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Offline Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #120 on: April 13, 2012, 04:27:33 AM »
Hey Jim

Ya know, this circuit kinda simplifies the Ossie circuit by eliminating the second reed switch. Even has a resistor. Now to equate it to the Ossie circuit, the led should be connected across the battery/coil and bypass the resistor, so more current will back flow through the battery than when the reed is closed, through the resistor.  ;] Simple, simple simple. This eliminates the need to fine tune 2 reeds, of which Im sure is very frustrating to get them in perfect sync, as you well know. ;]

Look at the current flow when the reed is on, and then when off, with respect to the led polarity.  Even if it was a fake, It has shown something interesting.

With the coil and battery always together, whether the reed is closed or open, to light that led, there has to be a reverse current through the battery to do so.

Very interesting. No? ;] 

Mags


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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #120 on: April 13, 2012, 04:27:33 AM »

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« Reply #121 on: April 13, 2012, 06:44:08 AM »
Ok I did the test and it does reverse.  And it also works in Falstad sim.

http://falstad.com/circuit/

Code for the test circuit...

$ 1 4.9999999999999996E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
l 416 128 416 176 0 1.0 3.3237572850258745E-17
r 416 256 416 304 0 5.0
v 416 176 416 256 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 416 128 320 128 0
w 416 304 320 304 0
s 320 128 320 304 0 1 true
d 496 144 496 288 1 0.805904783
w 496 288 416 256 0
w 416 128 496 144 0
o 2 64 1 291 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 0 -1


Now we are experiencing bemf, reverse emf, cemf.  The coil has to be in a situation that it has a choice, or given the ability to reverse its field after the first collapse by not being loaded in any way during the first collapse until reversal happens.

So we can get a reverse field by going this route. The Ossie motor circuit configuration allows for the coils to continue their induced(from source, reeds closed) direction of current through the diodes configuration. Only when both reeds are opened.

Here we allow the first collapse to happen within the coil with no load, and the field reverses causing current on the opposite direction.

Here is code for an example of a relay coil with a diode across it to keep the collapse current from escaping the coil when the source is released. As you can see, the coils collapse produces a continued current flow without reversal..

$ 1 4.9999999999999996E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
w 416 304 320 304 0
s 320 128 320 304 0 1 true
v 320 128 416 128 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
l 416 128 416 304 0 1.0 0.02340281261918754
w 416 304 464 304 0
w 416 128 464 128 0
d 464 304 464 128 1 0.805904783


This is a classic situation, and there is no bemf, only continued forward emf.

Larskos circuit is definitely a bemf, cemf, reverse emf situation. Not a typical circuit.

So in a perfect situation, larskos circuit, timed properly will put back everything used from the source. In a not so perfect world there will be voltage divisions causing losses in the circuit. But then we have to add what is generated from the magnets on the rotor, like in Ossies motor. Those large mags are generating something. And he said it charged batteries while running. 

I have to think on this some more.

The reversal of field in this situation is interesting.  Lets say the coil is in attraction to pull the mag towards it with the reed closed, then we open the reed just after the TDC magnet pass. With Larskos circuit, will there be a reversal of the coils field to now push the magnet away after being pulled when the reed was closed?   ;]   Something to think about.
This may produce additional drive to the motor, while sending current back to the battery.  We can use all the advantages we can get in this business. ;]

Mags

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2012, 09:09:41 AM »
Wow great work Mags. On my third read I'm beginning to understand. :)
Here is the waveform I was getting back then when I found the optimal timing. The spikes are the reeds triggering and the wave is been generated from the mag spin, if that helps. This is the ossie motor I ran for a week on a d cell at around 300rpm


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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2012, 09:09:41 AM »
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Offline k4zep

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #123 on: April 13, 2012, 05:59:39 PM »
Hi Gang.

After the Pyramid Power fiasco, I walked away from Free Energy
for a while in disgust but........This little Italian device caught my eye!

Don't give up on the original Italian device. Download the PDF's
translate and look at the drawings.  A heck of a lot of work for a "Joke".
 I feel it has possibilities.

I'm waiting for some MuMetal and NC reed switches.  I have already
proved to my satisfaction that the basic magnetic loop/circuit works
as advertized. With fields, voltages and phasing correct, the LED's will
fire  with just a slow rocking movement of the rotor at the
opening of the contact after TDC! Now to make the EM loop tight enough to increase
the current in the loop to overcome
the drag, losses, etc.  We shall see.  There are several folk working
on this that are not posting that are very very good at this. 
Will it work?  Don't know yet but I have eaten crow so often in the
pass I'm not saying anything else till I know and or can show.

The replication that Stephan discusses is so far different in its basic construction, so poorly coupled
magnetically, I don't see how it could work without external input.  The gentleman that built it
has in the past been very reliable, I can't figure out why he would fake it!  I'm not sure it is faked or
he started out to fake it, but will take him at his word. 

A picture of my basic motor with no wiring, no intra-coil coupling from several days ago is attached.
You only learn by building. It is a quickly thrown together test rig.   This has to be disassembled and redone when mumetal arrives, etc.  But
was a great testbed to get my head straight as to what was actually going on electrically. 

The fun continues.

Ben K4ZEP

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2012, 07:34:10 PM »
Mag
hope this will be with your approval. :-\
I see we are posting here a subjet started by Jimboot (reply No 100) that is also treated in other thread (Larsko´s magnet motor etc etc )started by Jeffc

I suggest to all, to post there as it is not the main subject here. Not only to avoid info dispersed, but also as a respect gesture to Magluvin.
cheers
Alvaro

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2012, 07:34:10 PM »
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Offline conradelektro

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2012, 07:41:21 PM »
@ Hello Ben K4ZEP, a few questions concerning your set up (photo in your post above):

- The red cylinders left an right, I guess they are coils?

- Why the ring magnets, would disk or cylinder magnets work as well? May be with horizontally oriented coils?

- The thing in the middle (carrying the two ring magnets), is it a motor? I guess it is just a way to fix the ring magnets so they can rotate, or will you use the motor as a drive means?

I have similar parts in my collection of leftover things; coils from relays, motors from hard disk drives, DC motors, various bearings and axles; no ring magnets, but some very good cylinder/disk neodymium magnets.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2012, 08:06:50 PM »
Mag
hope this will be with your approval. :-\
I see we are posting here a subjet started by Jimboot (reply No 100) that is also treated in other thread (Larsko´s magnet motor etc etc )started by Jeffc

I suggest to all, to post there as it is not the main subject here. Not only to avoid info dispersed, but also as a respect gesture to Magluvin.
cheers
Alvaro

Me bad, will go over to the Larsko's thread and answer the question.

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #127 on: April 14, 2012, 04:12:52 AM »
Yes, you can post here about it. It is of the same principals. Magnets, coils, motor, battery, no battery, reeds and leds. All the same ingredients. ;]

Just got home from work. Guna fiddle for a while tonight.

mags

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2012, 04:55:10 AM »
Ive posted my complaints in Larskros last vid on YT. No answers from him, but there was a OUathiest there that tries to discount my posts as If Im nuts.

We dont know for sure what is real or not anymore with it. His first circuit works, with battery recharge, then he posts a new circuit as if the first was wrong, that also will work, but always just consumes from the battery, even when the switch is open and the led is lit, current is draining the battery.

So why the new revised edition of the fake circuit? What was supposedly wrong with the first?

So I am going to incorporate his first circuit into my drive section of my motor. Using his circuit and replacing the battery with a cap of proper size for decent drive and recharge the cap after the reed opens. Then the gen side charging system only has to replace what recharge didt fulfill. This should be a huge savings on the gen section.

I may sound like a nut about Larskros deal, but dangit, why are all my questions legit?
He says he doesnt want to pull the coil apart as its too much trouble.  Well its going to be trouble when he has to replace them batteries.
And how does he recharge them? through the 5ohm res and the resistance of the coil? Will that impede charging from a smart charger? Or would it work just fine? Does he remove the leds for charging due to charge voltage may be able to conduct through the leds? Come on man.  If he really doesnt want to take it apart, did he not think of these things? I would think someone of his skills would make the batteries replaceable. Thin plastic tube. Removable cap.  Bang Bang, fooling people for many years.

So yeah, I might be thinkin he has a working no battery motor and now is saying otherwise and is getting caught up in a bad sense of creativity in explaining how it is a fake. Tripping up on details.

In the 2nd vid showing the battery, he tilts the motor up on its side showing the top view. He spins it one direction CW and the leds barely lit, but CCW they are nice and bright. I can show this right now, without a battery. With a battery, the led intensity is the same CW or CCW. 

Today, I just keep finding good reasons to believe the way I do at this moment. Just too much weird compared to reality going on.

Mags

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #129 on: December 16, 2012, 06:15:27 PM »
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« Reply #130 on: June 19, 2013, 12:10:36 AM »
Hi,

I know I am taking a bit chance here as most comments about Mike Brady has been quite rude and negative but here goes.......

I need some assistance from those willing to help provide information ONLY.....
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I am not sure if you actually know my dad (Michael Brady- Perendev) or are friends with him, but I am trying to clear his name and not quite sure how to go about it.  I believe he did not have a fair trial and was not given the opportunity to present evidence etc.  I have not seen my dad since 2009 and would really like to do my best to get him out of where he is currently.  He does not deserve this and is not guilty.

If you have any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated as well as advise how you are linked to him, maybe if you are a good friend of his you can help.

I know this is like attempting find a needle in a haystack but nevertheless I have to try.

Thank you for reading
Jackie Sasso
Daughter of Michael Brady

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #131 on: June 21, 2013, 04:34:22 PM »
Please tell us what happened to Mr Brady.


What are they accusing him of?


Thanks.


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« Reply #132 on: June 21, 2013, 04:43:18 PM »
Hi
He was accused of Embezzlement, however he has written to me in absolute detail to explain that this is not true but everyone just wants to see the motor working, he has a working motor but was not given the opportunity in court to prove this, the lawyer that handled his case was assigned by the court and had no interest in assisting my dad.  The trial was in German and my dad's understanding of German was basic so not sure exactly what was said, he was not afforded a translator. He was not afforded the opportunity to provide any documentation nothing.
He has applied for an appeal and was denied etc.
He has served half his sentence and has applied for half sentence - not sure of the outcome yet.
He just wants his name cleared and prove his innocence, hence me requesting information from people who knew him but so far I have not yet gotten any.
Thanks
Jackie

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« Reply #133 on: June 21, 2013, 06:55:24 PM »

Sorry to hear about that.  I used to see posts concerning his magnet motors, but that's all I know.
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #134 on: June 22, 2013, 07:06:58 AM »
Don't you remember that he claimed that secret customers of his had working units installed and running? It would have been ridiculously easy for him to prove his claims if that had been true. He had ample opportunity to show a working model, many times. Just read the pages on Brady at PESN. Even Sterling doesn't believe in him.
If you are really his daughter, I feel sorry for you, because evidently he is trying to pull the wool over your eyes too, being the natural-born conman that he is. Where is a working model that demonstrates the validity of his claims? There is none and there never has been one. What did the people get, who paid him money for his promises? Nothing.
My advice to you is to just let him serve his time, and hope that he has learned his lesson.

Or, if you _really_ want to help, have him tell you where the "working model" is, and then _you_ demonstrate that it works as he claims. That would be great, I'd even pay money to see that. (The price of a theater ticket, not more.)

 

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