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Offline judah

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NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« on: April 08, 2007, 10:46:52 PM »
HELLO ALL IVE SPENT THE LAST 3 YEARS WORKING OUT THE KINKS ON A IDEAL THAT I HAD SOME YEARS AGO AT THE LOCAL LIBARY. I DEVOLEPED 3 WORKING PROTO TYPES TO SHOW THAT THE PLATFORM CAN BE SCALED TO MEET  DIFFRENT APLICATIONS IT OBEYS ALL THE LAWS OF THERMO DYNAMICS AS WE CURRENTLY KNOW THEM TO BE SO  I CONTACT A PATENT LAWYER TO DO A PRIOR ART SHEARCH.
 AND THERE IS NO PRIOR ART THAT HE COULD FIND. AND HE TELLS ME THAT IN SOME CASES THAT THE US GOVERMENT WILL LITTRELY SEIZE THE PATENT AND INEFFECT TELL YOU TO REMAIN SILENT ABOUT IT UNDER A NATIONAL SECURITY ACT IS THERE ANY WAY AROUND THIS? IVE SPENT 5 K ON CNC MACHINERY AND 8 K ON GETTING IT TO WORK ANY IDEAL?ANY ONE? AND YES THE PLAT FORMS ARE SELF SUSTAINING!

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NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« on: April 08, 2007, 10:46:52 PM »

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 12:22:37 AM »
Yes Free energy has the right idea. They DO Take what they want and no matter how long you fight it they win. They have one of mine. I got nothing for it not even a thank-You. So speaking from experience if i could do it all over again i would just give it away. I'd rather Give it to people than have it stolen. Call it what you want. I got nothing for my own work, But older and poorer from trying to keep what is rightfully mine.

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 12:22:37 AM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2007, 12:30:12 AM »
@Judah,
the only real way is Open Source !
But you can at least win win the OverUnity Price
of currently 1200 Euros, if you have 3 devices,
that put out more than 50 Watts each electrical output power.


@Moab,
couldn?t you just Open Source your patent anymore or were you
told to be silent about it ?

Thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 12:52:12 AM »
The second one.

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Offline judah

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 01:49:31 AM »
 i think that a provisional patent aplication gives you the right of selling you ideals to companys my lawyer says that they dont judge them by what they are or even if they work they just file it send you a card saying that it has been filed and from there that you can safely try to market you prouduct to companys. well he said not to include the words free energy or over unity to keep the discription real short and sweet like say a novle and unobvious way of produceing power. and the do some thing very similer to what steron is doing go on the global news and and release it but at the same time start selling the prouduct my self .  he seems to think that this would work
the exampel he gave was this if  you were to sell  a small flash light that used a high out put halogen bulb that would never need to be recharged or never needed batteries
that clearly would be far better than any thing on the market currently . that they would have a realy hard time suppressing that . do you guys agree?




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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 01:58:40 AM »
isn't there a certain rule in patenting that an invention can not be perpetual motion or self-sustaining else they will not patent it? i could be wrong.

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Offline judah

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2007, 02:11:40 AM »
who is stepan? and would this person be willing to do that? becuse that is a realy good ideal infact are the places you guys are from known for keeping thing like this hidden?

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2007, 02:16:40 AM »
Stefan Hartmann is the owner and Moderator of OverUnity.com

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2007, 02:25:18 AM »
ya i seen that  that he was the mod right after i posted and what i have developed is not pm and i didnt see any thing about self sustaining systems in fact ther is a patented self sustaing energy system that i seen while doing a art search 6 months ago  but the energy it produces is very small and what i devoleped will only work for 10 to 20 years per unit


but yes if he would be willing to do that under the right conditions i think thats a realy
good ideal

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2007, 02:29:45 AM »
so how about starting a new topic with your free energy/over unity open source technology?

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2007, 06:20:13 PM »
@judah

If you want to patent it, patent only one portion which is the key area. Attach to it superfluous extensions. Once patent pending, then you can use it any way you want. If you plan to make multiples and sell them, start by selling them one by one, two by two, three by three. When you get up to 200 clients, then do a small blitz, stop, disappear if you feel some heat, then come back again when the heat settles. By then you will be on Oprah, and your cloak will be assured.

If you make a boat that will never sink, some people will not like that, so you say it will sink if hit by a tanker or by a comet. It is not an unsinkable boat.
Your slogan "Our boats are not comet proof!".

Another one "Our generators consume replacement parts". Show the yearly parts cost even if you have to make them  up and work out the kW/h cost thereafter. It's not free energy.

Do not mention free energy, over unity.
Instead use highly efficient. Don't make big waves. Start small, make yourself a base, then, if you see that you can increase your base, go for it, but don't make waves.

For anyone to succeed in the OU businesses of the future, they must keep a focused mind set. Don't crave attention, don't try to be a hero. You have a good product, You can make and sell it. It's a business. Don't knock anyone down, regardless of your personal beliefs. Publicly, always speak about the positive, never the negative. The least amount of enemies you make, the better you will succeed.

Your mind set is the key since your most powerful powerhouse of what happens to you in your life is your mind set. If you are always panicking about the MIB, you will attract the MIB since you will subconsciously do things that will attract them. If your mind set is funneled towards the business end of this venture, since that's exactly what it is, a venture, then you will subconsciously do things that enable that realization. Your mind set is the master plan that your subconscious then puts into motion, on a one, two, three and four dimensional basis. This happens to you everyday whether you know it or not.

A commercial entity has more of a chance than one inventor since an entity can be administered by more than one person. You have to find the business partners to cover your ass. Sell $1000 certificates. The more people that buy a certificate, the more covered you will be against any potential attempt to stifle your efforts. The more people have your system in hand, the stronger it is to give out more certificates and sell more systems. But keep it low key.

Finance your start-up by selling $1000 certificates that will share in let's say 10% of Class A shares. Put a cap on it of 5000 certificates. The first one sold will be worth all the 5%, the second will make 2.5% each, the third will be 1.66% each, etc, until 1/5000% each on the 10%.

Make sure you have an accountant to do your books, as you may be attacked by the fiscal people as a favor to someone. Put some money aside for such hassles. Or do the books yourself but be diligent and still put some money aside.

If your system can easily be replicated, and if you do not want to bother with everything that your invention will create, prepare a good internet disclosure and go open source.

If your system cannot easily be replicated, since it may entail very complicated components that only you can create and if you do not want to bother with everything that your invention will create, then find someone who can and put it in his or her name or go open source anyways and hope that someone will pick it up.

If your system, regardless if it can or cannot easily be replicated, even if it may entail very complicated components that only you can create and if you DO want to manage and grow with everything that your invention will create, then be very careful, dumb-like, open your business, find some partners that have varied technical skills and do it. But keep it low key to start.

If you try to sell it to a multi-national for a billion dollars, it will rarely ever happen and you run the risk of getting physically crushed.

Lastly, if you still want to try to sell it to a multi-national for a billion dollars, you will command a better price and have more security if you have a company that actually makes and sells the device with at least 1000 clients. Or by then it's time to either sell or attract a very big partner for another 20% or 30%.

All the best.

Offline judah

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2007, 10:23:04 PM »
you live in florida i live in tenn if you would like to come and see the plat form do some test what ever let me know becuse it dose work and its very simpel !
  or i maybe could even meet you half way !

Offline judah

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Re: NEW ENERGY PLAT FORM
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2007, 03:27:45 PM »
yes i did get it look forward to talking to you and meeting you i tried to send you a reply but it got seent back going to try once more  but we will for sure speak befor the week is out   :)

 

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