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Author Topic: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking  (Read 2927 times)

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2020, 12:16:26 AM »
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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2020, 03:57:19 PM »
I see that i'm not the only one who thinks that you are such an asshole.

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2020, 05:51:55 PM »
Just like you claimed "All i seen is words. Words are not free energy and neither is buoyancy." in my "simple and powerful principle" thread...

https://overunity.com/18434/simple-and-powerful-principle/

..and then turned out admitting you were wrong and coming up with ideas based on the principle, so has this bright cookie accused Dave from the video i linked for saying multiplier output is DC, not pulsed DC, and ended up deleting his comments. Funny isn't it, you asshole.

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2020, 09:30:37 PM »
Hmmm
Actually ...Turbo and Carroll have contributed tonnes here ,True Turbo was one of the founders of Overunity research forum ...and felt some topics were a little risky to experiment with here///  "effects" which could cause harm ?? [
I had asked him recently [begged a bit] to kick other things around since he is such an asset here [IMO]
as your exchange with  Carroll...?  I think you need a bit more "calmness" and perhaps more perspective to the schematic you point to [what is the claim ?]

// Nix..I have appreciated many of your posts "outside of the box...personally ...I think we need more of that...
but not so much the conflict..
Just one mans opinion

Chet K   PS,  I was going to see if Cadman or member Evolvingape  had some input on the bouyancy topic...they built and studied much there....no stone left unturned...

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2020, 09:51:00 PM »
Hmmm
Actually ...Turbo and Carroll have contributed tonnes here ,True Turbo was one of the founders of Overunity research forum ...and felt some topics were a little risky to experiment with here///  "effects" which could cause harm ?? [
I had asked him recently [begged a bit] to kick other things around since he is such an asset here [IMO]
as your exchange with  Carroll...?  I think you need a bit more "calmness" and perhaps more perspective to the schematic you point to [what is the claim ?]

// Nix..I have appreciated many of your posts "outside of the box...personally ...I think we need more of that...
but not so much the conflict..
Just one mans opinion

Chet K   PS,  I was going to see if Cadman or member Evolvingape  had some input on the bouyancy topic...they built and studied much there....no stone left unturned...

I don't doubt what you say, that they are old members and have contributed a lot. And i fully agree we don't need conflict here, there is too much of it already over the years (as i have read a lot).

I might overreacted a bit when Carrol called out Dave that he "doesn't know what he's talking about" altho he was actually the one who was wrong, but i could have addressed that in bit smoother way.

As for Turbo, he also has a bit of an attitude and when he replies to my thread calling it false or whatever while also being wrong (like buoyancy thing), i also have a bit of short fuse.

But again, we all need to be calmer and think twice before reacting, not just me, all of us.

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2020, 01:47:42 AM »
At another forum they think V terminal might be for some negative bias and that it would be tapped between V and ground with a cap inbetween not to short the input on negative halfcycle. No one knows for sure and i guess it doesn't really matter.

Another question emerged from this, when i asked them isn't that cap between V and ground shorting the input on negative halfcycle this guy answered that cap once charged no longer conducts. I said, yea, but that is clearly not correct, all these caps charge up and stay charged and yet they do conduct. To this they have remained silent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litsAzP4oqw

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
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Offline Thaelin

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2020, 08:12:50 AM »
Standard rule there: a capacitor will block DC and pass AC.

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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2020, 07:07:26 PM »
Standard rule there: a capacitor will block DC and pass AC.

Yes, that is a general rule, but obviously it's not that simple.

We all know cap is like open circuit for DC and low frequencies according to XC= -1/2πfC, higher the frequency lesser the reactance just like the opposite is true for an inductor XL= 2πfL.

If we feed it AC of higher frequency it is like closed circuit, no mystery here, it charges and discharges on each halfcycle, displacement current passing through it all the time.

Another case is when it's used to filter out the bias in class a and b amps. So we feed it pulsed DC and yet only the AC component passes through. Interesting effect if you look into it, how does it "know" where to place the 0, input voltage can vary at various levels, for example from 1 to 3V or from 3 to 5V, yet the cap "knows" and places zero at +1.5V or 4V automatically.

And finally, the example of voltage multiplier. Let's see exactly what happens, when C1 charges to 12V, now source changes direction, if there was no other cap, C1 would now discharge and charge to 12V in other direction. All sweet and clear.

But since C2 is there, 12V from the source + 12V on the cap (now in same direction) charge C2 to 24V, and yet this does not discharge the C1 and charge it in other direction. I find this very strange.

EDIT: C1 DOES discharge when charging C2 to 24V. I was misinformed by youtube guy The Organic Chemistry Tutor. I knew how basic doubler works but i took his word for granted.

What happens is simple with this correction. When C1 and source charge C2 to 24V C1 is now discharged but on next (negative) halfcycle C1 is charged to 12V again. AT THE SAME TIME (in parallel) 12V from source + 24V on C2 charge C3 to 24V (36V - 12V on C1). This discharges C2 but on next (positive) halfcycle it gets charged to 24V again and at the same time 12V from source + 12V on C1 + 24V on C3 charge C4 also to 24V (48V-24V). And so on in same manner.
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Re: Russian voltage multiplicator stacking
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