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Low-Q

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Re: This perpetual motion machine...
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2007, 09:55:52 AM »
does anyone think this will work?
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You forget that the magnet will affect the rotor pieces as you whish, but the same magnetic force is prerventing it to rotate. Magnetic force works like a "grip" on magnetic items. In this case you just delay the gravity force at the same time as you try to unbalance the wheel. These two forces equalizes each other perfectly, so you loose nothing, and win nothing.

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AB Hammer

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Re: This perpetual motion machine...
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2007, 11:48:00 AM »
Low-Q

Good answer, that is why I only recommend the paddle flipper for a magnet trick.

Low-Q

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Re: This perpetual motion machine...
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2007, 08:43:28 PM »
I think none of these flip-devices will ever work. The reason is simple: The mass density at one side is perfectly the oposite of the relative torque at the same side, and the flip will never occour in advace to unbalance the wheel - always too late. Any attempt to interfere whith these devices so the flip might occour sooner, will allways produce a drawback that counteract on the rotation. Then it stops.

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Re: This perpetual motion machine...
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2007, 08:59:05 PM »
@Low-Q: I agree your high-Q-statement! Indeed all kind of these linear forces concept wheel never run. Nonetheless Bessler's wheel ran, because it wasn't such easy, although it wasn't much more complicated, i think.

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Re: This perpetual motion machine...
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2007, 10:34:18 PM »
Try this

A smot/old paddle type which should make a nice toy. From one side it will look allot like the old paddle flipper but on the other side the magnets will be doing the flipping, instead of your finger making it flip. It uses wood of course and refrigorator magnets (the large ones) You place 1 embedded in the side of each flipper with N down, now on a stand you that will be in track with the magnets and place 2 with the N up side by side about 1/2 inch apart and the first lower than the other at an angle. You will have to play a bit with that angle and then watch it go. PS make sure your hinges work freely before attaching them.

This toy should get people into more SMOT