his devices based on secondary oscillations. Unfortunately the book is only available in Serbian.

If you want to order a copy, here is the URL of the order form

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/KnjigeEng.html#perpetum

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #762 on: September 14, 2007, 10:47:22 PM »
stephan .. I am disappointed you have banned humbugger - every argument requires balance & for the most part he was the voice of reason compared to ash's apparent lack of impartiality, imo.

I remind you that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" - if ash/epi is going to go in to bat so vocally for every FE crusader with a claim then he needs to take note of & incorporate the sceptics concerns about good & reliable/dependable testing technique - otherwise this becomes a farcical game of claim - argument & confusion.

Don't get me wrong - I am just as interested in the next guy here in finding/seeing the real deal - I just don't like being taken on little magical mystery tours every time.

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #763 on: September 14, 2007, 10:59:11 PM »
yes sorry, but what happened to freedom of speech?


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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #764 on: September 14, 2007, 11:20:41 PM »
G'day Stefan and all,

I feel I have to jump to the defense of Humbugger here too. We all know that he can be abrasive at times and perhaps he should tone that down a bit. Having said that, I feel that he contributes a lot to the debate, he is evidently a well trained engineer who has a lot of knowledge to share.

It would be a pity to deprive this forum of his expertise for no other reason than his tendency to get into shit fights. Socrates was a very cranky and abrasive fellow too and we all know what happened to him. I would hate to have history repeat itself here.

Hans von Lieven