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Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2012, 06:44:00 AM »
Ok turns out same issues as before. The mag has to come to cose to the ferrites to get a charge and thus is attracted by it. My wire is probably to thick. 0.5mm . Romero is probably right methinks. more turns lighter gauge wire.

Hey Jim

What mag do you have?  If its the same as Z's, they are strong buggers. Ive also read that the field at the poles extend a bit like a beaming effect. I dont remember the exact words. But I remember what I envisioned.

How far from the coil/core is the mag?  In Z's vid, it seems a good distance compared to conventional motors or gens. And Romero said some things on this spacing before.
Do you have wire to make the 4000 turn coil?  I know you have done quite a bit of winding in your time. ;]

Ive got to move into my new shop in the morning. Its for working on my fieros and doin projects. Nice lil shop. 1000ft $600 No last or sec.  Im stoked.
The cars have been in storage with a lot of my stuff. So Im glad that part of my life is back. I had to give up my last shop as it was $1100 and was between jobs.

Was thinking about the wire sizes as to why the difference.....

It could be a way of joining a coil(thin) to another of the same length in series, and the net result would not be a doubling of the resistance. Geddit?  Just thoughts  As if say the 30ga coil was in action, but the other 26ga coil  was not at the time due to the diode.  But then they join in another phase of operation. Thinkin why 2 sizes. ;]

One thing Im going to do is add a battery. lol   To a separate pulse coil to just drive the rotor for some tests on the coil without having to keep spinning it by hand.  This way I can see what happens with just the coils and the diode. To find out what is happening in there being that they are all together in this portion.  Also  if the pulse motor is turning the rotor, we can constantly be adjusting to look for speedups and slowdowns. Then we will get a clue of what is happening with adjustments made as we go. This probably wouldnt work with using the sphere as the pulse driver might really affect the operation being close to the mag ball.

Doing rundowns also is a good test. lets say we record the time for the rotor to slow down from a particular speed by itself, and then do the same with the setup in a particular situation/alignment.  If it takes longer to slow down with the setup, then we are close.
But were hoping for a runner.

ok gota git to bed soon.  Im typing half dislexic. lol

Mags

Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2012, 08:10:02 AM »
ok  I gota respond to this from M...

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22060#msg22060

Its strange I know. He is banned from here and me from there...

M. You say Im off balance.   

I have come here to do this project. And guess what. You have something to say about it.
Every day. Well, you were absent there for a bit, after...  ;)   

But you made the earlier statements on the battery thing. That didnt come out the way you wanted it to? Or did it?  Im not the only one that read it. It was utter nonsense.  Do I need to put a poll up at the top of this thread just to show you that I am not the only one you would consider off balance?

And can you show me that your method of designing a fake is how to tell if a device is fake from real without ever trying to get real? And can you show me any references to this way of science, or is it something you have come up with on your own? I dont see any supporters over there cheerin you on.

And why would popular opinion not count in your mind, but it does in ours? Something is off balance. What is the common denominator? 8)   Yer all alone there. Just you and Dumped taking a dump on you, in your own house.  :o
I dont seem to have that problem here because I am so off balance, see.  ;)    Do you really want to continue this? really really? 

Yet you stand your ground. That is bold, but maybe bipolar. Or off balance err sumthin.

Now, you have made me challenges.  I tell you what. You keep the pie hole shut for 1 month. Shut shut, no pm babble, nada.  Not a peep. If after that time we dont have nuthin, then I will take your suggestions as to how to figure out why. Ill give you 1 week to conclude youre full argument. And we will decide if it holds any water or if your bucket is a shower head. I think that is being very generous. To give you the stage, for 1 week.
there will be no insults, from either side(you and me).  If you like, we call a truce, here and now. For now.

Well?

I dont think that is unreasonable nor off balance. Anyone?  I get a month because I dont know what Im doing, and you get a week because you do. Is that assessment good for you?

But dangit, 1 peep, and no deal and nooo talky.   One bit of insult to anyone else here. Even if they do it to you( as I dont have control of that), you must endure it and remain 100% professional. As will I.

If you agree, we begin tomorrow. Sun 18. You have till midnight  to decide. if yes, then Not a peep.         peep peep       not a pip         shhhhhh shush  ;)

How bout that bag of apples?

Whoaaaa whaaaoo! :o   oops, I lost my balance there for a sec. ;D    errr I regained it for a second, because Im already off balance?  ::)

Its the Vitamin B    ;D

Mags

Jimboot

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2012, 08:21:08 AM »
Lol yeah thinking about one of my mini Christmas coils with a ferrite. I have a 1" neo sphere. It has to be pretty close to light the led. Any ideas of cap value? I'm winding another joule thief ATM so I'll get back to it when done.

Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2012, 08:38:58 AM »
Hey Jim

Well Romero said that the cap would need to be the right one for the setup. 10uf is the recommended in the 4000 tune circuit. You could start there. It may be just a speed adjustment, up or down that will determine a match. Dunno yet, but start with 10uf I d say for now.

See, if your coil is only about 100 turns, your sphere may not be up to speed for that.
the 4000 turns will have much slower reactions and actions to accomodate slower speeds, as in the number of pole passes in a period of time.

thanks for Joining in Jim. ;]

mags

Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2012, 06:02:18 PM »
M speaks...
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22075#msg22075

Ok M. No show down at the OK coral?  No deal?   ok


Till midnight you have. Ill give you that. Till then or after 12 am if you dont agree, ya get nuthin.

Then you will come to OU under a new FAKE member, like SpikyVoltage, or PoonPoonMagoon, what ever.  And I will recognize you, as done before, and you will get banned again, just as you have before.  Your a known Rebannder.  lol 

Mags   Ova and out     Till the clock strikes 12 M.  That is the best I will do for you.


Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2012, 09:55:23 PM »
Ok, just got back from moving my stuff.  M is still, as Rose Would say, muttering. Shush.
Some of the muttering is in reference to Romero.  Then it will be about Jimboot. 

My enthusiasm just keep climbing.  The Romeo and Juliet effect

Just put my camera battery on charge, I should have some things to show later today with this little bifi for now.

Mags

hey M  7 hours and 9 min till midnight.  ;)



romerouk

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2012, 11:14:59 AM »
Check this one here  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1TgzNl2dQ
 
The magnets arrangement should work better like that than the magnet ball.
 
Romero

Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2012, 04:10:17 PM »
Hey Romero

If Im seeing what I think im seeing. That, is a beautiful thing.  ;D

Thanks for that.

I have to go to my shop for a little while. Be back later.

Mags

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Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2012, 04:21:21 PM »
Hey M. Theres yer battery.   :o ;D

But of course, we will be hearing the "fake" line again from the peanut gallery. ;)

Mags

TinselKoala

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2012, 04:43:44 PM »
This particular "peanut" sees nothing particularly "mind-blowing" in that video.... in fact it's rather amusing. I especially liked the part where the voltmeter becomes disconnected from the battery.... but still indicates a voltage, a decreasing one.... until it's hooked back up.



Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2012, 05:10:37 PM »
See?

Mags

TinselKoala

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2012, 07:17:30 PM »
See?

Mags
I see what I see. What do you see?
Did the voltmeter not come disconnected from the battery for a moment? Did the voltage not drop to zero but rather show a continuously decreasing voltage from about 1.4 volts on down, until he wiggled stuff and remade the connection?
What's your explanation for that event? Perhaps it was the charging circuit that came disconnected, and not the battery itself...? I don't know if that's consistent either; I'll have to think about it for a little while.

This is not a full analysis, mind; it's just a first impression. But I do have all the necessary parts _shown on the video_  on hand....

BTW you haven't said whether my replication of you-know-who's you-know what, the first one years ago, was sufficiently exact enough for your liking.

Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2012, 10:11:45 PM »
I see what I see. What do you see?
Did the voltmeter not come disconnected from the battery for a moment? Did the voltage not drop to zero but rather show a continuously decreasing voltage from about 1.4 volts on down, until he wiggled stuff and remade the connection?
What's your explanation for that event? Perhaps it was the charging circuit that came disconnected, and not the battery itself...? I don't know if that's consistent either; I'll have to think about it for a little while.

This is not a full analysis, mind; it's just a first impression. But I do have all the necessary parts _shown on the video_  on hand....

BTW you haven't said whether my replication of you-know-who's you-know what, the first one years ago, was sufficiently exact enough for your liking.

What I meant by "see?" is that the nay sayers will come fast and they did.

Z and Mopozco Were friends I believe back then.  I have followed Him also since. I think he is straight up.

I also was taken in buy a video of the Whipmag, from Alsetalokin, aka Tinselkoala
Who let on like it was real for. how long was it? How many people were lead on by that?
So I suppose you are an expert with fakes, so that is how you know for sure that Mopo vid is just trickery. Takes one to know one.    :P

Or was the Whip real?  ;)   Cant get any truth on that one, for years. But we should heed you words now, right? yeah  Heed this.


No I have not looked at the old replication you referred me to. I have seen the latest and it is not the same circuit that you represent it to be, no matter how many sprinkles you put on it.   So why would I be interested in some old stuff, when I see what is going on now?  That old circuit justifies the new butchery? 

Its like this.  You start your vid with showing Roses circuit, and then present that what you have on the table is the same.  Even if you dispute my argument that the transformer, the way you used it, with leds, 1 in parallel with the primary, and an led in parallel with the secondary, You must believe that this cluster is equal to a single 2 lead inductor, as shown in the schematic at the beginning of your vid, or you would not defend it so. It is not different?   
So your vid is NOT a truthful representation of Roses circuit as you say it is.  Even the newbes can understand that much .

If you walked into Earth Tech (you know who) and show them the schematic and then the circuit, would they laugh? Or would they say, wow, you are a frikin genius?  Cmon T. Just stop it. It is not the same as a regular inductor that I know of.   It is as different as a mosfet with a diode, and one that is without a diode. Simple simple. Yet you defend that. 

I rest my case.



If you want to argue that, we will do it over there.  Not here

Mags

Im late to pick up my stromboli. No time to edit or correct misspellings.

Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2012, 01:27:01 AM »
Here is what TK had in his vid. On the left is what Roses circuit shows as the inductor, and the leds in line with the inductor.

In TK table top setup, the 2 circuits on the right are hi replication of the use for the inductor and the leds.  A transformer with on led across the primary and one across the secondary.  I show 2 of his circuit, with the sec diode in the opposite direction, as I cannot tell from the vid.
Can anyone here say the either of the 2 circuits on the right are representative of Roses circuit on the left? Anyone?  ;D

Yet TK stands by it.  In your face.

Mags

TinselKoala

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2012, 01:34:32 AM »
You forgot to put in the series inductor ( the little brown thing sticking up to the left of the "transformer" in the videos-- it's clear enough). It's not 1 Henry.... are you sure Rosie's was?
So later on in the video series when I _remove_ the transformer choke, leaving the parallel LED in place, the circuit is just like what's on the left in your above diagram, and when I flip that LED, that's equivalent to showing them both hooked up simultaneously, isn't it? Except of course for the component values, which we know are accurately reported by Rosemary.

Next straw man, please.

And I thought you didn't want to argue about this here. So why are you doing it?

(And I'm crushed that you haven't viewed the early videos of my Ainslie work. You should.. you might be surprised, and you might learn some things. By the way, the person who is registered here as "alsetalokin", using the icon of a hand-held bulb lighting up next to a Tesla coil, is not me, and if you don't believe that, you can ask Stefan, who has all IP addresses and such recorded. Maybe you can ask "alsetalokin" about the Whipmag, but don't ask me about it. You won't like what you hear... which is that there is no way that device could have been doing anything unusual at all. Come to think of it.... didn't "alsetalokin" ALWAYS tell everyone who asked that it was NOT overunity self-runner at all?)

Oh... and the 2n7000 does have an internal body diode, it just isn't commonly shown on the diagram of that part. Look it up.