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ayeaye:
If you say Newton magnets, i think it's the same as the Coulomb model. In the Coulomb model, each pole has a perfectly spherical field. This means that anything, in relation to any pole, is in its spherical field. No matter how many poles are nearby. This means a complete symmetry, and thus theoretically there cannot be overunity in such model. Overunity thus needs some asymmetry, that is some non-Coulomb irregularity.

You may go on no matter how clever with that model, balance magnets in no matter how many complicated ways, none of that can provide overunity, because the system is inherently symmetric. You may not like what i said, but please also listen to the theoretical points of view of the others. You are always free to criticize my work.

Floor:
@ eyeeye

If you do, due dilagence in your topic / measurements you will find that it requires more work to separate
two magnets in attraction form one another, when they are slid side ways, than the work done when they
are pulled directly apart.

Although peak force is greater when pulling them directly apart.

This is not true of all magnet shapes and polar orientations. It is generally true of wafer shaped ceramic magnets,
when the poles are on the broad faces (like the ones I most commonly use).

floor

Floor:

Newton's magnets
Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
But allso
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those magnets. To see an example of this illustrated, open the PDF attached below.

1. To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing" @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld" @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video,
titled "TDForceDiagramed"

at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video
watch https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or to see yet another, completely different method of neutralizing magnet actions (by brute force)
see this video @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

5. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed"

6. or watch this video titled "direct approach" @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

7. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1" @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

8. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2" @
https://www.dailymotion.com/videox7f0o4w
floor
SEE THIS "Newton's magnets" PDF BELOW
https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/

https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/174720/

best wishes
floor

ayeaye:

--- Quote from: Floor on September 04, 2019, 09:48:59 PM ---We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those magnets.

--- End quote ---

Not exactly, but yes, not doing work against the sum of forces because the forces balance. But when we hold one pole of the first magnet against the side of the second magnet. Then when moving the first magnet away, the repulsion force between the first magnet and one pole of the second magnet, does work. And we work against the attraction force between the first magnet and another pole of the second magnet. But these works are equal and done in the opposite directions, as the result the total work done is zero.

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