Hi AB,

That's true. But what I think Bob is doing is backing off the brake much farther than necessary just to start the machine. Then, quite clearly in the video, tightening it again to control the speed. In fact, this is what he states in the video.
If he is using the brake as a speed control you would want as fine a control as possible. If the caliper is a scissor-type of caliper this would provide the greatest braking leverage and control and yes, many more turns. So again, no discrepancy.

Maybe Bob will correct me if I'm wrong.

Regards,
Charlie

@all

The only other comment I wish to make at this point is that we have Bob's statement that his latest machine is no less than the ninth variant of his original concept. Therefore, making assumptions based on a couple of stills and video is risky when we don't know exactly where these fall in the evolutionary pathway of his design.

Regards,
Charlie

@all

The only other comment I wish to make at this point is that we have Bob's statement that his latest machine is no less than the ninth variant of his original concept. Therefore, making assumptions based on a couple of stills and video is risky when we don't know exactly where these fall in the evolutionary pathway of his design.

Regards,
Charlie

A very well placed thought provoking statement Charlie, one I am in total agreement with!  If Bob is adamant of not giving, then he is not going to give us a "show and tell" lecture from the nearest podium.

Here is the Canadian patent office website,
but I did not yet find any gravity related patent by the inventor name
Kostoff, so maybe someone else is lucky to find it ?

http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/srch_adv-e.html

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

It has recently come to my understanding that the patent is allegedly, deliberately  not written up as a gravity related patent. The concept is hidden within a device that falls in another category. If possible one may have to do a "wide search by inventor name if  feasible on the patent search engine employed.

@ LarryC,

Could you please direct me to the post where you learned of the cam and levered followers? All I can find is  mention of a cam.  I am lacking input as to what kind of cam or its function, hydraulic valve cam, make and break contact cam, lifter cam, ETC.

Ralph Lortie   

As Ralph has stated, its possible that Bob was clever enough to hide the specific invention within a more nebulous title. And if Bob went to that length, its also probably not filed under his name.

According to Canadian (and I assume US) patent law, its possible to protect an inventory's anonimity by filing under an assignee's name.

Regards,
Charlie

LarryC , Charlie and broli,

Thank you for your research and input.

Shaking the apple tree as we have been doing the last couple of days, has caused an apple or two to fall! They are not ripe yet and we know green apples are not good for us.

I suggest we all go back to our own research or what ever and proceed  our favored path, whether it be hands on research or armchair philosophy.  I have recieved confirmation that we have all we are going to get for now regarding Bob's machine. I feel that any more speculation here other than reference to personal progress of ones own endeavors will be in vain.  We are not going to hear from Bob until he is ready to pull back the curtain.

Those concerned about the possibility of Bob and his machine going the same way as Bessler need not fear, it is not going to happen!

If you are attempting to duplicate as Larry is doing, I suggest you proceed using your own innovation. I am going to shelve all my research on this and wait for an announcement which hopefully (as quoted) will come before the end of November. If we do not hear anything by then I for one will consider proceeding with my own version. I have been patient for fifty years, another couple of weeks is a drop in the bucket!

Tomorrow I return to the shop, I have a couple of concepts to work on. Luckily I have three test beds, when I tire or loose patience with one I jump to another, giving my mind a chance to clear and reflect. Its my way of avoiding 'tunnel vision' 

Regards,

Ralph Lortie

 

 

Larry,

Do you really think you may have all the time in the world? My father in law, not much older than you, but earlier today (2:47 Ct AM), I was awaking by a phone call from the hospital with my father in laws unsuspected death and my wife's (his daughter) extreme sadness. So I may be out of touch for a while.


I am sorry to hear of your loss and offer my condolence. And no! we do not have all the time in the world, at least not as an individual. I am on borrowed time now.

So please people, get er done while you're here, for your family and the world, before your ability to do so is going!

I only exist for that reason, its a long story and I will not go into full detail but after my second heart attack I was diagnosed in August of 2002 and told I would be dead by February of 2003

In October 2002 I flat lined and was revived 27 times in a period of a 300 mile fixed wing jet airplane ride while being transported to a Cardiology Hospital. There after awakening  I was informed that I was a prime candidate for a new experimental heart surgery procedure.  I offered myself as a walk in cadaver to Oregon State University teaching hospital,

The operation procedure was explained to me and  that my chances of surviving  the operation were very low.  Both my wife and I had to sign a contractual agreement.  My heart was sliced and diced and sewn back together.  When I came out of the anesthesia Alan Alda and the crew from Scientific American Frontiers was there.  Two months later a defibrillator was implanted in my chest. Every three months I now go in and have my inboard computer downloaded and battery checked.   

Now I am not a Bible thumper but for some reason it just wasn't my time to go. Ever since I have had this insatiable urge to put full time into seeking a new energy source, I chose to pursue gravity after spending many years with magnets. For me it is the only reason I am alive. it is as though God said, No I am not ready for you yet, you have something more to do, and I cannot think of what it is other than turning gravity into a clean energy source. It is the direction he pointed me in! 

For those that follow the readings of the Bible, God said in so many words that there is everything here man will ever desire, seek and ye shall find. As our technology grows so does our seeking and finding. But IMO we are not going to find it until we are smart or evolved enough to utilize it, a walk through history will tend to confirm this.   

My life is built around gravity wheels and that damn guy named Bessler. Before I die it is imperative that I or some one stands on his shoulders while he is in a lake over his head!. In the meantime my house that is in need of maintainance is falling down around my ears. Research in the shop and on the computer are more important until the roof springs a leak!

Maybe this will help explain why I offer to build viable or questionable designs for people who lack the resources or empirical skills to build their own.