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TheOne

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2007, 10:27:59 PM »
capacitor + attraction magnet = 12.1 mV (after 17 hours)
capacitor + repulsion magnet = 1.8 mV (after 6.5 hours)
capacitor + no magnet = 2.2 mV (after 6.5 hours)

i don't know what conclude with this result so far :)

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2007, 08:22:29 AM »
hmmm interesting,

any more results TheOne?

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2007, 12:23:01 PM »
Hi Folks,

I am sorry to say but I simply doubt the 1F supercap has not been charged up before the video demo.  If I am to believe 'vortexentity', then it was his friend who must have prepared it for him.   
The video demo should have started as follows:
-show the measured zero or a max of few mV capacitor voltage at the start of the test
-place the magnets and coil as they wish and continuosly show the meter display how the voltage in the cap start increasing.

This was not videoed convincingly at all.

It is also possible that at the location it was made there is a high electromagnetic field from either a high power electric machine or broadcast station or similar source.

Tom Bearden wrote about an opposite experiment to do for one dollar, I quote:
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A System Continuously Extracting Energy
from the Vacuum Can be Made for a Dollar

Nature readily provides bountiful sources of unending EM energy, free for the taking and using ? anywhere, anytime. They are called "charges" and "dipoles" ? and often, source charges and source dipoles.

As an example, simply place an electret or charged capacitor on a permanent magnet so that the electric field of the electret or capacitor and the magnetic field of the magnet are at right angles to each other. That silly thing will sit there and pour out EM energy in all directions, at the speed of light, so long as you just leave it alone and do not destroy it.

One year after you create it, its outpouring of energy will have reached a radius of one light year ? out beyond the solar system ? in all directions. It will have changed the energy density of that vast volume of surrounding space of one light-year radius. And it is still pouring out energy at the same rate, steadily changing the energy density of still more space.
<<<

I wish I knew how Mr Bearden thinks to sense or even to extract a tiny piece of energy from his suggested setup...   Any ideas?

Regards
Gyula

PS   You can find the quoted text from Bearden at this link:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/bearden.htm

and it is true, his reference #20 is from a book:
"As an example, quoting Jed Z. Buchwald, From Maxwell to Microphysics, University of Chicago Press, Chicago and London, 1985, p. 44: "[Poynting's result] implies that a charged capacitor in a constant magnetic field which is not parallel to the electric field is the seat of energy flows even though all macroscopic phenomena are static."

TheOne

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2007, 02:00:45 PM »
Well i think it's simple enough to replicate, i don't have wire so other can try it instead of saying he cheat with his friend no?

btw here another result (12 hours after the last one)

capacitor + attraction magnet = 14.4 mV (after 29 hours)
capacitor + repulsion magnet = 3.4 mV (after 18.5 hours)
capacitor + no magnet = 3.8 mV (after 18.5 hours)

this experience is not right without the coil...

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2007, 04:22:06 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290092804164 super caps for sale. I don't feel so bad as I plugged the forum in my ad. (c:

I'm going to give this a try, and if it works I'll post a video on YouTube as well. Hope little neo magnets will work. Seems like I need a few setups:

no magnet
attraction, 0 degrees, no charge
repulsion, 0 degrees, no charge
attraction, 90 degrees, no charge
repulsion, 90 degrees, no charge
attraction, 0 degrees, charged
repulsion, 0 degrees, charged
attraction, 90 degrees, charged
repulsion, 90 degrees, charged

...does that cover it? I'll charge them up to 2 volts and then see if it goes up from there.

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2007, 05:01:45 PM »
you need scaler coil around the magnet and capacitor, something i don't have, i dont even know what a scaler coil is :)

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2007, 08:25:32 PM »
Maybe the same as a Caduseus Coil:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/sclxmtr.htm

There are some very "interesting" links if you google for "scalar coil" (use quotes).
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22scalar+coil%22

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2007, 10:00:59 PM »
The scaler coil is simply 2 coils intersecting at 90 degrees from one another. There is only about 12 turns on each and they are wired together to form a scaler field. Scaler is non-Hertzian wave or one in which the field is canceled but current is still found to be drained from the system. The theory is that this energy while not visible or measurable due to its shape is till present and effects matter on the quantum level.

At least that is my understanding of it.

In the case of these 2 coils they are wrapped around the magnets axis not around the capacitors axis.

The magnets should be selected so as to completely cover the capacitor. The reason for my choice of a super cap was that they have a high capacity and are carbon based. Others might work as well but have not tried them yet.

We plan to make some other attempts and will publish them as well.

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2007, 11:19:26 PM »
Well i think it's simple enough to replicate, i don't have wire so other can try it instead of saying he cheat with his friend no?

btw here another result (12 hours after the last one)

capacitor + attraction magnet = 14.4 mV (after 29 hours)
capacitor + repulsion magnet = 3.4 mV (after 18.5 hours)
capacitor + no magnet = 3.8 mV (after 18.5 hours)

this experience is not right without the coil...

Hi

tempted by triviality I also tried it and yes it does veeerry slooow charge capacitor in my case ~ 1mV per 2 hours.

20:19  0.05mV
21:11  0.58mV
22:59  1.26mV
23:03  1.30mV
23:19  1.40mV

Below my setup with 6 x cubic neos N48 in atraction.  :)

Marcel

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2007, 12:07:14 AM »
The coil has no effect in the system it seems. The purpose for them was for future experiments using various RF frequencies.

Moab

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2007, 12:22:04 AM »
Whats all the exitement about? Caps have long been known to charg them selves. Ive pulled new caps out of the box and been zapped even when the cap has never been hooked to any power, Ever..Kinda neat but not a new discovery. If any thing your getting RF Bleed.

HopeForHumanity

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2007, 01:07:36 AM »
Hello, my first time posting here! ;D

If caps charge them selves, then where is the energy coming from? I'm still in high school, but in intro to engineering we played with electrical parts and I've never gotten shocked by a capacitor. So whats up?

HopeForHumanity.

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2007, 02:08:59 AM »
Hello, my first time posting here! ;D

If caps charge them selves, then where is the energy coming from? I'm still in high school, but in intro to engineering we played with electrical parts and I've never gotten shocked by a capacitor. So whats up?

HopeForHumanity.

I said they CAN charge. not that all will or do. But it is true.  wen working around Big caps i was told many years ago to treat every cap as fully charged. even if it is new. Im not talking about baby caps here i mean big heart stoppers. :o As to why, there is many ideas, some proven some not. you guys are seeing milivolts in baby caps. so i think it is not OU or FE, Just my .o2

Keep messing around, get some bigger caps try your luck. do it long enough yul be a believer. ;)

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2007, 04:03:18 AM »
We are working on some other stuff that is far more interesting but this is one of those things I really wanted to see if it was true. One of those rumors that you just need to check out for yourself.

We do intend to keep playing with it.

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Re: This look interresting, simple free energy device
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2007, 04:17:38 AM »
let's power our home with a big array of 100000000000000 super capacitors!!!