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Title: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 02, 2018, 04:56:37 PM
There are already so many in the world, materials about devices, without a combustible energy of a closed type.

My little book with an interesting look at the essence of the things of this topic. It turns out that nothing contradicts traditional physics. In the book, I consider the mechanical devices of this direction, analyze the reality of their work with production and excess energy. I just want to note that the flywheel is an accumulator of kinetic energy, in constant mode it will not work, because it is molded into the structure according to the formula: engine + flywheel + generator. It is like moving a capacitor between a battery and a light bulb and waiting for the capacitor to give out too much. Take a sober look at the principles of operation of the Adams and Bedini devices, namely electromechanical devices. There's just a gift for the builder of a fuel-free device. I describe my vision of Andrei Slobodyan’s devices and where his system intersects with Adams principle. Analysis of Tesla's electric generators for gas turbines and two-phase ones. I suggest that you need to change and get a reduction in input torque to zero, and how will the induction algorithm. How to create efficient engines for self-propelled power generation systems. How to integrate everything on one axis. The book is attached to the calculation system (in Excel), where you can calculate the optimal operating parameters of the flywheel, the engine to it and power can be removed from the generator. How to remove this power, my thoughts in the book. Terms of use of the transmission with the calculations of dependencies.
I wish you all energy independence
Sincerely, Serge Rakarskiy.

https://sites.google.com/view/immortality-free-energy/non-fuel-energy-generating-device?authuser=0
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 23, 2019, 08:12:07 AM
Very old movie. Author site with the project is closed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al5qI17G6hU

https://freesystemsenergy.blogspot.com/2019/01/project-source-free-energy-do-it.html
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: F6FLT on January 23, 2019, 11:31:04 AM
Very conventional motor. No secret, not even that of making easy money with people's credulity.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 23, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
Very conventional motor. No secret, not even that of making easy money with people's credulity.

After the first acquaintance, I also decided that the most common, but in the analysis turned out to be, quite an original and unusual design solution.
In my material, I propose, besides the possible variants of this configuration, two original designs. And I do it for the English-speaking space, only because of those who have already submitted an application with a desire to participate in this project. I always warn everyone not to be sure that I will not get it, I discourage many people not to get it, that I’ve smelled something that is useless for a client.

https://freesystemsenergy.blogspot.com/2019/01/project-source-free-energy-do-it.html
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 03, 2019, 06:06:51 PM
A material has been proposed that reveals the half-century secret of the device (https://freesystemsenergy.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-generator-simplest-device-overunity.html), which is the simplest generator without fuel. For the first time information about such a device appeared in the United States "about the emergency lighting system." A device by two US Army soldiers was smuggled into the United States. It was a simple device that did not need wind, fuel, or another source. He had a simple collector switch, while the device uninterruptedly ensured the burning of several light bulbs. Thus began the era of Free Energy devices, engine type - 2 in 1 generator (ROTOVERT). The studies of Ron Cole, the projects of Robert Adams, Bill Muller, John Bedini, Joe Flynn and others are based on the effect that was laid in this simple device from Germany.
Devices can achieve an efficiency of more than 1000%.
All this is based on the classical principles of physical processes. Calculated according to classic formulas. Classical physics does not deny such devices; they are denied by the “traditional goal-oriented education” and world-famous people, whose strength is based on control over the production of energy and its sale. The device produces a constant current, and the greater the current in the consumer circuit, the greater the revolutions of the magnetic rotor. Reaction is not a brake, but only acceleration. As Robert Adams said, even a schoolchild can assemble this device (conventionally, of course, paying attention to the simplicity of the method, no one has yet canceled the technology for manufacturing elements for rotating products). The device in its final form replaces or supplements: wind turbines, solar batteries, battery-oriented or working with an inverter at a fixed (conditional) load. The possibilities of the wire section as no one has canceled. The material is an analytical and creative work, for many years trying to unravel the mystery of the motor Adams Bedini. Mueller's system did not understand the logic as a generator. As a result of the development of its own, UNI generator idea, a scheme was built, and it became obvious to me that the rest of the machines operate on the principle of open access. We always invent what has already been invented and hidden. The material reveals the possible and logical engine of the Andrei Slobodian system generator. Difficulty switching options. But only one is logical. Do not create illusions in power, size does matter.
     At the moment, only the Russian-language edition is available.  (https://freesystemsenergy.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-generator.html)A version in English is being prepared, which I plan to release soon. You will be surprised. The genius and simplicity of the solution.

In the first book, the price is reduced (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/non-fuel-energy-generating-device)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 03, 2019, 08:15:20 PM
Hello,  you are writing : " Andrei Slobodian" , here we can read : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0) " Svobodian Andrey"
here  https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/9bwls4/infinitysav_team_co_started_to_take_preoders_of/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/9bwls4/infinitysav_team_co_started_to_take_preoders_of/)
entering   "Russian Patent" : Yanchuk Vladimir Petrovich
http://bd.patent.su/2355000-2355999/pat/servl/servlet580e.html (http://bd.patent.su/2355000-2355999/pat/servl/servlet580e.html)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=de&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbd.patent.su%2F2355000-2355999%2Fpat%2Fservl%2Fservlet580e.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=de&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbd.patent.su%2F2355000-2355999%2Fpat%2Fservl%2Fservlet580e.html)
Yanchuk V. Petrovich alias " A. Slobodian" ?

Sincerely               

                OCWL

p.s. : https://rakarskiy.io.ua/v5ba1f4c54d9474d223c7714d50b6385e (https://rakarskiy.io.ua/v5ba1f4c54d9474d223c7714d50b6385e)
          the replication from "Researcher Dmitry"
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 03, 2019, 08:47:02 PM
Good time, lancaIV!
This patent really belongs to Yanchuk, I gave it as an example of the interaction of the windings on the core! The generator of Slobodian, like his “desktop rotator,” I have been studying from the very day of its publication. Last Generator with a motor, I'm not interested. The first two models are Slobodian, interested. However, according to my calculations, the model of 10 kW will not produce more than 5 kW. It has self-rotation, and it is true. But his model is nothing more than the symbiosis of Adams, Muller and Bedini. What could be a patent? A design can only issue a certificate.
I realized this when my model was developed by the UNI generator (second design, my closed Source project (http://project-source.net/)). This method is the same for everyone, we just several times invented what was previously invented and hidden. If you want to safely hide, put in a prominent place and slightly change the information.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: F6FLT on March 04, 2019, 09:29:21 PM
...
In the first book, the price is reduced (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/non-fuel-energy-generating-device)

Why to sell a book $55 if you know the secret of free energy?! 
How can you affirm that you know the secret when you have not been able to build a workable generator?
We have to be damn naive to buy that.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 04, 2019, 10:15:34 PM
Why to sell a book $55 if you know the secret of free energy?! 

Are you probably joking about the secret? For such a sum, just hand out. Good lunch is more expensive. And more importantly, the “Big Secret” is still on the way: “there is little time for translation”!
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 11:22:05 AM
Are you probably joking about the secret? For such a sum, just hand out. Good lunch is more expensive. And more importantly, the “Big Secret” is still on the way: “there is little time for translation”!

I wouldn't even accept the sum if I was paid to read such huckster's spiel.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 05, 2019, 12:22:40 PM
 ;D
I wouldn't even accept the sum if I was paid to read such huckster's spiel.

There is such a slogan "Everyone judges others by applying their own face to the assessment," are you probably the one who labeled me? Or do you work for a financial clan? Or you have no idea in the technique.
Good luck if you can be ......
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 01:47:50 PM
;D
There is such a slogan "Everyone judges others by applying their own face to the assessment," are you probably the one who labeled me? Or do you work for a financial clan? Or you have no idea in the technique.
Good luck if you can be ......

We see nothing here from you except an advertisement for your book at $55, with childish mentions as "top secret".   ::)
Pathetic.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 05, 2019, 01:55:32 PM
We see nothing here from you except an advertisement for your book at $55, with childish mentions as "top secret".   ::)
Pathetic.
For reference, look at the section in which my offer is posted!  ;)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: hiwater on March 05, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
What else can you say about the german device smuggled out of Germany.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 06, 2019, 08:05:37 PM
Ability to pay for Bitcoins and download the book immediately after the payment. (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/non-fuel-energy-generating-device)
Direct link to the operator.
 (https://www.digiseller.market/asp2/pay_wm.asp?id_d=2608365&lang=ru-RU)
I do not have the ability to accept Paypal. The Paypal operator made it impossible to accept payments to the wallets of my country.


Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: F6FLT on March 07, 2019, 05:40:42 PM
Ability to pay for Bitcoins and download the book immediately after the payment...
No, thank you, my library is already well filled with science fiction books and children's stories.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 07, 2019, 07:22:37 PM
Good news! The store, which hosts an electronic book with a tabular payment system, allows you to conduct transactions through PayPal. True commission, store and Paypal, raised the final price.
Link to my website with information (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/non-fuel-energy-generating-device?authuser=0)
Link to the store page (https://www.plati.market/itm/bez-topliva-i-tajny-ustrojstva-svobodnoj-ehnergii/2608365?lang=en-US)

* Information for trolls, thanks to you, you just made an advertisement.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: F6FLT on March 11, 2019, 10:53:29 AM
The troll is the one who hijacks this discussion forum to make money with pseudo-scientific crap.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 11, 2019, 04:18:32 PM
The troll is the one who hijacks this discussion forum to make money with pseudo-scientific crap.

https://youtu.be/tab04qqeFwI
You can not say "impossible" if all the options have not been tested ........
How many devices have you seen? who received electricity, and they did not need: fuel, sunshine, a hurricane or a waterfall.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 14, 2019, 11:53:23 AM
NEW!
The method without fuel, the generation of electric energy, which really works according to all the laws of classical physics.
The main thing is that this is a very simple circuit and a combination of magnetic switching.
The greater the load, the higher the speed of rotation of the magnetic rotor. The system provides DC. Legs grow out of the simplest device from Germany during the Second World War!
The network is not very, like to talk on this topic. Small notes Bedini. It is very likely that acquaintance with this project determined the further goal of creating the devices of radio engineer John Bedini. According to the works of Robert Adams and Bill Muller, these people are far from amateur in the world of electricity.
But, as rumors, about two German all-electric submarines. captured by the Russians at the end of the second world war? You can search for evidence, or unravel the device, I prefer the second option.
Devices can achieve efficiency of more than 1000%, and this is not a joke!
Learn how the method intersects when building Andrey Slobodyan.
After getting acquainted with the method, you will have only one reaction: “How elementary it all is!”

Interesting! Go to the store page for a purchase! (https://my.digiseller.com/inside/good_link.asp?id_d=2613368)

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 14, 2019, 12:21:24 PM
" .... Devices can achieve efficiences of more than 1000% and this is not a joke  ! ... "
A nice example,  relatively new entry ' static generator' related :
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE102014017612A1/de (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE102014017612A1/de)
MEG ,Bearden et al., referencing.
An hundred Volt-Ampere generating device, probably with C.O.P. 10x would be enough, is it not ?  ;) For the process demonstration and later magnification to 3 KVA private household e- plant following theE.U. "Zero Energy Building" in-situ power generation program.

Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: the inventor his profession : Dr. Dipl.- Ing.   
   
         Probably he, if alive,  can help to develop the  " < 1000 Euros/ 3 KVA movement" !
        Or is your A-Generator cheaper to construct and to deliver,  Mr. Rakarsky. ?        Included technical certification approvement ( ~ UAL, TUEV,.... ) !?
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 14, 2019, 01:14:19 PM
" .... Devices can achieve efficiences of more than 1000% and this is not a joke  ! ... "
A nice example,  relatively new entry ' static generator' related :
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE102014017612A1/de (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE102014017612A1/de)
MEG ,Bearden et al., referencing.
An hundred Volt-Ampere generating device, probably with C.O.P. 10x would be enough, is it not ?  ;) For the process demonstration and later magnification to 3 KVA private household e- plant following theE.U. "Zero Energy Building" in-situ power generation program.

Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: the inventor his profession : Dr. Dipl.- Ing.   
   
         Probably he, if alive,  can help to develop the  " < 1000 Euros/ 3 KVA movement" !
        Or is your A-Generator cheaper to construct and to deliver,  Mr. Rakarsky. ?        Included technical certification approvement ( ~ UAL, TUEV,.... ) !?

lancaIV, I think that the method described in my book is not unique. IT'S ELEMENTARY! The method is based on the most classical postulates in the physics of electricity and magnetism. Combination action and logical chain of switching. The method has a reverse side, it is the dependence of the load. In the middle of the 20th century, this was decided by controlling through a rheostat, today it is possible with electronics and power semiconductors. The main thing is to work correctly with the magnetic field. MEG is also on my list of developments, and I already know how to make it based on the material of the book.

Your reference to an MEG patent echoes this construction. Performed by one young electronics engineer from Russia.
https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s2628957/magnitnorezonansnyy_istochnik_energii

I conceived a slightly different design. according to the method that they "hid", and I pull him upstairs. the problem of modern engineers in the traditional and reference books. We must think and consider ourselves.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 14, 2019, 07:56:36 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Frakarskiy.io.ua%2Fs2628957%2Fmagnitnorezonansnyy_istochnik_energii (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Frakarskiy.io.ua%2Fs2628957%2Fmagnitnorezonansnyy_istochnik_energii)
It surprised me,  really  ! Mostly negative !

A.  the outer effect : influence up to 10 meters
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bfs.de%2FDE%2Fthemen%2Femf%2Fnff%2Fberichte%2Fstat-magnetfeld%2Fstat-magnetfelder.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bfs.de%2FDE%2Fthemen%2Femf%2Fnff%2Fberichte%2Fstat-magnetfeld%2Fstat-magnetfelder.html)
Officially not harm for us people but disturbing , unshielded, WLAN-communication
B. The correlation power/ weight ratio by this little radiant gain : calculated 12 V x 20 mA = 0,24 VA

    4166 x such devices ~ 1 KVA output
    7000 x such devices ~ 1 KW output
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 14, 2019, 08:23:03 PM
lancaIV, it all depends on the right question. In Russia, there are materials by the author Gromov, from Nizhny Novgorod. Convector with permanent magnets is described with a theoretical justification. Gromov is the author of many ideas from a resonant transducer to a mechanical generator without reaction. According to rumors, there is no secret death. And the boy, from his own experience, did not understand where he grew up a little. I described. A permanent magnet is a free source of the field. In Kapanadze's patent there is an element number 9 in the scheme (Current Amplifier); it is the key to its installation.

As for the field processing, in the Russian-speaking audience since the end of 2015, a project of bio-resonance technology has been developed that is accessible to everyone. "Coils Mishin", (on behalf of the author), but in fact a mixture of fields works wonders. You may doubt it, but I personally experienced it myself and did more than one as an experiment.

I refused to choose circuits (https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80+%D0%BA+%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC+%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwim7MGProLhAhUs2aYKHRxUBeIQsAR6BAgDEAE&biw=1600&bih=757), but the main thing is the “resonator” bifilar, connected in capacitive


Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 14, 2019, 09:54:24 PM
EEG, ECG, CRT, MRI/MRA,.......

I do not have to disbelieve the effect from bio-resonance treatment,  for the good like for the bad  !
After mind/brain machines in the late 80/90 now body nanoscale bio-medicinal operation.

Tumor cell also with local infra-red radiation or cryotech treated.



But my priority here is : the functional and cheap energy/electricity delivering device/plant/generator.

I could help to develop Dr.  Pavel Imris his "capacitive winding generator", but for me the given production costs are to high :  1 KW output total costs ( generator + process controle system)  +/- 1000 Euros
                       2 KW.                                                                                                               1500
Low profit end-consumer price x 1,5 ( patented devices are usual with factor 6 between production costs/ selling price)

I wish the development of a 3 KW/ 50 to 100 Hz generator for 1000 Euros end-consumer price, all inclusive and with a long productive life and no high-skill maintenance need !

Low/ no profit development condition  !

Something like the SIEMENS- patent-department-director Dr. VOLKRODT did applied :
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE3501076A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE3501076A1/en)

I like clear written and understandable and replicateable work :
if there is a need to understand principles such object descriptions like here
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20100321106A1/en
and the listed references/ sources gives information for later physical/ real world realisation
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 15, 2019, 07:55:50 AM
lancaIV, our goals are the same! I have the same one of my tasks: Creating a self-propelled generating device up to 5 kW (kVA). Do you think that only one solution is possible? Much more. My task is to make all types of devices: mechanical, static (on magnets), and on the effect of resonance.
I have groundwork on all three points! The first mechanical is already in design. Approximately 2 kW to start development. Or, a small model for running the principle. (all this I post to the participants of the Project Source (http://project-source.net/) ")
As for your "MEG" s, do you think that it can be built on the principle of a transformer? You're wrong. Everything is much simpler and difficult at the same time.
Read the material: Russian Gromov, it was his work with the keys I tried, but he was also mistaken.
https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s1773029/bloking-generator_s_pitaniem_ot_postoyannyh_magnitov_gromova
The reason is that general information incorrectly explains the operation of the transformer. All were allowed on the wrong path, attributed it to Tesla. The whole world uses the transformer of another person.

Quote
Do not build illusions in power, size does matter. (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-generator-simplest-device-overunity.html)

For example, we take "philistine" indicators of 10 kW, output power, installation. We make simple calculations: for 1 hour of operation, the device produces 10 kW * hours; 24 hours - 240 kWh; in 30 days (24 hours each) it will be already 7200 kW * hours [7.2 MW * hours]! We look at our receipt for the payment of electricity for the calendar month and see how many kW * hours it takes to pay for the meter. Suppose you have an electric stove and hot water. The figure is about 800 kW * hour [0.8 MW * hour]. The question is what to do with the rest of the energy? You cannot store it in a two-room apartment on ... the tenth floor, otherwise you will need a huge battery the size of your apartment. At the same time every month will only stay. You can never sell it, world famous people have determined that you are a buyer, and you only have to pay!
We think further, but how much is needed?

We define average values: 800 kW * hours / 30 days = [26.7] 27 kW * hours per day - this is your average. 27 kWh / 24 hours = 1.125 kWh hours in ONE hour. This is an average figure. Naturally, consumption is uneven, and peak starts for the refrigerator engine and other devices are calculated for a total of 10 kW, but this is a fraction of a second. Then the simultaneous inclusion of devices and other things. The most interesting is that the main points of consumption you have a water heater and refrigerator. I see their power. The average power of the refrigerator ranges from 100 to 200 W / h (at rest), the maximum is 300 W / h (with the compressor running), that is, an average of about 250 W. Do not forget that the refrigerator is connected, working 24 hours a day. You can look at other electric indicators LINK. Directly connect the consumer to the generator, for example, 220 V / 50 Hz, single phase, you need to have enough power for peak starts, while ensuring that the voltage does not fall below 220 V AC. Such a mechanism was developed using a network inverter and buffer storage in the form of a battery of appropriate capacity. For stable operation, it is enough for us to have an output power of an autonomous generating device with permanent magnets with an indicator of 1.3-1.4 kW. According to his estimates, the battery capacity will be several times, and again, several times less than for a solar-powered device. How the home network on the 15th floor or in your house can look like is shown in the pictures:

FIGURE (SCHEME) (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WOrgaOa84QM/XIpkwt91ziI/AAAAAAAAN2U/xJm1j_m_8QEtXrIeh8En3nq_rHYrwA7pACLcBGAs/s1600/000%25D0%259F%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BC%25D0%25B5%25D1%2580.jpg)

You can use your home network. It is enough to disconnect the circuit breaker from the network, and to turn on the socket circuit, the output of the convector is 220 V / 50 Hz DC / AC from the home network with free energy from the magnetic generator.



Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 15, 2019, 01:01:53 PM
Yes, there is the/a difference between on-grid and off-grid energy consume behaviour and power logistic !

About peak-consume and regulation :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950529&CC=ZA&NR=9407569B&KC=B# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950529&CC=ZA&NR=9407569B&KC=B#)

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9456 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9456)
For "autonom living the comparison between conventional and "oeko(logic/nomic) household :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oeko-energie.de%2Fprodukte%2Fsolarstrom-photovoltaik%2Fsparsame-dc-verbraucher%2Findex.php (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oeko-energie.de%2Fprodukte%2Fsolarstrom-photovoltaik%2Fsparsame-dc-verbraucher%2Findex.php)
             18,65 KWh or 3,02 KWh
( I am missing in the listage the bread-backing-machine 800 W,  the Air2water generator 600 W,room heating in winter, .....)


Mr. Chalko,  mtbest " 0,8 KWh electricity per day ".   https://mtbest.net/energy_efficiency.html (https://mtbest.net/energy_efficiency.html)
+- 2 sqm solarcell( + reflector in Aussi winter)  and battery-set makes him autonom
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For 4 billion earth habitants the "1 KWh electric power per day" is actually sufficient                                                       
                       ~ 125 W generator ( 9 hours work per day)  + 0,5- 1 KWh. battery-set
And how much do we ( physical and perfect organized really ?) need  ?

For the civilized europide family house a 3 KWh battery-set and "...?..." KW generator,  battery and electric consumer charging,  should be sufficient  !
"...?...": 3,2,1  KW. ?  24 hours day program and (K)Wp and (K)Wa measure and regulation,  peak/ average

Not an hundred Watt prototype,  but a thousand Watt prototype will become the
" Zero Energy Building" program  demonstrating object  !

BTW : some wants to explain " free energy " easy,  it is the permanent magnet : the source. !
https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2528257A1/fr (https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2528257A1/fr)" .... soit remplacee pour un electroaimant. "
So the permanent magnet can be -also- the source,  but which is -really the source. !( the Imris generator works also with/-out permanent magnet)

  Lenz current/ Ampere turns-pulse ratio
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 15, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
For the civilized europide family house a 3 KWh battery-set and "...?..." KW generator,  battery and electric consumer charging,  should be sufficient  !
"...?...": 3,2,1  KW. ?  24 hours day program and (K)Wp and (K)Wa measure and regulation,  peak/ average

Not an hundred Watt prototype,  but a thousand Watt prototype will become the
" Zero Energy Building" program  demonstrating object  !

Wie Sie sehen, verstehen Sie und ich das wirklich. Was ist persönliche Energie? Zunächst gab es Gerüchte über einen Generator aus Deutschland, der ganz am Ende des Krieges aufgetaucht war, nur eine fantastische Geschichte. Ich beziehe mich immer auf die "Frage", um zu leugnen, dass dies unmöglich ist. Sie müssen auch "Unmöglichkeit" beweisen. Am Ende habe ich es gelernt. Dank seiner eigenen Forschung, Materialien Bedini und Cole. Und beim deutschen Elektro-U-Boot beträgt die Wahrscheinlichkeit ebenfalls 100%. All dies kann reproduziert werden, wenn sich die Deutschen für das Problem ihrer Geschichte interessieren. Ebenfalls in Russland erschien 1959 ein interessanter Elektromotor, der auf dem Auto installiert wurde, der Autor Stovbunenko. Sind die Behörden sofort verschlüsselt? Übrigens ist der gerippte Rotor eines Schrittmotors eine Erfindung von Stovbunenko.

https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/a-generator

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 15, 2019, 08:04:00 PM
                                                                I.

A motor with electricity feedback,  kind roto-verter

http://geminielectricmotor.com/ (http://geminielectricmotor.com/)                                          now patent rights free

                                                               II.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040129308 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040129308)       which physical process and material. ?

A kind of "electric motor infeeder" :material. ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A#)
the description translation :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2007028879&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2007028879&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en)

                                                  I.  + II.  combination

                                     Caution : inrush power demand phase ( f. e.  inrush current limiter)

                                      TARGET : electric net zero energy motor
                           -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                     electric net zero energy motor application :

 In India 50% from agrar fruit and vegetables are lost per year because they have not cooling chambers.
( Pakistan?  Africa?  South-/ Middle-America)

 With low cost cooling devices like

 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890210&CC=FR&NR=2619201A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890210&CC=FR&NR=2619201A1&KC=A1#)

or
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830601&CC=DE&NR=3143534A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830601&CC=DE&NR=3143534A1&KC=A1#)
description translation :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3143534&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3143534&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
          Partial wrong translation : no-where " uranium" in the process or in the German original documents written


which they can produce in their own country  and get the " Net Zero Energy Cooling"- state.


Cooling for air humidity condensation and to get drink water is a second big priority.

And clearly fridge for medicine deposit.

In North-America the heat pumps/ chiller with electric net zero energy motor equipped.

E-bikes with net zero energy motors,.........
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 15, 2019, 09:19:11 PM
 lancaIV, You probably want to surprise me. Do not try, I know all this for a long time. In Russia, for 15 years they have been producing and selling heat pumps of engineer Urpin. Our name is CAVITATIONAL MECHANICAL DEVICE.
Motors in America? The simple question is that then Ilon Musk on his car Tesla puts unprofitable asynchronous motor. Motor Joe Flynn in America and the motor Grigory Kornilov in Russia are closed for consumption by the bad guys.
Believe me, I have enough of their development.
I know their device. If they do not disclose, I will calculate it by engineering and analytical method.

This forum has information about Karll Luther's patent. Asymmetric - symmetric method for constructing a generator. In the park with the motor of the digit from his patent: 0.6 kW input, 7.2 kW output. You know the method I know. I came to him earlier than the information appeared. but Carl opened it much earlier than me. So it turns out that we invent something. what others have invented before. I want to say this in my book (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/index/a_generator_over_unity/0-23).

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 15, 2019, 09:57:08 PM
No,  I do not want to surprise you but only recycle the known information and development results which will become part of our technical future.

Elon Musk,  native South-African,  did not constitued Tesla Motors!
He later participated by this existent company as investor and became " awarded"( for the investment compensation ) as CEO.

And the use from such a " heavy over-powered electric engine", like the other so called " Premium Class Cars" do,
is from technical view stupid,especially by velocity regulated transit: 120-130 Km per hour max. !

My " Fun Car Class" https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html (https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html)                                 
                                             37 "KW AC" /220 N*m peak

Test-drive : 12 KWh average in,  3 KWh recuperation = 9 KWh net/100 Km
                   -------------------

"Es juckt mich ": drop away the 37 KW AC drive and install instead
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#)
Included : 4 x electric net zero energy motor
and https://www.interpatent.de/ (https://www.interpatent.de/)    Electricity from the suspension ( for the heater / winter)
 
Cheap and appropriate :
https://forkenswift.com/electric-car-conversion-cost.htm (https://forkenswift.com/electric-car-conversion-cost.htm)
                ---------------------
"Karl Luther" and his development is for me unknown !

Have a nice weekend
OCWL

p.s. : https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#)
 independent from the power source, for example instead "alleged" motor-generator a battery-set and inverter :           
                             [0001]  a conventional nominal 1,5 KW /4000 RPM as e-drive  ( for urban cars)

                           Small is beautyfull            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1QW1-q3NklE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1QW1-q3NklE)                                                                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiviT-C_oY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiviT-C_oY)
http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12 (http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12)                                      "    up to 100 times less energy  "                            also as compressed air/ electric motor hybrid
https://launchforth.io/dsm123/meteor-electric-hybrid-car-with-di-pietro-motor-rotary-air-engine-with-compressed-air/overview/ (https://launchforth.io/dsm123/meteor-electric-hybrid-car-with-di-pietro-motor-rotary-air-engine-with-compressed-air/overview/)
p. s.  II : https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/air-cycle              related is the Jacques Boone rotative heat pump,  it is not based by cavitation
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 16, 2019, 09:03:34 AM
Good weekend! I make thoughts around the clock, here I have no days off!
Your post, about the magnetic flux.

Probably a help:
The first point:Prof. Ehrenhaft and his magnetic current explaination.
The second:we ,the humans,can not remark free U/IR-Radiation,
a radiation without temperature !
But when this radiation has not temperature ergo this radiation has(would) not (have) movement!
(Maxwell/Boltzmann)
Which is the source ?

In my book, I directly point out the heterogeneity of magnetic and electric play. Primary MAGNETIC FIELD. And the poles of Magnit are points of contact with other dimensions.
To create a device we don’t need to drive to other dimensions. It is enough to properly use what is in sight.

The book. A-Generator, 1st Free Energy Generator. (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/index/a_generator_over_unity/0-23)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2019, 11:40:52 AM
                                  Referring 2005 posted info :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19690218&CC=US&NR=3428867A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19690218&CC=US&NR=3428867A&KC=A#)


  What he ,Ramos Suarez, described about the output and the "restriction" of use ? ( what wrote Bedini about "radiant energy" ?)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#)
Only for battery charging,  by actual high KWh battery prices this  kind of devices are not the solution.Probably later for electric car battery-/capacitor bank loading.
Also Dr. Pavel Imris flip-flop battery bank cycle has the actual " battery KWh price" malus :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20180125&CC=DE&NR=102016008893A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20180125&CC=DE&NR=102016008893A1&KC=A1#)
I am not in the search and development of 10 or 5 Eurocent per KWh generators.
The target is the for the industrial process ready " 1 Euro-cent/KWh" and " 250 Euros/ KW" energy converting device with pure DC or pure AC.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 22, 2019, 01:06:10 PM
I have no goal at all, to adapt to the energy standards of the bad guys. The goal is a personal energy, excluding counters the bad guys. A device that will provide energy to the household. My dream is already there, a simple repeatable device.
Circuit as it should be, using the household's usual electrical circuit. (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_si/0/19966480.jpg)



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Personal Electric (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: kampen on March 27, 2019, 08:01:49 PM
Dear Rakarsky,
Just curious, did You ever build a working "Electro Magnetic Selfpropelled Generator" ?
Or You are just selling circuits?

Let me know.
Alex
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on March 29, 2019, 12:59:09 PM
Dear Alex! First, I do not sell schemes, in your understanding.       
If you are interested in schemes, they are sold on this resource: http://birukov.biz/index.php?mod_id=1   I do not give guarantees, not my resource!
My material is the analysis of systems and mechanisms of the corresponding direction. When I'm told to prove it, I won't ! Everyone chooses what to do! I do not follow the rules of the consumer market, as the principle of free energy contradicts the standards of the consumer market. No developed country is allowed to mass produce and sell similar mechanisms. This undermines the dominance of the consumer market, to consume more power for the money.
I can only say that yesterday the participants of the "Source" project were sent a guide to designing, building and setting up a small model (250 mm x 250 mm x 150 mm) with an estimated maximum output of 0.4-0.5. kW (efficiency of about 1500-2000%). All according to the rules of engineering calculation of classical physics. I do not plan to translate into English yet, as the project has two interesting new models ahead and a lot of work.

http://project-source.net/news/motor_generator_ragen_raschetnaja_ehffektivnost_sor_2000/2019-03-28-7
http://project-source.net/_nw/0/35542017.jpg

You can regard it all as a bluff, you are not prohibited in it.

The my books "Personal Free Energy systems (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F)"


Dear Rakarsky,
Just curious, did You ever build a working "Electro Magnetic Selfpropelled Generator" ?
Or You are just selling circuits?

Let me know.
Alex
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on August 25, 2020, 03:50:08 PM
For information! I don't impose myself on anyone, my work is presented in Russian. Hydroelectric power station in a bucket of water, without a dam or waterfall. I checked all the calculation methods several times, and the output data! This corresponds to all the rules of academic physics and the requirements of the law of conservation of energy in the Bernoulli equation. I'm not raising the price, I didn't come up with anything, I just calculated the optimal design. This book is a summary of how I made a mistake, how I finally found a solution. The material is accompanied by spreadsheets with the specified calculation algorithm (just insert the source data).  To properly use a Pelton turbine that uses a microhydroelectric.  For the calculation, I took the parameters of the Chinese microelectric power plant (they put their parameters on the display) and logically calculated, having previously studied and sifted a lot of information on the topic. The optimal formula for calculating the torque on the turbine shaft is derived. I'm just surprised how easy it is.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/07/blog-post.html
https://plati.market/itm/tajna-napora-vody-mini-gehs-v-vedre/2920625?lang=en-US

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 24, 2020, 11:14:23 PM
My book is devoted to the main secret of an autonomous hydrogenerator, which eliminates all the contradictions of the hydraulic circuit and makes it possible even to make it yourself.
A book in English with a calculator (in an Excel workbook) to calculate the system.
Everything you can buy. To be done: a tank (in the dimension of a barrel) and a simple hydraulic reducer.
My humble job, now the bad guys can't stop you from making a free power generator.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html


https://plati.market/itm/3039038?lang=en-US

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 25, 2020, 03:57:46 PM
Do you really think these generators are from Canada, a Scam? http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/index.html

Portable Generator Runs on Water!!‬ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FquMihzI-E&feature=emb_logo

I can tell you exactly how this is possible.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 25, 2020, 06:22:21 PM

@ Rakarskiy

So you don't have a self propelled mechanical generating device.

        But you are selling a book titled as self propelled mechanical generating device ?

   floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 25, 2020, 08:24:26 PM
And what confuses you in this. You may not have a standalone hydro generator on the nineteenth floor, but you know how to build one. Many design engineers, researchers work with their heads, and this is their tool. And many certified reference engineers are not creative, discontent makes them "experts." In order for the turner to make a detail, someone invented it initially.

I don't want to offend anyone, but
the book "Personal mechanical autonomous power plants" has long been freely read (in Russian).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M-CH8dRvTcXKPilLFS_TgDYHQmO6_7Qe/view?usp=sharing
There are no step-by-step instructions for a particular model, but there are many calculated analysis points.


A hydroelectric generator is being built according to the method from the book, I think when it is built, the price will rise. Thanks to this very replication, it was possible to clarify the points and build a logical hydraulic chain. A book about a hydroelectric generator, which has a step-by-step calculation algorithm, with an explanation: why and how. Moreover, there is a summary calculation in Excel with the entered formulas, it remains only to enter the data on the labels of the tips and see if the hydraulic circuit is calculated correctly or not. Plus how much generator power can be connected.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 27, 2020, 12:33:02 AM
My book is devoted to the main secret of an autonomous hydrogenerator, which eliminates all the contradictions of the hydraulic circuit and makes it possible even to make it yourself.
A book in English with a calculator (in an Excel workbook) to calculate the system.
Everything you can buy. To be done: a tank (in the dimension of a barrel) and a simple hydraulic reducer.
My humble job, now the bad guys can't stop you from making a free power generator.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html

https://plati.market/itm/3039038?lang=en-US

Nice Pelton wheel. Cool water pressure power.

quote rakarskiy
         "My book is devoted to the main secret of an autonomous hydrogenerator,
          which eliminates all the contradictions of the hydraulic circuit and makes
          it possible even to make it yourself. "
end quote

Your above statement doesn't even make sense.
                              and

The electric generator posted by you, @

https://overunity.com/18002/the-book-is-dedicated-to-self-propelled-mechanical-generating-devices/dlattach/attach/179732/

does not run on water just water .....

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 11:31:14 AM
Floor, interesting conclusion you have, very informative, like a real Troll system.
First, about Canadians:
https://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/4350/65/43506569.jpg
but in this hydraulic circuit there is no element that eliminates the contradiction of the pressure difference in the nozzle. The solution I suggested, allows the use of pumps with an internal pressure of 2.2 atm.

Second: on the force of water pressure on the blades of the Pelton turbine bucket
(publicly available information, see attachment, this is data from academic sources in physics)


About the price for the manufacture of the installation:
Pump - 355 USD; Generator -250 USD; Pelton turbine - 120-200 USD; Water tank - 50-100 USD (it is possible to use a simple 200 l iron barrel); Manufacturing of a hydraulic reducer up to 350-400 USD; Pump inverter - 210 USD; Charge control electrical circuits - 100 USD
Total: $ 1535 without taking into account the work on calculations, assembly with consumables on trifles and adjustment. But at the same time, you get a self-propelled hydroelectric power plant without a river and a waterfall. Price for material  38-40 USD (0.026 of the price of the components described in the material) for information and a calculator. This information is for those who do not understand that the price is a fiction, a modest payment for my work as a researcher, and this is an uneven exchange on my part, in fact, a gift).

So your efforts, like a troll, are very ineffective. On Russian sites, the trolls from the commission for combating pseudoscience have clear instructions to ignore me, since your actions are doomed to failure, my truth is.

Perhaps I am mistaken in assessing your actions as "trolling", then I apologize, but your attack is nothing more than emptiness.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on November 27, 2020, 12:25:12 PM
Hello,rakarsky !
Hope You are well in these times !

#29 and Karl Luther for me still unknown

But my question is hydrodynamics ,scientifical : University/Academy of Sciences level,related :

object :

Valentin Kutienkov and Vlatcheslav Marukhin( Maroukhine) hydro ram pump device
 f.e.more detailed exposed by rexresearch and the swiss ( Mr&Mrs. Schneider) borderlands.de
description from the functional physical process


Now : based by WHOM,russian/sovjet Physics pioneer his re-/search and thesis foundation/explanation ?
When I reed the first time about this Widder-ram pump (Herons closed cycle in remembering) I searched in many foren ,also in russians, and found in one,for me now unknown ,
the link to an eastern scientist,                                                       

                                                      whose


     constitued the basic knowledge in hydrodynamics,Fundamentals

by which the Kutienkov/Marukhin device physical process  can be explained ,(should),
worked( prototype teste in the Mediterran Sea) !


Do you know more about this "Pioneer" ,name,his scientifical work ? "Cavitation Dynamics"!?

I hope for well respond

Sincerely

OCWL

     
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 01:16:50 PM
lancaIV, good health!
This is my first and last job in hydraulics. This episode turned out because of the attack on me by representatives of the bad guys. They wanted me to make a mistake, now let them deal with their MOSSAD (just kidding).
There is a patent application you are asking about.
https://yandex.ru/patents/doc/RU2006106647A_20070927
https://patents.s3.yandex.net/RU2006106647A_20070927.pdf

Quote
UNDERWATER ELECTRIC CONVERTER OF STATIONARY WATER GRAVITATIONAL ENERGY
Authors:
Marukhin Vyacheslav Valentinovich (RU)
Kutyenkov Valentin Alexandrovich (RU)
abstract
An underwater electric converter of the gravitational energy of stationary water, consisting of a hydro turbine and an electric generator, characterized in that to obtain a flow of water that rotates a hydro turbine and electricity from an electric generator while consuming only the gravitational energy of stationary water, a device called "Water lifting device" is used, in which the outlet of the discharge pipe connected to the inlet of the hydraulic turbine and the water is drained through the injection pipe and the turbine into the surrounding water.
As you can see, there is no technical information and description here, only a statement of the fact that the device has been patented.
I believe that this is not in the public domain, and all information (supposedly with technical characteristics) may be a false direction and speculation by researchers.

Why That the opinion is cultivated that their installation is a hydrotaran, I cannot say so.
In the system I proposed, there is a pump and there is a hydraulic reduction, but this is purely my research. I can say for sure that everything that we invent has already been invented earlier.

Installation by Carl Luttmer (1986 Australia)
No one can say better than the author himself.
The patent is in the attachment (and how to make such a generator in the simplest way, I indicated in my Russian book)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M-CH8dRvTcXKPilLFS_TgDYHQmO6_7Qe/view?usp=sharing


https://patents.google.com/patent/AU5389086A/en?oq=AU53890%2f86
If we draw an analogy with the upper patent, then there is no information in the Google database. The patent is abandoned. The question is, why limit such an excellent patent?
After all, the statement that 0.6 kW is required at the input, and we get 7.2 kW at the output is a very serious statement.


Sincerely yours!

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 27, 2020, 03:30:42 PM
Ability to pay for Bitcoins and download the book immediately after the payment. (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/non-fuel-energy-generating-device)
Direct link to the operator.
 (https://www.digiseller.market/asp2/pay_wm.asp?id_d=2608365&lang=ru-RU)
I do not have the ability to accept Paypal. The Paypal operator made it impossible to accept payments to the wallets of my country.
first is  my statement.
At the present time I have no problem with  thousands of   US dollars to be spend or given away.. :)
that doesn't mean that I'm a money giver...
 _______________________________________

Few questions:
1. You want  to sale and people wants to pay PayPal with no additional explanations. why you didn't use this:
https://expatukraine.com/reader-questions-does-paypal-work-in-ukraine/#:~:text=How%20To%20Make%20Paypal%20Work%20in%20Ukraine%201 (https://expatukraine.com/reader-questions-does-paypal-work-in-ukraine/#:~:text=How%20To%20Make%20Paypal%20Work%20in%20Ukraine%201),
Ukrainian%20ATMs%20to%20withdrawl%20cash%2C%20and%20rejoice.%20

2. what is the energy conversion mechanism in device  described in your are offering.
Note: I'm not interested with  all of the stories, calculations,  history of the device and position of the people involved.
          All I'm interested with is explanation of energy conversion starting from explanation of :
a. what is the form original energy used by the device.?
b. that original energy (from point a.) is converted to what type of energy till it is converted  into electrical energy at the end of the process?
c. Efficiency  of refrigerator is more than 100% 
    https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-refrigerators-efficiency-be-greater-than-1 (https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-refrigerators-efficiency-be-greater-than-1)
    can you explain to me how the device  described by you has efficiency greater  than 1?
Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 03:55:30 PM
stivep, I'm glad for you that you have no problems.
Firstly, today no real scientist will answer you what electricity, magnetism or gravity are. But that doesn't stop you from generating electricity, making permanent magnets, and using the effects of gravity.

When it comes to payments, I'm not a merchant, I'm a researcher. I am satisfied with the trading platform on which I post my materials. Moreover, there are no restrictions on accepting payments from all over the world. True, I lose more on commissions. I'm not interested in looking for a PayPal method, if not, then no.

As for the essence of the material, about the hydrogenerator. All actions are consistent with the postulates of physics, the law of conservation of energy (mathematical proportion of equilibrium) and Bernoulli's rule and equations.
Generator power calculation according to traditional formulas based on turbine shaft torque.

Want to know what? Read
Do you want to "annoy" me, put it in the public domain
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 27, 2020, 04:21:34 PM

Dear rakarskiy.
Please answer me in the format listed in  my post:
https://overunity.com/18002/the-book-is-dedicated-to-self-propelled-mechanical-generating-devices/msg553496/#msg553496 (https://overunity.com/18002/the-book-is-dedicated-to-self-propelled-mechanical-generating-devices/msg553496/#msg553496)
skip payment questions:
__________________________________

Quote
2. what is the energy conversion mechanism in device  described in your are offering.
Note: I'm not interested with  all of the stories, calculations,  history of the device and position of the people involved.
          All I'm interested with is explanation of energy conversion starting from explanation of :
a. what is the form original energy used by the device.?
b. that original energy (from point a.) is converted to what type of energy till it is converted  into electrical energy at the end of the process?
c. Efficiency  of refrigerator is more than 100% 
    https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-refrigerators-efficiency-be-greater-than-1 (https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-refrigerators-efficiency-be-greater-than-1)
    can you explain to me how the device  described by you has efficiency greater  than 1?

________________________________

The format of  an answer should look like:
Answer to ad a:
the original form of energy used is: ( provide your explanation)
----------------------


answer to ad b: original energy (described in point "a") is converted to : ( provide your explanation - list all of forms of that converted  energy)
----------------------

answer to ad c: the  efficiency of the device  described by me is :( provide your explanation)
and efficiency of  the device described by me is more than 1 because : ( provide your explanation)
-------------------

Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 27, 2020, 05:29:09 PM
Rakarskiy is trolling this forum with intentional vagaries and deceptions.

I have no goal at all, to adapt to the energy standards of the bad guys. The goal is a personal energy, excluding counters the bad guys. A device that will provide energy to the household. My dream is already there, a simple repeatable device.
Circuit as it should be, using the household's usual electrical circuit. (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_si/0/19966480.jpg)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Personal Electric (https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F)

"I have no goal at all, to adapt to the energy standards of the bad guys."
A meaningless and disconnected statement.   While it does imply something and evokes
some kind of a feeling,  it actually gives no information.


"The goal is a personal energy" ?
That is such an ambiguous phrase as to be nothing more than an attempt at deception.
Because what it tries to imply is untrue, it is an out right lie.

"The goal is a personal energy, excluding counters the bad guys."
The phrase is nonsense.

"A device that will provide energy to the household."
An incomplete statement / no context statement.

"My dream is already there, a simple repeatable device."
An incomplete statement /  a no context statement.

The entire paragraph, taken as a whole is also nonsensical.
Your words although they imply that what you are selling is O.U.
device plans, are literally meaningless. 

                         The things they imply are LIES.
                                         
               floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 05:30:36 PM
Wesley, So you can describe the whole book,

I'll try briefly:

The formula of the ketic energy:   Ek = 1/2mv^2; where:  m - mass in kg;  v- speed in m / s.
We write for an example:

Ek = 10kg * 2 m / s = 40 Joules / s   * 0.5 = 20 Joules / s
Ek = 10kg * 50 m / s = 25000 Joules / s * 0.5 = 12500 Joules / s

Rough losses, in a tube are equal to a loss of 1 kg / s (1 l / s)
Ek = 9kg * 50 m / s = 22500 Joules / sec * 0.5 = 11250 Joules / sec

The secret is simple, in increasing the speed of the mass.
And here is how and why, it is not forbidden for anyone to read the book.

I think all other discussions are optional. I do not discuss unread material with the interlocutor.
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 27, 2020, 05:41:02 PM
Wesley, So you can describe the whole book,

I'll try briefly:

The formula of the ketic energy:   Ek = 1/2mv^2; where:  m - mass in kg;  v- speed in m / s.
We write for an example:

Ek = 10kg * 2 m / s = 40 Joules / s   * 0.5 = 20 Joules / s
Ek = 10kg * 50 m / s = 25000 Joules / s * 0.5 = 12500 Joules / s

Rough losses, in a tube are equal to a loss of 1 kg / s (1 l / s)
Ek = 9kg * 50 m / s = 22500 Joules / sec * 0.5 = 11250 Joules / sec


And here is how and why, it is not forbidden for anyone to read the book.

I think all other discussions are optional. I do not discuss unread material with the interlocutor.
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html

                                 Here you go with another of your nonsense statements.

quote
"The secret is simple, in increasing the speed of the mass."
end

  floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on November 27, 2020, 05:49:12 PM
Does a permanent magnet near magnetic force field kind orientation attract
by energy,   by force  , by suction pressure , by ' work' in input neutral units or ever calculateable units ?


-----------------------------------------

2 baskets or 2 tanks ,same/similar,one filled with liquid :

between both 'container' interloctive (locare !) a fix/flexible tube

the tube entering into full/filled container I and :
SUCTION of the tube channel by mouth or mechanical  compressor or also called pump
and filling the outcoming liquid into empty container II,

EVACUATION

external energy free ,or is it not ?
Clearly,dependent some parameters/Praemisse/Praeambel !
Complicated,free flow,I mean not,easy experimental to realize the search/found- sensation !



Deutschland,Bayern, Isar-Amper-Elektrizitaets-Werk,Speicher I Kochelsee,Speicher II Walchensee

Portugal,Braga,Elevador do Bom Jesus wikipedia,Waterballast-train-track,up and or down



Sincerely and a nice weekend wishing
OCWL
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 06:08:41 PM
Westley, I didn't think you were so illiterate. A lot of money, does not give awareness, probably takes away. Read more academic literature.
As far as I remember, you read and understand Russian. I will slightly translate one paragraph of a Russian textbook on physics.
https://scask.ru/j_book_mech.php?id=81
Quote
First of all, let us pay attention to the fact that this force grows very rapidly with increasing fluid velocity. Using the obtained formula, F = pQv^2, it is easy to calculate, for example, that at a speed of 1 m / s the jet will press on every square meter of the obstacle surface with a force of 1000 N (or When the speed increases to 20 m / s, these forces increase to i.e. with an increase in speed only 20 times, the forces increased 400 times
This feature of the action of fast-flowing waters was the cause of many natural phenomena. Huge ravines, riverbeds and river valleys were formed due to the destructive action of such forces created by flood waters. The erosion of sea and lake shores is produced by the same forces arising during the surf. These same forces allow rivers to transport soil eroded by them over long distances.


You probably want to argue with the theory of relativity. Einstein will be angry with you. Although he is a thief, he stole all ideas from his wife, but even in this theory:
Equivalence of mass and energy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence

****

lancaIV, one must follow the path of least resistance. I do not deal with industrial installations, but it is very possible to perform MW, with a smaller volume of water and simpler pumps, and more compact. There is one nuance - the volume, so that there is no strong heating. Canadians have a problem with this, it gets warm. According to rumors, the Americans use similar installations to charge the energy sources of combat lasers, and in Russia in one research institute there are two installations of 5 and 7 MW. "It's not for nothing, Westly, he spawns like that" (Russians have such an expression when the enemy is in a panic)
Have a good weekend

For those interested - Book and calculator at: https://plati.market/itm/3039038?lang=en-US
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 27, 2020, 06:38:39 PM
Wesley, So you can describe the whole book,
The secret is simple, in increasing the speed of the mass.
I was not asking you about any secrets nor your own secrets.I  have ask you to answer simple questions in  format  listed below.

_____________________________________________

Westley, I didn't think you were so illiterate. A lot of money, does not give awareness, probably takes away. Read more academic literature.
I didn't ask for your opinion about me.
And I didn't ask you  to send me to any links.
I didn't ask you for any proof of any theory.
I didn't question, nor deny, nor object, nor doubt, yet, that particular device nor its futures.
___________________________________________
I  DID ASK YOU  TO ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTIONS :
I'm posting again that list:

a. what is the form of original energy used by the device.?
b. that original energy (from point a.) is converted to what type of energy till it is converted  into electrical energy at the end of the process?
c. Efficiency  of refrigerator is more than 100% 
    https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-refrigerators-efficiency-be-greater-than-1 (https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-refrigerators-efficiency-be-greater-than-1)
    can you explain to me how the device  described by you has efficiency greater  than 1?

________________________________

The format of  your answer should look like:
Answer to ad a:
the original form of energy used is: ( provide your explanation)
----------------------


answer to ad b: original energy (described in point "a") is converted to : ( provide in your explanation - the list all of forms of that converted  energy)
----------------------

answer to ad c: the  efficiency of the device  described by me is :( provide your explanation)
and efficiency of  the device described by me is more than 1 because : ( provide your explanation)
-------------------


Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 06:59:12 PM
Wesley  :D
You cannot, by definition, order me! In general, you should be glad that I respond to trolling.

In closed systems, efficiency cannot be more than one by definition.
Considering my self-contained hydrogenerator.
All power generated by the generator cannot exceed 5 kW (for example), but the efficiency is taken as a unit. The pump electric motor consumes 1.5 kW (5-1.5 = 3.5 kW to the consumer).
The efficiency of the installation can be estimated as 3.5 / 5 = 0.7.
But at the same time, the generation process is closed and self-propelled.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 27, 2020, 07:24:47 PM
Wesley  :D
You cannot, by definition, order me! In general, you should be glad that I respond to trolling.

In closed systems, efficiency cannot be more than one by definition.
Considering my self-contained hydrogenerator.
All power generated by the generator cannot exceed 5 kW (for example), but the efficiency is taken as a unit. The pump electric motor consumes 1.5 kW (5-1.5 = 3.5 kW to the consumer).
The efficiency of the installation can be estimated as 3.5 / 5 = 0.7.
But at the same time, the generation process is closed and self-propelled.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html)
At first:
- I didn't order you to answer It was very gentle and pleasant and respectful form of my interaction with you.
- I'm not a troll and I didn't troll you.( there is no money or value making me to do so)

___________________________________________________
Again your answer is not the answer in listed by me format.
If you have problems to understand English I will translate it  into Russian.

____________________________
This is USA and Western World my dear  friend from Russia or Russian influence/ language  region.
If you have wrong  a key you will not open American nor European door.
We have money and  we can buy millions of your  books or just give you money for free because we like you.
Plenty of old Americans  donates millions of dollars for cats and dogs shelters.
BUT YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH US IN THE LANGUAGE WE CAN UNDERSTAND.
And use the right key to open our harts to your Russian/ former Russian values, needs, or  inventions.



Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2020, 07:35:28 PM

Again your answer is not the answer in listed by me format.
If you have problems to understand English I will translate it  into Russian.

Wesley

Wesley, and who are you when you ask illiterate questions? The term energy is very slippery, engineers do not use it, only the world-eaters to account for commercial interest.  The engineer is interested in the moment in which the moment of energy is measured, and what its structure is.  When you answer, then you'll know what I mean

Quote
Energy (other-Greek. ἐνέργεια-action, activity, force, power) is a scalar physical quantity that is a single measure of various forms of motion and interaction of matter, a measure of the transition of the movement of matter from one form to another. The introduction of the concept of energy is convenient because if a physical system is closed, its energy is stored in this system for the time during which the system will be closed. This statement is called the law of conservation of energy.

From a fundamental point of view, energy is one of three (along with momentum and angular momentum) additive integrals of motion (that is, time-conserved quantities), associated, according to Noether's theorem, with the homogeneity of time, that is, the independence of the laws describing motion from time.

The word "energy" was introduced by Aristotle in the treatise "Physics", but there it denoted human activity.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 27, 2020, 08:10:13 PM
It looks like you have problem to understand English.
I didn't ask you what is energy.
An average teacher  of Russian/Ukrainian  High School for kids over 17 years old explains energy to students.
Please give me an answer in given format taking  the same or similar explanation  .
 
___________________________________________________
I will kindly ask you the same questions inRussian or Ukrainian
to make sure that you can understand  what I'm asking you for:


The format of  an answer should look like:
Answer to ad a:
the original form of energy used is: ( provide your explanation)
----------------------


answer to ad b: original energy (described in point "a") is converted to : ( provide your explanation - list all of forms of that converted  energy)
----------------------

answer to ad c: the  efficiency of the device  described by me is :( provide your explanation)
and efficiency of  the device described by me is more than 1 because : ( provide your explanation)


____________________________________________
Формат ответа должен выглядеть так:

«Ответ на вопрос» a :
Какая первоначальная форма энергии используется в вашем устройстве: (предоставьте свое объяснение)
_________________
ответ на ad b
исходная энергия (описанная в пункте 'a') преобразуется в (предоставьте свое объяснение
перечислите все формы этой преобразованной энергии)


________________
ответ на ad c
эффективность( efficiency)  описанного мной устройства составляет (предоставьте свое объяснение),
а эффективность описанного мной устройства больше 1, потому что (предоставьте свое объяснение)

you can provide your answer in Russian /Ukrainian  or English
I understand all 27 Slavic languages and I speak 3 of them fluent.


Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 28, 2020, 01:31:06 AM
Wesley  :D
You cannot, by definition, order me! In general, you should be glad that I respond to trolling.

In closed systems, efficiency cannot be more than one by definition.
Considering my self-contained hydrogenerator.
All power generated by the generator cannot exceed 5 kW (for example), but the efficiency is taken as a unit. The pump electric motor consumes 1.5 kW (5-1.5 = 3.5 kW to the consumer).
The efficiency of the installation can be estimated as 3.5 / 5 = 0.7.
But at the same time, the generation process is closed and self-propelled.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/11/autonomous-hydro-power-plant-for-home.html

The device shown in the video t this link, is a Lead acid battery powered system.  The unit contains an off the shelf DC to AC converter.  Why it uses any water, I don't know.

   floor

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 28, 2020, 09:10:55 AM
The device shown in the video t this link, is a Lead acid battery powered system.  The unit contains an off the shelf DC to AC converter.  Why it uses any water, I don't know.

   floor

It is better to clarify this in the primary source. Everything is indicated in the annotation to the patent. And most importantly, I only position devices for the home, where self-propelled sources of electricity work, to charge the intermediate battery. And only then through the inverter into consumption. Practice shows that for a house two batteries are enough for all needs.

It may well be that my solution to a simple hydraulic booster is not used by the Canadians, but there is another solution. It's just easier than I thought, impossible to come up with. And since I'm sure I'm not the first
all constructors cannot avoid this decision. I think the Canadians and Hardy need such a technique (a simple hydraulic reducer).
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 28, 2020, 12:42:41 PM
Interesting guy this Rakarskiy
He doesn't understand Russian too.
He wasn't  able to  respond to the questions in Russian.
https://overunity.com/18002/the-book-is-dedicated-to-self-propelled-mechanical-generating-devices/msg553513/#msg553513 (https://overunity.com/18002/the-book-is-dedicated-to-self-propelled-mechanical-generating-devices/msg553513/#msg553513)
___________________
and patent is not the patent but is an application
and that application is not Rakarskiy's
  but:
POTTER GREGORY (CA)                
   Application Number:  CA2017/000049           
   Publication Date:  September 13, 2018           
   Filing Date:  March 08, 2017       

____________________
other patents:

US4345160A 1982-08-17
US20070018461A1 2007-01-25
US20080238104A1  2008-10-02
US8358019B2         2013-01-22

link:
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Electrical-generation-system/WO2018161142A1.html (http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Electrical-generation-system/WO2018161142A1.html)
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Electrical-generation-system/WO2018161142A1.pdf
 (http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Electrical-generation-system/WO2018161142A1.pdf)
Canadian man  is in America too.
So all of them are Americans
-no former  Soviet 
 Rakarskiy  or any Russians were found there.

Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 28, 2020, 01:22:26 PM
Wesley, don't seek patents or seek citizenship.
Let me tell you a secret that someone who forgets his roots is doomed to ..., the Western world with its democracy is somehow in stagnation (In the United States, leftist ideas are rising and gaining strength even among millionaires who are ready to give up their money for the sake of universal They will probably have to go through this, like Russians in their time with communism (imagine communism in America, the GULAGs and the KGB). And Russia, there is just a revival ahead, and at the beginning of the spiritual, Russia has already received its portion of obscurantism for science ...
You cannot even imagine that communism is as evil for me as democracy, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. In my calendar year 7528, I do not recognize the foundations of Christian and even Romanov Russia. РОДНОВЕРИЕ and ВЕДАНИЕ know Russian.
PS. I will say so passionately that King Arthur was a Russian prince (Scythian), it has already been proven that English originated from Old Russian, there are many roots. And the Masons have their own internal language, Old Church Slavonic, and if I know Russian, Ukrainian and other Slavic languages, this is practically the same thing, only Old Russian, I can freely distinguish what the Masons are babbling about. It is a very complex and extensive language.
By the way, about how to make a hydraulic reducer in my system, I saw an idea in one Soviet copyright certificate (USSR patent).
And it was the English-speaking engineer who called this device SIMPLE HYDRAULIC GEARBOX.
I wish you well and many discoveries.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 28, 2020, 01:34:31 PM

final conclusions are below:
Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 28, 2020, 01:57:41 PM
So the most interesting thing is from Wesley: do not buy from Rakarsky's book for 38-40 US dollars (to do it yourself, the maximum will cost 2000 US dollars),
https://plati.market/itm/3039038?lang=en-US
It is advisable to buy from the Canadians (Wesley's recommendation) immediately the finished product, but at a suitable price, excluding delivery. This is the greatest value of the Western world - consumer rules.
http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/GDS15000.html
http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/GDS3000.html
http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/GDS10000.html
http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/GDS5000.html
* Canadians claim that they can perform any power.
https://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/4350/65/43506552.jpg
(https://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/4350/65/43506552.jpg)
this is the most optimal solution for those who are just a consumer!


I do not impose anything on anyone. Even this English version was made at the request of a non-Russian speaking English reader. For me, it was more of a forced waste of time. I respect those people who deal with this information. Moreover, there are many more interesting developments in my current work. Hydraulics was a loose topic.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lancaIV on November 28, 2020, 02:03:05 PM

  :o

 ;)      Hello rakarsky ,a good day (~ hallo ! SK : Hey ! Frisia : moin moin ) wishing !

At first thanks for the 166 pages e-booklet,only shortly overviewed,nothing like short Belletristik !
Serious to take 'stuff' !


Let me correct,to correct me your right and obligation,too :

Mas,Mason,Maison : building construction,today construction engineers and architects,
'Mason/Phlogistons/Rosenkraenzler : obskur/mysterious 'societies' ,with cultural-social-economical

interests,secret working ,behind the scene,but in regular : Constitution-conform,social fair version !
By their statutes,I hope so mostly also in real ! ( Chamber-in-the Chamber ! ~ for own instinct interests,and only)


What you identify with 'Russians' I mean,it can be wrong seen by me,it is meaned the Rus(Kiew ancient capital ),the Waraeger-folks,skandinavians,but also Schottland making part and IBERIA,Skythen as part from the

                           Celto(Kelten,Kelch)-Iberians ( DNA,RNA comparison,up to Kaukasia)
                                                              Indo-German stam !


History timetable ! SK-Rus to differ from later Imperium czaristical, Peter the Great and new Capital St.Petersburg and then ,interests Imperium expansion to Moskau !
The denomination slavian/-s ( german philantrophy-philology)

is a social-class defineding  view term : SKLAVE/SLAVE from " HERREN -Rasse" stand-point ,but also,with less/no pure "Rasse,deutsch" connotion : the Unfree/Free comparison !

U.D.S.S.R. : Spartakus,Spartakiade

An ideo-logical 100% Union without terretorial fontier !



                                                                             Union ,f.e. U.S.A. and India ,Brazil et cet.
                                                                             der     = german ,BR D. pronomen/pronoun possessive,w.-o. U.S.S.R.
                                                                            Sozialistischen (not communist,difference ? ) politics
 
                                                                            Sowjetischen sovjet = coun/-s-/-c-/el,Rat
                                                                            Republiken,plural from republics,like Southafrika,BR D.,U.S.A.,......


                                                                             No geo-terretorial definition !


                                                                             PROLOG : Proletarier aller Welt,vereinigt Euch ! Marx-Engels Vokativ

                                                                            But : U.D.S.S.R. internal - National ,terretorial, Republics !

                                                                            Multi-Culti !
       
                                                                            D.D.R./G.D.R.

                                                                             ..D... for Democratic,1948,1989 ? G.D.R.Constitution/U.N.-Charta
                                                                            Written theory/lived practise


                                                                         An IDEA,a TRIAL,an UTOPIA ,alI-in-one ! 'Aller Welt'  - Prototyp !

                                                                                                             IDEAL  :-X
                                                                         Quaker States ,Penn State : democratic  !? Utah : democratic ! ?   ???
       

                                                                         We wish tolerance !                         We wish orthodox book conservatism !

                                                                         We wish progression !                    We are traditionals !
                                                                         Fairness !?                                       Status quo !?


                                                                         Our Past -                        Our Present -                 Our Future
       
                                                                                10-15% free/low cost energy related,85%-90%  not !
         
                                                                                  Who master and who servants,how much each !

                                                                                  Society model Kinderdorf,www.tamera.org,Dubai,Katar ,Singapore ?







                                                                                 Genom variance humans/rain worm : 1%

     
                                                                                  Instead 50% " Black Friday" surplus-consume(50% retour !)
                                                                                  1 "White week" investment in own family history/future !?





The confusion about bureau- technical 'Terms':
Patenting

translates by same function lingual with open-ing ~ public/publishing  ( dpma : Offenlegungsschrift)


each one who enters the international WO-patent network has at first Applicant-function,
 it is a company/estatal institution/NGO-network who is applying his owner-rights in claim/s kind

This is inventor/developper independent,but can be same !
Technical Standart    Utility Model   Design     the most treating applications as 'Patents ' !

Each one can enter the for his nation responsible office,
the continental office,for example EP
the global office,WO-PTC
and study which terms are official and legal in use by professionals,
less dis-information

and 1.Hand responsibility and savetyness ! (or safetyness,language is a multiple choice concept,for profs)
Sincerely
OCWL



p.s.: there are peoples around who lives and loves,also languages and the internal conserved culture
Other lives more like ' boomboxes',equipped with only 1-song disc,dictates what they think is 'truth' !
Wesley :

Understanding 23 slavian languages,3 fluent speakin(g,without = slang !)?


Anglistik-Germanistik (LOVER DIMENSION, not HATER )

Understanding 23 anglo-saxonians languages, 3 fluent speaking ,also ? That is west Europe the bandgap !



The 'micro-chip',the INVENTOR ,it was a PATENT COURT DECISION ,a FRENCH !
The total semiconductor high tech industry global,HE leads !
Not FRANCE he - the inventor- as FRENCH citizen !

ORDNUNG ! ORDER ! No dis-order !
con-stituere et pro-stituere : Latin ! Nomen : Constitution and Prostitution

ergo,pure logics, romano-anglo-saxonic ,for right feel 4d triangulation and 4d articulation ! Internal lingual GPS !


p.s. II :

 ::) rakarsky,38-40 US$,you have not weekly "Black Friday" offer,probably ? ;) Related : Consumer-Denke ! ;D
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 28, 2020, 02:31:42 PM
lancaIV,
Kiev is far from the central capital. The real history of Russia is distorted by the substitution of Peter the Great and his German hook makers, which he brought from Prussia.
The main Rus is the entire Asian continent and Siberia. Only there is no clear Russian nation (there are Clans: Scythians. Sarmatians, Prussians, Varangians, Drevlyans, Pomors, etc.). I will say even more the war between the Germans and the Russians in 1941-45, this is a fratricidal war.
As for DNA, the Aryan-Slavic is the most stable and purest. Good Germans know that Berlin comes from the ancient word lair (Берлога-BERLOGA), and in Rodnoverie the Bear is associated with the god Veles. The spiritual capital after the exodus from Daariya (Hyperborea) was located in Central Siberia (the city of Omsk) AS-grad (the city of the gods). Perun flew to this city 48 thousand years before the birth of Christ. Christ is called the messenger of the white gods who will guide you on the path of truth ... but this is not the topic of the technical forum.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 28, 2020, 06:21:15 PM

_________________________________

Dear friends:
Cow is a cow
Black is  black.
"Former Soviet" is the same soviet but he is called e.g Russian now.
And Russian from Kiev  is Russian  no matter what.
We need to  look at the all positive not the negative aspects if there are any.

example.

Prostitute:
             has by all means some definite and defined values others wants to spend money for.
             She is legitimate businesswoman in the state of Nevada USA.
             She has her pride and her position and her values.

Any "Former Soviet"
                             can sale whatever he can as long as there is a buyer for it.                             
                            So my understanding is  that "Former Soviet"- Rakarskiy 
                            -is providing sale of book explaining to us Americans
                            that what was likely  found by him, in our American patents.
                            If that is so  than this is legitimate  business.
                            He learned English, so he can understand American technical art.
_________________________________

If there are Americans  who wants to pay for it  than 
It is the same legitimate relationship  as with prostitute in Nevada
                          -she has something   reusable for  sale (-that she didn't have to pay for )
                          -and a "former soviet" has something  reusable for sale (- that he didn't have to pay for.)
                           If an American or any other wants to  pay for it  - than, that is  his business.
____________________________________


but here is a problem:
-A  prostitute from Nevada pays American taxes for her  legitimate business .
  But it will be unacceptable.  if -Some "Former Soviet" or Russian
  wants to make money on us  the Americans and don't pay taxes.
  or behaves like some form of cheap "Russian prostitute" on our American land

And that is what I don't like.
и рыбку сиест и на х*уй сест


____________________________________________________
Conclusion:

So dear Rakarskiy you are acting as a businessman.
But legitimate businessman must answer business questions to convince us to pay you.
- you refused to provide  correct answer  even if we ask in your own Russian language too.

Legal note:the opinion expressed is a humoristic , positive in its form interaction.
There is no intention to make  it  inflammatory, nor aggressive. 
Take it as an art or, a joke  or comedy but with a grain of salt.
Any
and every opinion  of mine expressed  here, is entirely my own according to constitution of USA

Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 28, 2020, 11:20:59 PM
Wesley, who did you vote for Biden or Trump! I hope Trump wins, I believe in the Alliance of America, which is on Trump's side.

By the way, a clear example of the democratic values of your world: (http://www.energeticforum.com/filedata/fetch?id=501474&d=1606476939)

As I understand to sensible Americans, your democratic values ​​are like a bone in your throat.

And the book is here, and mind you, not according to American rules:
https://plati.market/itm/3039038?lang=en-US
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: stivep on November 29, 2020, 01:44:50 AM
Wesley, who did you vote for Biden or Trump! I hope Trump wins, I believe in the Alliance of America, which is on Trump's side.
As I understand to sensible Americans, your democratic values ​​are like a bone in your throat.
question:
How do you know that I didn't  vote?
We Americans may vote not for major candidates too.
_______________________________________

note: link posted by you to energetic forum is not accessible for direct view.
Wesley
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 29, 2020, 07:34:10 PM
@Rakarskiy

Democracy and capitalism.

One is a system of self governing within a group of people.
The other is an economic system.


           
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 29, 2020, 09:27:07 PM
@Rakarskiy

Democracy and capitalism.

One is a system of self governing within a group of people.
The other is an economic system.
           
"Democracy" is a concept that came from ancient Greece (as they are trying to whistle about it), but the conditional equality was meant only for free citizens, with the existence of the institution of slavery. Don't bother, I have a very good education in various disciplines.
By the way, in Russia, before Christianity, there was an institute for the power of the townspeople, called "People's Veche". In those days, the PRINCE was an elective position, not a genealogy. The princes became pedigrees later, after the fall of the Great Horde in the European part of Russia (Tar-taria in the Western manner), Tar-taria existed until the middle of the 19th century, and Platov's Cossacks, as part of the Russian army, was just the Tartary expeditionary corps, in alliance, against Napoleon.
"Tar-taria" from the expression "children of Torah and Tara". The names of the ancient Russian gods.
How do you like this version.

Quote
Is democracy real? Democracy as the rule of the people or, more fully, “rule of the people, elected by the people and for the people” (as defined by the American President A. Lincoln) is more a normative ideal, an attractive utopia than a characteristic of real democratic states. This concept contains an internal contradiction. Its essence lies in the fact that the power of the people in the full sense of the word means self-government of the people, which means the denial of political domination, a special apparatus of coercion and other attributes of the state, one of the forms of which is real democracy.

In other words, true democracy is incompatible with the existence of the state and democracy as its kind. In fact, democracy has never existed anywhere without a state. The withering away of the state, its replacement by public self-government seems utopian, at least in the foreseeable future, given the diversity of public life, human freedom and the inevitable divergence of interests and aspirations of various people, as well as the need for the social system to make certain decisions that are binding on everyone.

Thus, democracy as a democracy is in many ways a utopian ideal, which nevertheless has an important normative significance, since it acts as a guideline, the goal of the political development of society.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Sherbeck on November 30, 2020, 12:00:51 AM
"Democracy" is a concept that came from ancient Greece (as they are trying to whistle about it), but the conditional equality was meant only for free citizens, with the existence of the institution of slavery. Don't bother, I have a very good education in various disciplines.
By the way, in Russia, before Christianity, there was an institute for the power of the townspeople, called "People's Veche". In those days, the PRINCE was an elective position, not a genealogy. The princes became pedigrees later, after the fall of the Great Horde in the European part of Russia (Tar-taria in the Western manner), Tar-taria existed until the middle of the 19th century, and Platov's Cossacks, as part of the Russian army, was just the Tartary expeditionary corps, in alliance, against Napoleon.
"Tar-taria" from the expression "children of Torah and Tara". The names of the ancient Russian gods.
How do you like this version.


A lot of porky pies from pure blooded.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 04, 2021, 10:02:27 PM
Good time, seekers and interested ones.
I am spreading the material of my book about the secrets of an autonomous hydrogenerator.
Technology should create good, not kill. In practice, they contribute to killing. We need to change that.
Best regards, Serge Rakarskiy

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10GudcqqKmmcF402vLxZHp5L6LWdTYoek/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 05, 2021, 12:31:27 AM
@ rakarskiy

By your definition of an "autonomous hydrogenerator"....

Would a device design in which 2 wires connecting the 2 poles of a functioning lead acid
battery to 2 electrodes which are submerged in sea water, qualify as an "autonimous
hydrogenerator"?

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 05, 2021, 12:43:27 AM
@Rakarskiy

Now I see. This book of yours is a book of satire and humor.

This device you have posted in   РЁС-ВЕДРО.png  is it representative of the
kinds of designs in your joke book, yes?

  floor

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 05, 2021, 01:10:50 AM
LOOK
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 05, 2021, 07:39:07 AM
@Rakarskiy

Now I see. This book of yours is a book of satire and humor.

This device you have posted in   РЁС-ВЕДРО.png  is it representative of the
kinds of designs in your joke book, yes?

  floor

A very good "joke" to make you hysterical.  One very good person gave me the advice to just put it all on the net: "let the keepers of secrets in patents, jump on the chair"

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 05, 2021, 10:45:56 AM
Thank you Mr. Rakarskiy

Your pdf. is an interesting read, with many good formulas and some novel and good ideas as well.

I particularly enjoyed the method employed to maintain or recycle most of the head (pressure)
at the intake of the water pump.  Nice.

While I do not  however (from the pdf presented) conclude that this device can self run.  I feel certain that your book contains many examples of usefull designs, and much valuable information. I would recommend it on this account. 

It is perhaps unfortunate for us all that no one has, as yet presented us an electric generator and motor system which is, in itself over unity.

best wishes
   floor







Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 05, 2021, 01:06:20 PM
Floor,

Over Unity, only possible with linear transformation.
In the closed version, only with self-sufficient movement. If the source of energy is a generator, then its energy is always equal to 1, part of the energy goes to self-propelled, and the residual energy to the consumer is divided by 1 (generator). We always get COP less than 1. At the same time, we do not have external infusions to obtain energy.

Yours sincerely
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 05, 2021, 06:58:21 PM
@ rakarskiy

By your definition of an "autonomous hydrogenerator"....

Would a device design in which 2 wires connecting the 2 poles of a functioning lead acid
battery to 2 electrodes which are submerged in sea water, qualify as an "autonimous
hydrogenerator"?

There is perhaps some ambiguity in translation ?

In the English language, the word "autonomous" can easily be interpreted as meaning over unity.

Also I think that because water is not compressible as are gases, the same principles do not apply
to water circulating in a system, as will apply to a compression, combustion and expanding gas system (turbines, ramjets and so on).

               This is just as I understand it though.
  Thanks again
    floor




Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 09, 2021, 11:47:58 AM
My reader, who advised to lay out everything openly, https://drive.google.com/file/d/10GudcqqKmmcF402vLxZHp5L6LWdTYoek/view
and other hydraulic engineers who were impressed by this design identified the expansion diffuser in front of the outlet as the most vulnerable point in the design. Yes, indeed, in a simple calculation, everything is simple and does not contradict the laws of hydraulics. But the coefficient of pressure loss, or rather speed, depends on the cavitation processes. And the most interesting thing is that all this is well studied, there are corresponding solutions. For example, the diameter of the maximum expansion is 182 mm, the diameter of the outlet pipe of the pump is 75 mm, the length of the diffuser cone, with an expansion angle of 6 degrees, will be about 1200 mm. Hydraulics claims that a long diffuser can cause cavitation, which will increase flow resistance. And one more detail - it is technically very difficult and expensive to make such a transition with polishing the inner surface in the mirror. Again, there are solutions for the cascade variant of the diffusion transition. Firstly, we can increase the angle and decrease the length of the diffuser (cavitation at a cone angle of 10-50 g starts from the middle, which means that in the middle (or better, closer to the inlet diameter) there should be a pipe section of the transition section. If at an angle of 40 degrees, the drag coefficient ξ = 0.5, then at 6 degrees = 0.07 (but the possibility of cavitation remains.) I calculated the cascade in four links, received the indicators in each section: (1 section 20 degrees) ξ = 0.046; (2 section 20 degrees) ξ = 0.043; (3 section 25 degrees) ξ = 0.042; (4 section -15 degrees) ξ = 0.041 It turns out that even if the length of this section increases to 1500-1700 mm, the resistance to fluid flow decreases. reality, it will decrease.In the nozzle zone at the corresponding angle, a negative resistance is obtained equal to ξ = - 0.68
PS. A hydraulics worker at an oil refinery wrote to me about the cascade implementation of the diffusion transition task. They have such tricks when pumping gasoline into the channel. Later, I found a brief reference to this possibility in academic sources.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 10, 2021, 07:05:55 AM
At the pressures and temperatures which can be generated by the pump,  there will be no
compression or cavitation or expansion of the water in the pipe system.

Restricting the nozzle outlet decreases the water volume flowing through it.
This will also increase the pressure in the pipe system as compared to what the
pressure within the system would be if the nozzle opening were larger.

The pressure within the pipe can only go as high as the pump can deliver and
then only while the nozzle is completely closed.

The energy and / or power available from the water that is jettisoned  from the
nozzle, is the product of both the speed of the water exiting the nozzle and the
volume of that water.

If we increase the speed by narrowing the nozzle we decrease the volume.
If we increase the volume by enlarging the nozzle opening we decrease the
speed of the water as it exits.

Increasing the cross section of the pipe reduces turbulence and friction within the
water flow / pipe.

Restricting the pipe diameter in any way will decrease the volume of
water flowing in the pipe. 

One can increase the speed of the water flow, but one cannot in this way increase
the energy present as that flow.   

In such cases we can trade speed for volume or volume for speed, but the total
energy remains essentially the same.

Also, any restricting of the pipe diameter will only decrease the energy available
at the nozzle.  This is due to friction losses within the pipe / turbulence.

But then I am sure that you must already be aware of these things.

  floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 10, 2021, 11:58:37 AM
At the pressures and temperatures which can be generated by the pump,  there will be no
compression or cavitation or expansion of the water in the pipe system.

Restricting the nozzle outlet decreases the water volume flowing through it.
This will also increase the pressure in the pipe system as compared to what the
pressure within the system would be if the nozzle opening were larger.

The pressure within the pipe can only go as high as the pump can deliver and
then only while the nozzle is completely closed.

The energy and / or power available from the water that is jettisoned  from the
nozzle, is the product of both the speed of the water exiting the nozzle and the
volume of that water.

If we increase the speed by narrowing the nozzle we decrease the volume.
If we increase the volume by enlarging the nozzle opening we decrease the
speed of the water as it exits.

Increasing the cross section of the pipe reduces turbulence and friction within the
water flow / pipe.

Restricting the pipe diameter in any way will decrease the volume of
water flowing in the pipe. 

One can increase the speed of the water flow, but one cannot in this way increase
the energy present as that flow.   

In such cases we can trade speed for volume or volume for speed, but the total
energy remains essentially the same.

Also, any restricting of the pipe diameter will only decrease the energy available
at the nozzle.  This is due to friction losses within the pipe / turbulence.

But then I am sure that you must already be aware of these things.

  floor

These are nothing more than quotes. I don't even want to argue. I posted everything publicly. The idea was based on Bernoulli's rules. The problem of local resistances and minimization of cavitation processes is solved and methods of absolute minimization are found.
In front of the nozzle, for example, we have a speed of 0.3 m / s and a pressure of 14 atmospheres (1.4 MPa), which will correspond to a pressure of H - 144 meters (1 atmosphere = 10.33227 meters). The nozzle has a conical (conoidal) shape at the base of 182 mm and at the exit 25 mm at an angle of, for example, 40 degrees. Let's say it has a container 145 m high, 80 mm in diameter, at the base of the side nozzles, a cone of 182/25 mm with a cone angle of 40 degrees. Count and show what is wrong, I will answer by calculation!
Theses are more for trolls, the engineer loves calculation. There is no conflict with the textbook. By the way, the hydraulic technicians (practitioners) are just interested and don't draw positive or negative conclusions.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 10, 2021, 04:40:29 PM
I'm not questioning Bernoulli's theorem, or the math presented. 

I am simply stating an observation that...
no efficiency increase will be obtained from the present design, which would be
greater than, if one simply eliminates any sharp turns in the pipe while also increasing
the diameter of the pipe over the entire length (both, from the supply tank to pump and
also from the pump to the nozzle).

best wishes.
  floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 11, 2021, 09:41:27 PM
The book (new edition) contains material about a cascade diffuser. An element has been added to the calculator for calculating the cascade of channel expansion from diffusers.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 12, 2021, 01:20:50 AM
@ all readers

The diffuse cascading  or otherwise, has no applicable value to the.......

battery powered pump / nozzle / Pelton  type water wheel / generator device

                          as presented in Mr. Rakarskiy's     02_ENG_HHP_SELF.pdf .
                                         (This device runs on a battery). 

The  pump / nozzle / Pelton  type water wheel / generator,  arrangement, only,
and  greatly decrease the amount of usable energy that would otherwise
have been available directly from the battery or from the battery and then
through a DC to AC converter.

The described diffuser system is only useful in gas systems.

   floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on January 12, 2021, 10:05:32 PM
@ all readers

The diffuse cascading  or otherwise, has no applicable value to the.......

battery powered pump / nozzle / Pelton  type water wheel / generator device

                          as presented in Mr. Rakarskiy's     02_ENG_HHP_SELF.pdf .
                                         (This device runs on a battery). 

The  pump / nozzle / Pelton  type water wheel / generator,  arrangement, only,
and  greatly decrease the amount of usable energy that would otherwise
have been available directly from the battery or from the battery and then
through a DC to AC converter.

The described diffuser system is only useful in gas systems.

   floor

The language of an engineer is a calculation and a drawing. If your arguments are just words that are not supported by anything, then this is the opinion of an ordinary person, nothing more.
I think whoever is interested will figure it out. Liquid is a very interesting medium. Difficult, but very interesting. Water has a lot of potential, after acceleration it increases quadratically.

In general, a very interesting article in Russian. It is not related to my device, but it is very interesting.
http://vitanar.narod.ru/laval1/laval1.html
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on January 12, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
The formulas do not say the same things you are say.

Your arguements are Bull Sh_t.

And so you reveal what was immediately apearant, although you were given
some benefit of the doubt. You are just another hukster.

If you see Kay....
   Why...
      Oh...
       You,
           can tell her for me,  walk away.



Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Cadman on January 13, 2021, 04:18:02 PM
Rakarskiy,

You can't expect your calculations to be taken seriously if your base numbers are wrong.

The HF6B pump you cite on page 16 has a maximum working pressure of 1.47 bar. https://torujyri.ee/en/high-flow-pumps/957-centrifugal-pump-hf6b-pedrollo.html

Then you state: H - 12 meters (2.1 atm/1.4 bar). No, 12 meters of head is 1.176 bar.

Then you write: 4 meters is 1.4 atmospheres. No, it's 0.387 atm.

Then on page 18, "The height of the water in the tank (surface - points of water intake by the pump) is 0.7 meters." followed by the first line in your table of calculations "Pump outlet pipe" and give a pump pressure of 2.16 atm, which exceeds the Maximum working pressure of your pump by a large margin.

There is no point in continuing.

https://www.convertunits.com/from/meters+head/to/bar
https://www.convertunits.com/from/meter+of+head/to/atmosphere+[standard]
https://www.convertunits.com/from/bar/to/atm

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on June 15, 2021, 08:11:36 AM
​https://youtu.be/Az0v79-vG_E (http://​https://youtu.be/Az0v79-vG_E)

The author from Indonesia did not bring his installation to its logical conclusion, "stumbling" precisely on the calculations and design of the generator. His mistake is that when changing the parameters of the generator, he did not change the rotor, leaving the magnetic induction in the same place, but lengthened the wire, reduced its cross section. As a result, he received the necessary EMF (no-load voltage), but excluded the possibility of obtaining the required current parameter in the wire. It was necessary to increase the number of magnets on the pole, change the design of the rotor, or add another (or more) block of the accelerator module, using the PUSH-PUL technology, in order to increase the speed of rotation of the rotor - a massive flywheel.
EMF formula: E = B * L * V;
where: B - magnetic induction (in teslas); L is the length of the conductor (in meters); V is the rate of change of the magnetic induction on the conductor (meters per second).

Current formula: I = (E - Ubat) / R + rZ + r0;
where: E - EMF of the no-load phase (in volts): Ubat - operating voltage of the storage battery (in volts); R, rZ, r0 - resistances of the loop, load and phase wires (in Ohm)

The second formula does not change, we use it to calculate the current, i.e. battery voltage and loop resistance cannot be changed, only one EMF parameter remains. To fulfill the condition for changing the conductor length parameter (in the first formula), in the corresponding case, it could not be changed, or it could be performed with a large cross-section to preserve the phase conductor resistance parameter r0 (in Ohms), but the volume of the package did not allow this. There are only two parameters left: B - magnetic induction (in tesla) - increase, this means adding magnets to the stack, or V - the rate of change of magnetic induction on the conductor (meters per second), adding one more or other accelerating nodes of the PUSH-PUL system. 

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2021/03/live-overunity-proof-free-energy.html (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2021/03/live-overunity-proof-free-energy.html)

Perhaps in the future, the author will still achieve the correct calculation of his design and receive a self-propelled gun with recharging the ballast battery.


If you read what the authors of EARTH ENGINE (Gravity Generator) from the USA say about their design

"We 'push' a large mass by manipulating the magnetic field. When the two opposite sources of 'fuel' (magnetic fields) driving the flywheel mass are in the correct position, the engine generates a small electromagnetic charge, about 52 W. This charge allows the opposing sources of fuel. "see" each other and can create a significant force to rotate a large mass of the flywheel. This inertial force of the rotating mass is then transmitted through a separate magnetic link to a generator, which generates electrical energy. This force can also be used mechanically."
(Source: https://ie.energy/about.html (https://ie.energy/about.html) )

It is clear that the principle is the same, but a different, larger-scale design. All this can be done independently, including counting

http://rakarskiy.narod.ru​ (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru​)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on June 15, 2021, 03:32:26 PM
@ Mr.Rakarskiy

I don't understand why you have not put together a book of real and
honest information, designs and devices, which can be useful to
people who would like to live "off the grid" ?

You might enjoy that kind of project, and such a book might
sell really well ?

https://losttechnology.org/the-trompe-a-basic-overview/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelton_wheel
https://www.instructables.com/Hydraulic-Ram-Pump/
https://homesteading.com/diy-wind-turbine-generators-living-off-the-grid/
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xt4dLsqX_I4/maxresdefault.jpg
   AND SO ON
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on June 16, 2021, 10:41:30 AM
Floor, good time to you!

Unfortunately, the self-contained hydrogenerator system was my mistake. Transition diffuser - confuser for liquid, does not work to increase pressure. The calculations of the system itself and the attachments are correct, they work according to the classics. To build such a system, it is necessary to increase the static pressure in front of the nozzle. Perhaps this can be done using a device such as a hydraulic accumulator. This is not my question of hydrostatics and hydraulics. Got good science. Within the framework of the project, an electromechanical generator was tested, with a lower electromagnetic moment compared to traditional ones. This is what I am doing. In addition, a FLYWHEEL instead of a light rotor, for the overrun system is a better and simpler solution than all these "hydrodancers".

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In the generator, the electromagnetic torque acts against rotation and is therefore braking in relation to the prime mover. The torque generated by the prime mover balances the electromagnetic torque of the generator and the torque corresponding to the mechanical and magnetic losses in the generator.

Let's say we have a single-phase generator, axial type without cores, the stator coils are filled with polymer resin. Parameters voltage 27V, power 1.47 kW, rotation speed 600 rpm, diameter of the centerline of the coils 0.39 m.
We can calculate its electromagnetic moment: T = 9550*W/rpm  =  9550 * 1,47kW / 600 rpm = 23 Nm

If we check by other formulas: based on the Ampere Force and the Electromagnetic Force of the coils, we get the following parameters:
T = F1(ampere force) + F2(electromagnetic force)) * R (radius), we get   T = (F1+F2)*R = T = (16 + 103)* 0,195 = 23,2 Nm

We see that the calculations are the same. If the ampere force does not go anywhere when interacting with the magnetic flux of the pole, then the electromagnetic force of the coils can be neutralized. Let's reduce it to the value of the ampere force in the coil wire harness:

T = (16 + 16) * 0.195 = 6.24 Nm, At the same time, the total power of the generator remains the same 1.47 kW 

Purely theoretically, it remains to calculate the power of the drive motor to overcome the obtained electromagnetic moment of the generator:
W = T * rpm * 1.2 / 9550 = 6.24 * 600 * 1.2 / 9500 = 0.47 kW

In my book, I discuss several options for creating such power generating machines. The app includes a calculator in Excel for calculating yourself. The inertia of the mass makes it possible to reduce the cost of creating the torque of the drive motor for the generator to a minimum to a minimum.
The question remains, why do we need all these creators of the torque of drive motors on bubbles, jets of liquid, elevation changes, sunlight, etc.

The book (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/rotoverter_dlja_chajnika_vash_btg/3-1-0-101) is in Russian and I do not plan to translate it into other languages at the moment.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: kolbacict on June 16, 2021, 01:48:04 PM
The second rotor is repelled from the first, already rotating rotor with, say, half the speed.
is repelled by electromagnetic forces. We transfer energy for it with conductive rings and brushes.
What increment in the kinetic energy of rotation will the system (second rotor) receive for a motionless, resting observer?
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on June 16, 2021, 02:09:06 PM
Thank you Rakarskiy

Although I do not know if this observation will be of any use to you,  it is practically
all I have to offer.

In the experiments using permanent magnets which I have almost exclusively
confined my studies to during the last several years,  I find more and more evidence
that interactions at 90 degrees are essential to any successful outcome. 

Your theory and / or approach is interesting I intend to spend a little more time to think
about it and hope it will be a fruitful direction of exploration for you.

  floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on June 16, 2021, 02:38:06 PM
floor, Thank you! This is the classic induction emf for a wire relative to the magnetic induction vector. The maximum value is only when the magnetic induction vector and the wire are at an angle of 90 degrees to each other. But there are still many things that are still inaccessible, these are the mechanics of controlling a vortex electric field. So far, no one has managed to visualize this process in dynamics.

The guy was almost there, but did the wrong thing by optimizing his generator.
https://youtu.be/Az0v79-vG_E  (failed on his channel, he has a lot of videos)

The details of my analysis are here:
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2021/03/live-overunity-proof-free-energy.html


Its design matches the principle of this setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgfZy6KllcE&t=27s 
"Earth engine (https://rakarskiy.livejournal.com/12789.html)" from the Energy Inductance Company from the USA still the same principle

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on June 16, 2021, 03:18:10 PM
The second rotor is repelled from the first, already rotating rotor with, say, half the speed.
is repelled by electromagnetic forces. We transfer energy for it with conductive rings and brushes.
What increment in the kinetic energy of rotation will the system (second rotor) receive for a motionless, resting observer?

https://youtu.be/QGPwy6eF_UU   - I think this video will be interesting to you.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 08, 2021, 02:47:36 PM
It doesn't happen like that?! - the reader who is convinced that a generator with a minimum electromagnetic moment (the braking moment of the generator) is impossible will think. In the material, the justification of the possibility is just given, by the method of solving the problem in physics. It took more conditions and data to solve it. But it is solved on the basis of the fundamentals of electrical engineering.


https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/motor_generator_cop_gt_1/3-1-0-137?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_h l=ru&_x_tr_pto=nui (https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/motor_generator_cop_gt_1/3-1-0-137?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_h l=ru&_x_tr_pto=nui)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 09, 2021, 11:13:30 AM
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/13619-motor-generators?p=508069#post508069


It is fashionable to read the updated version of the article through Google translator at the link. (https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/motor_generator_cop_gt_1/3-1-0-137?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=nui)

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It is not difficult to calculate the conversion factor COP = P (generator) / P (engine) = 1 / 0.014 = 71.4 (7140%).
The result looks fantastic, this generator is very real. Using a 100 W drive motor, this would be 0.9 kW of free energy when the electromechanical converter is self-propelled. The main thing that we found out is that turning on is possible, in our case, according to the condition of the problem, we can turn on the engine in the generator circuit with a load, provided that the load power is reduced, for the power consumption of the engine and the frequency of the network and the engine is 563 Hz.




Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 12, 2021, 12:25:18 AM
Either the generator or the motor, must be over unity in and
of its self, before this drawing could self run.

Best wishes
 floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 12, 2021, 06:37:46 AM
Either the generator or the motor, must be over unity in and
of its self, before this drawing could self run.

Best wishes
 floor

It's best to decide for yourself. Those who decided to double-check are in slight bewilderment. One even exclaimed: where did the force of Lorentz go!

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Condition and solution to the problem.
It remains to check whether the condition is fulfilled when the electromagnetic moment of the generator (mechanical resistance to rotation) is identical to the output electric power. Let's take a drawing of the simplest electrical circuit with a generator. A generator in the same circuit with incandescent lamps, for example, incandescent lamps with a total power of 1000 W (1 kW), with a mains voltage of 220 volts. It is necessary to calculate the parameters of the generator, and find out the possibility of connecting the engine to rotate the generator of the same circuit.
First, we need the generator parameters. To do this, we will calculate according to the classical scheme of a frame rotating in a magnetic field between two poles.

Solution -1:

1.1 Definition of the initial data of the generator:
P electric power = 1 kW (1000 W);
Mains voltage - U = 220 V;
Determine the load resistance by the formula
Rz = U2 / P = 2202/1000 = 48.4 ohms.
Determine the load current: Iz = P / U = 1000/220 = 4.55 A.
1.2 We choose a wire by cross-section, for current throughput:
Copper wire diameter in varnish = 1 mm, S = 0.79 mm2,
at Аі = 8 A / sq. mm, the current carrying capacity will be:  J = Ai / S (mm²) = 8 / 0.79 = 6.28 A.
Let's define the following missing parameters:
Angular speed of rotation of the shaft / frame: n = 650 rpm;
The diameter of the armature d = 0.35 m (in our case, the distance between the active conductors of the frame relative to the center of rotation);
Magnetic induction: B = 0.4 T, maximum sin (a) = 1.

We need to calculate the EMF [E] and the length of the active wire [l].

1.3 EMF [E] is calculated from the current formula, for a complete circuit: Ii = E - U / R + Rz, (where: R is the resistance of the active wire of the generator frame). To calculate the EMF, the formula will take the form: E = (U + I) * (R + Rz) = 220 + 4.55 * 48.4 + Rz (?), To solve this equation, we do not know the resistance of the active wire, the frame.
1.4 There is another option, to calculate the EMF [E] according to the formula: E = U * k, where: k is the ratio of the network voltage to the EMF of the phase. It cannot be less than 2. When k = 2, it is an ideal state when the phase resistance is zero. Let's check: E = U + (I * R + Rz) = 220 + 4.55 * 48.4 = 440 V; E = U * k = 220 * 2 = 440 V.
1.5 Now we need to determine the length of the wire and its resistance. We find it from the formula EMF [E] for a linear wire: E = B * l * v. From the formula, we derive the calculation for the active wire: l = E / v / B.
1.6 For further calculation, we need the parameter of the rate of change of the magnetic flux - v (m / s), we find it by the formula: v = πnD / 60 = 3.14 * 650 * 0.35 / 60 = 11.9 m / s.
1.7 Find the length of the wire l = E / v / B = 440 / 11.9 / 0.4 = 92.44 meters.
1.8 Determine the resistance of the active phase wire: R = Ri * l [where Ri = ρ * (1 / mm²) = 0.017 * (1 / 0.79) = 0.0276 Ohm] = 92.44 m * 0.0276 Ohm = 2.55 ohm.
1.9 Next, we can calculate the current in the loop:
Mains current Ii (at E = 440 V): Ii = E - U / Rz + R = 440 - 220 / 48.4 + 2.55 = 4.32 A.
1.10 Calculate the difference between the load current and the current of the circuit: 4, 55 - 4.32 = 0.23A. We can adjust our coefficient:
k = 2 + (1- Ii / Iz) = 2 + (1 - 4.32 / 4.55) = 2.05054945055.
1.11 We correct our EMF of the generator frame: E = U * k = 220 * 2.05054945055 = 451 V.
1.12 Correct the length of the active wire of the generator frame: l = E / v / B = 451 / 11.9 / 0.4 = 94.75 meters.
1.13 We check the EMF value according to the original formula: E = B * l * v = 0.4 * 94.75 * 11.9 = 451 V.
1.14 We check the value of the current in the circuit: I = E - U / R + Rz = 451 - 220 / 48.4 + 2.55 = 4.55 A.

As a result: the load power of 1000 W with a resistance of 48.4 Ohm, 220 V of the mains voltage, provides the phase of the generator, the length of the active wire of which is 94.75 meters, the resistance of the active wire is 2.55 Ohm, the current in the loop is 4.55 A.

Solution - 2:
Determination of the possibility of connecting the engine to a circuit with a generator and load:
2.1 We can use the classical formula to calculate the electromagnetic moment of the generator (assuming that Re = Pk): T motor = Re * 9.55 / n = 1000 * 9.55 / 650 = 14.69 N * m.
2.2 It remains to clarify the coefficient of the idle torque of the generator (what resistance to rotation has the mechanical part of the generator when rotating at a given speed without connecting the frame to the circuit with a load), traditionally they are 20% 100% of the electromagnetic torque under load, as a result, the engine torque: T = 100% + 20% = 120% of the electromagnetic moment of the generator created by the current induction: k = 1.2. The electromagnetic torque of the drive motor will be = 1.2 * M = 17.63 N * m. Determine the power of the drive motor Pm = 17.63 * 650/9550 = 1.20 kW.
2.3. Determine the conversion efficiency ratio: COP = Pgenator / Rmotor = 1 / 1.2 = 0.83.

As you can see, everything coincides with the traditional statements. Conversion coefficient: COP = 0.83 <1. We cannot include to the load, additionally, a drive motor for rotating the generator, proceeding from the condition of equilibrium of the kinetic and electrical powers.

But that's not all, let's go ahead and calculate the electromagnetic moment of the generator through the ampere force and the radius vector

Solution - 3.
Determination of the electromagnetic moment of the generator through the electromagnetic force and the radius vector:
To calculate the electromagnetic moment, through the Ampere force, we apply the basic formula: M = Fa * (d / 2): where Fa is the Ampere force, in Newtons.
Ampere force is calculated by the Formula: Fа = B * In * La, where: magnetic induction B = μ₀ * (In / 2π * r), in T; current strength in ampere turns: In = n * I, in amperes; and La is the sum of the lengths of the two active sides of the frame, divided by the number of turns: La = 2 * l / n, in meters.
Let's imagine that our frame is elongated to the full length 1/2 of the generator phase length:
la = 94.75 meters / 2 = 47.36 meters, we get the length of one edge of the frame.
In fact, we received not the real length of the generator armature, for an electromechanical device. Let's say that we have it with a minimum or very large - Idling torque.
Let's calculate the electromagnetic moment of one frame of an unreal generator, with a gap between the magnetic pole and the wire = 1 mm (0.001 m):
M = ((μ₀ * I * n / 2π * r) * (I * n) * (La * n) * (d / 2) = (0.00000126 * (4.55 * 1/2 * 3.14 * 0.001)) * (4.55 * 1) * (2 * 47.36 * 1) * (0.5 * 0.35) = 0.136 N * m
We got a completely unrealistic small dimensionality of the electromagnetic moment of 0.136 N * m, against EMM = 14.69 N * m, subject to the equilibrium of powers!
That's the result! I double-checked for an error that I did not find. I made a few more calculations: putting the length of the wire in turns and reducing the length of the frame (armature / rotor). Results in the table: (see article)

The first two columns are actually what we counted. With a generator no-load ratio of 1.25, the power of the drive motor will be: 0.012 kW (12 W) !!! To reach parity with the traditional formula (conditions that, REM = Pk) is achieved with an idle speed = 130. Obviously, an anchor with two support points, of such length, cannot be made. A rotor with intermediate supports is possible. How much the moment of force will be, for the rotation of this rotor at idle, we will not determine.
We have two more calculations. The wire was laid in turns (we will take an inactive wire for zero resistance, and we will not take it into account). To achieve parity with the condition: REM = Pk, we got 107 turns. The length of the edge of the frame was reduced from 47 meters to 0.445 meters (which is quite acceptable for the size of the generator). It turns out that the current and magnetic induction have grown 107 times: Current - [486.85 / 4.55 = 107 times]; The magnetic induction is [0.1941 / 0.0018 = 107 times], but the length of the wire or bundle has decreased 107 times: The length of the frame edges is [94.8 / 0.89 = 107 times].
Logically, the length can be attributed to the section, the overall result should not change, but it changes. If we compare it with a nozzle through which the jet flows, the smaller the cross section, the higher the speed and the actual pressure. If you add more turns and shorten the length, this pressure will increase even more. For a motor, this is not bad, but for a generator, it is the cost of current induction from the side of the drive motor. It is necessary to look for a solution for the optimal size of the generator with a minimum number of turns, for a given wire length.

The solution is in the design of the generator!
What to do? There is always a solution, especially since physics indicates where to look for this solution.
What you need to do: recalculate the result for 104 meters of active wire. We will have 104/2 = 52 pairs of poles The length of the rotor will be 0.5 m, the diameter is 0.35 m. Lay the entire length of the wire in a wave on these poles. Does it matter if the wire has a straight line or a zigzag, the main thing is that the phase is laid in one wire. We will have a frequency parameter since it will already be an alternator.
Let's calculate the frequency by the formula: f = p * n / 60, where: p is the number of pole pairs; n - angular speed, in rpm, f = 52 * 650/60 = 563 Hz.
In this variant of laying, one more parameter will be added, this is the electromagnetic traction force arising from the focused magnetic flux of the coil, which is formed between the wires with a multidirectional current vector, which will not exceed 0.157 N, when laid in one wire. Wave wire laying, patent reference. In our case, this is laying on a frame that is neutral to magnetic flux, for example, plastic, a 3D printer. Calculation by formulas:  http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/8775586.jpg (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/8775586.jpg)
 
The electromagnetic moment with the sum of the Ampere forces and the electromagnetic traction force will preliminarily have a value: M = (0.78 + 0.157 = 0.937) * (0.35 / 2) = 0.163 N * m, which will be, in the need for the drive power of the generator motor , taking into account the coefficient 1.2 at idle, P = 1.2 M * n / 9500 = 0.014 kW (14 W).
It is not difficult to calculate the conversion factor:
COP = Rgenator / Rmotor = 1 / 0.014 = 71.4 (7140%).

The figure looks fantastic, this generator is quite real. If a 100 W drive motor comes out, it will be 0.9 kW of free energy during the self-propelled operation of the electromechanical converter. The main thing we found out is that switching on is possible, in our case, according to the condition of the problem, we can turn on the motor in the generator circuit with a load, subject to a decrease in the load power, for the power consumption of the motor and the frequency of the network and the motor of 563 Hz.

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http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/motor_generator_cop_gt_1/3-1-0-137

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 17, 2021, 03:01:15 PM
Proof of non-observance of the energy conservation law in the generator. Physics based on fundamental laws.

http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: kolbacict on November 17, 2021, 04:11:51 PM
We did it. Nothing works.  :(
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 17, 2021, 08:10:36 PM
We did it. Nothing works.  :(

Why did you decide that this structure should work? Have you seen enough Indian cinema? In India, only one person had an engineer Tewari installation with an efficiency of 275%, but this is a special generator RLG.

http://www.rexresearch.com/tewari/tewari.htm

https://rakarskiy.livejournal.com/15859.html
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 18, 2021, 02:53:00 PM
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/13619-motor-generators?p=508069#post508069


It is fashionable to read the updated version of the article through Google translator at the link. (https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/motor_generator_cop_gt_1/3-1-0-137?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=nui)

Hello Mr. Rakarskiy,

I'm curious, how many poles, or pole pairs, must a synchronous generator have to deliver 563 Hz at 650 RPM?
thanks,
bi
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 18, 2021, 06:55:11 PM
Hello Mr. Rakarskiy,

I'm curious, how many poles, or pole pairs, must a synchronous generator have to deliver 563 Hz at 650 RPM?
thanks,
bi

You have one drawback, you don't read the material you are referring to.  Everything is clearly told there, calculated for the final conclusion.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 18, 2021, 11:31:32 PM
Quote from: rakarskiy link=topic=180 :-X02.msg561556#msg561556 date=1637258111
You have one drawback, you don't read the material you are referring to.  Everything is clearly told there, calculated for the final conclusion.

Yep, I read that. I asked the question to point out how ridiculous you are. How realistic is a 104 pole 1 kw alternator? Can you give me an example where one might be purchased?
You're out in left field with all those numbers that you stick in any equations which you can find. It makes no sense.
bi
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 19, 2021, 07:44:58 AM
Yep, I read that. I asked the question to point out how ridiculous you are. How realistic is a 104 pole 1 kw alternator? Can you give me an example where one might be purchased?
You're out in left field with all those numbers that you stick in any equations which you can find. It makes no sense.
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Well, what do you think! But the electromagnetic moment is formed by induction and for the simplest generator in one turn (frame), no squares can be applied, everything is based on basic formulas.
To find a solution, it is necessary to start from the basic calculation. Yes, the generator machine will come out expensive, since to get the result, the cost of magnets will increase significantly (if something decreases, something arrives: E = B * L*V).  I was interested in another question in this task - the fulfillment of the condition of the Law of Conservation of Energy in the simplest generator, the fulfillment of the constant that the mechanical power applied to the rotation of the generator will be conditionally equal to electric, ideally.  It turned out that this is a myth, and even an absolute one. The braking torque of the generator depends on the conditions of its design. The constant of the law of conservation of energy in the generator does not work, and depends not on the physics of the process, but on the engineering solution. Just making a superunit generator is expensive, so the condition price /power =electromagnetic moment varies in the ratio of the equality of electrical power to mechanical power. This is not a constant , it is a commercial attraction for production.
You can only do it yourself, other models have been developed and calculated, not such a cosmic conversion factor, but sufficient to make yourself non-volatile. The cost of manufacturing such a machine is still very high.

Link to the article with the solution:  http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: kolbacict on November 19, 2021, 08:53:05 AM
Have you seen enough Indian cinema?
Exactly. And not only Indian ones. :)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 19, 2021, 12:27:29 PM
Well, what do you think! But the electromagnetic moment is formed by induction and for the simplest generator in one turn (frame), no squares can be applied, everything is based on basic formulas.
To find a solution, it is necessary to start from the basic calculation. Yes, the generator machine will come out expensive, since to get the result, the cost of magnets will increase significantly (if something decreases, something arrives: E = B * L*V).  I was interested in another question in this task - the fulfillment of the condition of the Law of Conservation of Energy in the simplest generator, the fulfillment of the constant that the mechanical power applied to the rotation of the generator will be conditionally equal to electric, ideally.  It turned out that this is a myth, and even an absolute one. The braking torque of the generator depends on the conditions of its design. The constant of the law of conservation of energy in the generator does not work, and depends not on the physics of the process, but on the engineering solution. Just making a superunit generator is expensive, so the condition price /power =electromagnetic moment varies in the ratio of the equality of electrical power to mechanical power. This is not a constant , it is a commercial attraction for production.
You can only do it yourself, other models have been developed and calculated, not such a cosmic conversion factor, but sufficient to make yourself non-volatile. The cost of manufacturing such a machine is still very high.

Link to the article with the solution:  http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf)

Sticking random ​values into misapplied equations and using fuzzy math proves nothing except that you lack fundamental comprehension of the science. From previous encounter between us on E.F., Ampere's force formula yields a force between the two conductors, not a moment.
Also I see little if any value in your approach to disprove conservation of energy.
I suggest you visit nearby university and seek review of book by those skilled in the field.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 19, 2021, 12:53:30 PM
Sticking random ​values into misapplied equations and using fuzzy math proves nothing except that you lack fundamental comprehension of the science. From previous encounter between us on E.F., Ampere's force formula yields a force between the two conductors, not a moment.
Also I see little if any value in your approach to disprove conservation of energy.
I suggest you visit nearby university and seek review of book by those skilled in the field.
bi

Dear opponent! If you found an error. inaccuracy I will listen to you with pleasure. I solved the problem for the simplest generator, according to the rules of physics, the section of electromechanics.  If you can't decide and point out the inaccuracy with your opponent's decision, then the statement is nothing more than bravado, nothing more. If so, then go to the educational institution yourself.

The simplest generator (https://x-faq.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3003.0;attach=88786;image)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 19, 2021, 01:46:22 PM
Dear opponent! If you found an error. inaccuracy I will listen to you with pleasure. I solved the problem for the simplest generator, according to the rules of physics, the section of electromechanics.  If you can't decide and point out the inaccuracy with your opponent's decision, then the statement is nothing more than bravado, nothing more. If so, then go to the educational institution yourself.

The simplest generator (https://x-faq.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3003.0;attach=88786;image)

Twice, now a third. Very specific error on your part. Incorrect to apply Ampere's force law to solve for moment in a dynamo. This does not imply it is the only error.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 19, 2021, 02:15:15 PM
Twice, now a third. Very specific error on your part. Incorrect to apply Ampere's force law to solve for moment in a dynamo. This does not imply it is the only error.
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Magnetic induction of an infinite conductor with a current, there is such a formula. If we apply magnetic induction from an external magnetic field, then, according to the Ampere force formula, the motor will be greater than one in accordance with the principle of reversibility. I've been testing various combinations. So think again about what you're saying.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 19, 2021, 04:38:41 PM
Magnetic induction of an infinite conductor with a current, there is such a formula. If we apply magnetic induction from an external magnetic field, then, according to the Ampere force formula, the motor will be greater than one in accordance with the principle of reversibility. I've been testing various combinations. So think again about what you're saying.

The two forces (F) are different in your graphic. One F is Laplace force, extension of Lorentz with current carrying conductor in uniform magnetic field. Other F is Ampere force, different extension of Lorentz where current in infinite wire causes force against equal current in parallel wire due to the magnetic field associated with the current in the infinite wire. Ampere's force is directed perpendicular to and between the two wires, equal and opposite direction, therefore unable to produce a moment. Laplace force is orthogonal and able to act against lever as a moment.
In the examples, the magnetic flux used in Laplace force equation is the product of the permanent magnets. In an Ampere's force calculation, the magnetic field(s) arise from the current itself.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 19, 2021, 04:57:21 PM
The two forces (F) are different in your graphic. One F is Laplace force, extension of Lorentz with current carrying conductor in uniform magnetic field. Other F is Ampere force, different extension of Lorentz where current in infinite wire causes force against equal current in parallel wire due to the magnetic field associated with the current in the infinite wire. Ampere's force is directed perpendicular to and between the two wires, equal and opposite direction, therefore unable to produce a moment. Laplace force is orthogonal and able to act against lever as a moment.
In the examples, the magnetic flux used in Laplace force equation is the product of the permanent magnets. In an Ampere's force calculation, the magnetic field(s) arise from the current itself.
bi

Really?

I turned over a bunch of material, and never found the calculation of the electromagnetic moment of the simplest generator.  All that is offered is to count with an iron core.   And there it makes sense to take into account the cross-section of the poles. In the simplest generator, the conductor moves in a magnetic static field.

The second is the power of Laplace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace_transform)? I wonder how an integral indirect calculation can negate a rectilinear arithmetic one?

The third in the problem is not considered at all, sliding force changes, but only the frontal maximum for simplicity. 

Fourth, everything must always be compared with the reversibility of the motor-generator machines.

Fifth, if you want to convince me of something, I ask for your justification and calculations in examples.

Otherwise, a windbag.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 19, 2021, 07:01:27 PM
Really?

I turned over a bunch of material, and never found the calculation of the electromagnetic moment of the simplest generator.  All that is offered is to count with an iron core.   And there it makes sense to take into account the cross-section of the poles. In the simplest generator, the conductor moves in a magnetic static field.

The second is the power of Laplace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace_transform)? I wonder how an integral indirect calculation can negate a rectilinear arithmetic one?

The third in the problem is not considered at all, sliding force changes, but only the frontal maximum for simplicity. 

Fourth, everything must always be compared with the reversibility of the motor-generator machines.

Fifth, if you want to convince me of something, I ask for your justification and calculations in examples.

Otherwise, a windbag.

I don't need to convince you of anything. I am simply alerting you and the readers that I find your derivation, or "book", based on a misapplication of Ampere's force law and confusing, to say the least. I feel it shows a lack of comprehension of fundamentals on your part. I've stated my view and you and the readers can research and come to their own conclusions. I feel no need to argue.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 19, 2021, 08:46:11 PM
I don't need to convince you of anything. I am simply alerting you and the readers that I find your derivation, or "book", based on a misapplication of Ampere's force law and confusing, to say the least. I feel it shows a lack of comprehension of fundamentals on your part. I've stated my view and you and the readers can research and come to their own conclusions. I feel no need to argue.
bi

Dear, you claim the incorrect application of Ampere's Law, without giving a single argument, in the form of a calculation that, in your opinion, is correct. Therefore, your warnings are nothing more than bravado. I invite everyone to point out the mistakes, giving proof according to the opinion of the one proving the correct calculation, but all by the bushes. Therefore, you are not convincing.

My solution of the problem by the link: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf)

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 20, 2021, 05:34:01 AM
Dear, you claim the incorrect application of Ampere's Law, without giving a single argument, in the form of a calculation that, in your opinion, is correct. Therefore, your warnings are nothing more than bravado. I invite everyone to point out the mistakes, giving proof according to the opinion of the one proving the correct calculation, but all by the bushes. Therefore, you are not convincing.

My solution of the problem by the link: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf)

It was Ampere's "Force Law" which I said was improperly used, not to be confused with that which is generally termed as Ampere's Law.  I did supply reference explaining that and a brief statement.
I read your paper again and tell you it is terrible. You design a generator with an output of 1.0 kw and input of 14 watts. It has 104 poles and a rotor diameter of 350mm by 500mm long. 7140% efficiency, thereby claiming to prove conservation of energy wrong. You even say "Such a generator is possible".
I don't think so.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 20, 2021, 07:50:13 AM
It was Ampere's "Force Law" which I said was improperly used, not to be confused with that which is generally termed as Ampere's Law.  I did supply reference explaining that and a brief statement.
I read your paper again and tell you it is terrible. You design a generator with an output of 1.0 kw and input of 14 watts. It has 104 poles and a rotor diameter of 350mm by 500mm long. 7140% efficiency, thereby claiming to prove conservation of energy wrong. You even say "Such a generator is possible".
I don't think so.
bi

Can't you calculate the electromagnetic moment yourself, the simplest generator?  For load: P =1 kW/220V ? Provided that the angular velocity is -650 rpm, and the distance between the active faces of the frame or the diameter relative to the axis of rotation d is 0.35 meters! The condition must be one frame or one coil turn!

I have no words, consider the execution of such a calculation a test of aptitude.  I hope your employer reads your nonsense (your posts are above).
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 20, 2021, 09:51:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHIhgxav9LY

 :) ;)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 20, 2021, 01:00:31 PM
Can't you calculate the electromagnetic moment yourself, the simplest generator?  For load: P =1 kW/220V ? Provided that the angular velocity is -650 rpm, and the distance between the active faces of the frame or the diameter relative to the axis of rotation d is 0.35 meters! The condition must be one frame or one coil turn!

I have no words, consider the execution of such a calculation a test of aptitude.  I hope your employer reads your nonsense (your posts are above).

"I hope your employer reads your nonsense" says the fellow who has made the calculation to be 0.163Nm. That is about 23 oz.in. Similar to the rated torque of the motor shown here: https://www.ricmotor.com/details/rs-997ph
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 20, 2021, 02:28:04 PM
"I hope your employer reads your nonsense" says the fellow who has made the calculation to be 0.163Nm. That is about 23 oz.in. Similar to the rated torque of the motor shown here: https://www.ricmotor.com/details/rs-997ph
bi

What's bothering you? make your calculation, the conditions are higher.  ;)

My calculation is here: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf)

Slide by link: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/8389356.jpg
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 20, 2021, 03:40:50 PM
What's bothering you? make your calculation, the conditions are higher.  ;)

My calculation is here: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_COP_1_motot_gen.pdf)

Slide by link: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/8389356.jpg

Obviously we are on different planets. Your most simple design of dynamo capable of 0.163Nm has 104 poles and a rotor diameter of 350mm by 500mm long. For the same capability I can buy this off the shelf.
https://www.ricmotor.com/details/rs-997ph
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 20, 2021, 08:06:08 PM
bistander, if you can squeeze 1 kW out of this engine, then why all this cheese board. I thought you were an expert  ;)
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 20, 2021, 09:29:41 PM
bistander, if you can squeeze 1 kW out of this engine, then why all this cheese board. I thought you were an expert  ;)

The electromagnetic torque capability is the determining factor  of the dynamo. If as your design exercise indicates, 0.163 Nm is the electromagnetic torque of your machine, it indicates poor material utilization, which you even mentioned..
I don't know cheese board, but have knowledge and experience with electric machinery and energy conversion. I only spoke up here because I see you selling BS. I'm not buying it and don't think others should either. Similar to my run-in with Turion. You make an extraordinary claim (1kw out / 14w in), prove it.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: kolbacict on November 21, 2021, 07:51:21 AM
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I only spoke up here because I see you selling BS.
And how, in this case, can perpetum mobile be done?
Let Mr. Rakarsky be wrong with his idea, fig with him.
We did, we didn't succeed either. Do you know how to do it?
I need this. I really, really need ...
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 21, 2021, 04:43:00 PM
The electromagnetic torque capability is the determining factor  of the dynamo. If as your design exercise indicates, 0.163 Nm is the electromagnetic torque of your machine, it indicates poor material utilization, which you even mentioned..
I don't know cheese board, but have knowledge and experience with electric machinery and energy conversion. I only spoke up here because I see you selling BS. I'm not buying it and don't think others should either. Similar to my run-in with Turion. You make an extraordinary claim (1kw out / 14w in), prove it.
bi

Smart ass (joke), my Russian friends are still more experts. I don't argue with talkers. There are also those among Russians who claim that I am incorrectly applying the magnetic induction index to the ampere force modulus.  I say that the use of this module when calculating the electromagnetic moment of the generator is unacceptable. The reason is that the electromagnetic moment is exorbitant. But if the machine is reversible into an electric motor, the motor goes beyond the Singularity, and this cannot be.

We conducted an experiment and I was able to correct the formula of the magnetic induction of the wire  B=(μ₀*I*w)/(2πr). The gap should be denoted as its absence r = 0.0001 m.

In any case, there are a lot of things that are not freely available in the literature. My method is still relevant, but it has become more expensive to implement.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 21, 2021, 04:59:43 PM
Has anyone been able to construct a self-propelled mechanical device?
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 21, 2021, 05:24:51 PM
Mr. Rakarskiy,
My suggestion. Obtain motor shown in my post. Test it. Analyze it. Measure components. Apply your formula using its parts. Compare your calculations to published performance. Then realize your mistake.
Yes, I have done this, many times over career. Published formulae always correlate when properly applied.
bi
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 21, 2021, 09:31:25 PM
As always, the more visual materials, the better. What kind of module, magnetic induction, to use in the Ampere force calculation formula!

And so, here is this video, also the simplest generator
https://youtu.be/ox3DukiDiuQ

He will take the initial data:

The magnetic induction from the pole of the magnet, in the area of the wire, will be taken as 0.4 Tesla.

The current in the circuit is calculated from the name "50W Generator"
In America, the mains voltage is 120 V, a total of 50/120 = 0.42 A; the number of turns is 2000; the angular rotation speed is 500 rpm; the length of the magnet pole face is 60 mm, as a result, the length of the active coil probe is 60 mm * 2 = 120 mm; the diameter of the rotor is 40 mm.
The results of calculations in two columns of the table (attachment),
the first - with the calculation of magnetic induction depending on the voltage in the wire,
the second - with magnetic induction from the magnet Bm = 0.4 Tesla

I hope it's clear that if we apply the classics, then all generators will be a superblock of a similar configuration!  ;)

P.S. let there be small inaccuracies in diameter, current or magnetic induction from a magnet, but the gap between the result is just reality. A wire with a current forms its magnetic intensity vector and enters into magnetic confrontation with the intensity of the external magnetic field. This principle is observed in engines and generators. And the ability to make calculations correctly is professionalism and technology.  Therefore, I am not asserting, but investigating. In any case, the constant in electric machines of equality of electrical and mechanical power is not fulfilled. The law of conservation of energy in this node cannot be applied. Engineering creativity decides everything.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 22, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
Mr. Rakarskiy,
My suggestion. Obtain motor shown in my post. Test it. Analyze it. Measure components. Apply your formula using its parts. Compare your calculations to published performance. Then realize your mistake.
Yes, I have done this, many times over career. Published formulae always correlate when properly applied.
bi

So how's your career going? Maybe you will still make your calculation, otherwise the aptitude test, you have not passed
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 22, 2021, 10:32:57 AM
You have not done as I suggested. Compare your calculations to tested performance. Also let us see your [1 kw out / 14 w in] dynamo in action. Prove these calculations and claims you make are true. My career is just fine. I prove my work to my boss. I am not selling to public using false claims and garbage calculations. You need to prove what you say or public will see that you cannot. I need to prove nothing. Millions of electric motors and generators operate according to principles of conventional established science and physics which I endorse.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 22, 2021, 11:05:10 AM
You have not done as I suggested. Compare your calculations to tested performance. Also let us see your [1 kw out / 14 w in] dynamo in action. Prove these calculations and claims you make are true. My career is just fine. I prove my work to my boss. I am not selling to public using false claims and garbage calculations. You need to prove what you say or public will see that you cannot. I need to prove nothing. Millions of electric motors and generators operate according to principles of conventional established science and physics which I endorse.
bi

And why did you decide that I would do as the adherents of the system suggest to me?  At the same time, in real machines that I design, the efficiency coefficient is no more than 2-3, but this is enough for the adherents of the system to be on the street.
 
There are still interesting topics that are in the public domain, and you silence them, for example, the motor generator of Carl Latmmer (Australia) in 1983 and 1986.

https://overunity.com/18075/self-poweredgenerators-motors-part-34/msg527893/topicseen/#new
https://overunity.com/18068/self-powered-generators-motors-part-33/msg527809/topicseen/#new

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The output power of this generator is 240 VAC at approximately 30 A or 7.2 kW at 2000 rpm. The required power on the shaft (12) is approximately 600 watts.

But Google has only one patent and no information  :)
https://patents.google.com/patent/AU5389086A/en?oq=AU53890%2f86

I think it won't be difficult for you, as a professional, to calculate the effectiveness of the conversion?  ;) :)

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 22, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
I made a suggestion that would help you learn or realize that your calculation methods do not work, by using an existing dynamo economically available of about the same EM torque as the one you designed. You choose to play with a YouTube toy. Fine. Build it, test it and verify your calculations. That'd be interesting.
I silence no person. I simply challenge BS when I see it being sold using false claims and lies. Prove me wrong, please.
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Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 22, 2021, 12:27:32 PM
I made a suggestion that would help you learn or realize that your calculation methods do not work, by using an existing dynamo economically available of about the same EM torque as the one you designed. You choose to play with a YouTube toy. Fine. Build it, test it and verify your calculations. That'd be interesting.
I silence no person. I simply challenge BS when I see it being sold using false claims and lies. Prove me wrong, please.
bi

Your skin will peel off soon!

Can't you refute my calculations with an elementary calculation?  What if I'm wrong? You have such an opportunity to prove it to me and everyone else
You are not the only one who doubts, the seeker even conducted an experiment for me to prove that I am wrong.
https://youtu.be/MWLZ07jm8aQ as a result, without realizing it, he only gave me the opportunity to correct my calculations. Now my calculation is very close to ideal. The guy intended to conduct a second experiment to prove the correctness of the Ampere module from an external magnetic flux, but he is silent, probably his puzzles did not come together.
 
By the way, I will correct the calculations in the article, Everything remains in the same spirit, but the generator is planned to be made even better, although not with such a bright efficiency, only - 2

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 22, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
@ Mr. Rakarskiy

First, I wish you success in your free energy explorations.

Second, it is up to you (the presenter) to prove or show experimentally
any O.U. results you might claim. 

Third, It is not up to others (i.e. bistander) to disprove O.U. claims.  It is reasonable
that the burden of proof rest upon any claimant of what is extra ordinary, to demonstrate
and CLEARLY AND PLAINLY describe their method or device,

and

to show measurements along with the methods of how those measurements were taken.

 best wishes
          floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 22, 2021, 09:03:38 PM
@ Mr. Rakarskiy

First, I wish you success in your free energy explorations.

Second, it is up to you (the presenter) to prove or show experimentally
any O.U. results you might claim. 

Third, It is not up to others (i.e. bistander) to disprove O.U. claims.  It is reasonable
that the burden of proof rest upon any claimant of what is extra ordinary, to demonstrate
and CLEARLY AND PLAINLY describe their method or device,

and

to show measurements along with the methods of how those measurements were taken.

 best wishes
          floor

Floor, Thank you!

We are conducting research! I hope it will be useful to someone.  My goal is to create transparent technologies available for creating devices for generating energy without fuel in a closed cycle.

Unfortunately, the technology that we are "discussing" here is really very expensive, though. The main thing is that the pattern I described is logical.

All the best!

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 25, 2021, 02:35:37 PM
:)  ;)

I calculated the electromagnetic moment of the simplest generator and the Ampere force. Yes, indeed, the peak: electrical power is equal to mechanical power.

Something very interesting showed up, with variations in ampere-strength. Discoveries are ruled by chance!

We will consider how to make a generator in the area of research of Adams and Tewari.

https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/generator_torque/3-1-0-138?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=nui

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 26, 2021, 08:41:42 AM
Later, the author apologized for the mistake, telling in the first video about the orientation of the magnets in the yoke. Its installation option is the same as in the first picture. This is confirmed by constant physics, according to which the higher the density of the magnetic flux (magnetic induction), the more effective the Ampere force. It remains unclear why science claims that mechanical and electrical power are equal, when in the case of the simplest electric machine at the point of maximum EMF and current in the circuit, mechanical power is twice as much as electric, in an ideal machine without cores. The condition of an ideal flow that permeates a conductor with a current, if the conductor or the field move one side to each other, only the condition of the resulting force = 1/2 Ampere of force is fulfilled.
The opening didn't work out! ;)) In any case, we are moving on to complex systems.

We need to look for a solution for the generator design that would have an efficiency coefficient greater than 1. This is what we will do on the pages of my manual. Today there is a variant of such a machine with pronounced poles, which excludes the complete closure of the magnetic flux in the magnetic circuit - the rotor-stator, painted and implemented in the theory of Robert Adams with a vivid illustration in the patent of Karl Latmmer 1983-86 (Australia). Also consider a system with an inertial drive flywheel. The flywheel has an interesting feature in the overclocked state, when the operation of the system is organized in the overclocking-eat mode. Acceleration is carried out from the point when the application of force for acceleration is minimal, and removal is carried out by braking the inertia of the flywheel, through the control of the removed power, to the point of acceleration.  It is on this principle that the installation of the autonomous generator "Earth Engine" is built by Соmpany IE, USA. And yet, at the request of readers, we will consider in more detail, and find the optimal variant of the machine described in my book "A-Generator"

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 26, 2021, 05:27:25 PM
I recently received a letter from my long-time reader, a clear supporter of the Law of Conservation of Energy.
I think he won't be offended if I publish it!

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Good time!
Have you solved this problem yet? Are there any other unresolved issues? 
You yourself have hastened to make sudden conclusions, my restless friend, and haste is a bad companion on a journey.
You have found the grain of how a wire interacts with a current in a magnetic field.  You have very little left.
Your efforts with your friend are very commendable. You just need to be able to set yourself the right tasks to conduct practical tests.
Traditionally, thrust force measurements are carried out! 
In fact, when testing a laboratory sample, this condition has just been met. The wire with the current stuck to the magnetic pole with a force corresponding to the gap between the wire and the magnetic pole, the magnetic induction of the magnet at this point and the current strength in the wire along the entire length of the attraction zone. The force of attraction was determined by the distance between the sources of the magnetic field. Have you really not heard anything about such an element of the magnetic field force as lines of force, which, as I will point out to you, are capable of contracting and stretching. In the drawings they are called isolines. Their densest manifestation will be at the pole. You should also make an imitation of a wire with a current with a gap, without shifting to the edges of the poles of the magnet. In my last post, I recommended that you use an incompressible non-magnetic material superimposed on the poles of a magnet. In the generator, this distance does not change to establish the truth, it cannot be changed in the experiment.  In addition, it is necessary to eliminate the friction force of the movable element.  I recommend making such an element with the possibility of changing the gap. The magnetic clamp must have a cross-section equal to the cross-section of the magnet, the magnetic resistance in the magnetic circuit has not been canceled.
I have given you a drawing, you have the opportunity to depict it in a more visual form using electronic means. The red color indicates only the condition of the gasket at a constant distance when measuring magnetic thrust.  It is impossible to apply the ampere force constant without taking into account many factors. I hope that you will do everything right and make sure that the Law of Conservation of Energy does not need to be ignored.

https://youtu.be/EaJQ3igxD_U

I have a clear excess of two times the mechanical power over the electrical.

A perfect calculation indicates a mismatch. I calculated the ideal generator circuit for 1 kW, if we take into account the length of the active wire and the current in the circuit with the condition that the EMF voltage drops to the mains voltage level according to the formula I = E-U / R+r, just the resulting electrical power is two times less than the mechanical power on the shaft.

I have a clear calculation for today.
The power of the electric machine is "considered" from the maximum EMF, then 440V * 4.55 A = 2002 W (2 kW), which is confirmed by the calculation through the Ampere Force and the electromagnetic moment.
The power of the load is 1 kW at 220 V, (1000/220 = 4.55 A). In
order to obtain a current in the circuit for the load at the appropriate voltage, an appropriate no-load EMF is required.

It still remains to find out the correctness of the calculation of the ampere force / electromagnetic force.

PS: my mistake was just in the incorrect application of the value of r in the formula: B=μ₀*I/2nr.  I took it for the distance to the magnetic pole - 1 mm.  It was necessary to specify the distance when the opposite magnetic inductions are equal, that's the thing. I was instructed to perform a balance, which actually determines the Law of Conservation of Energy.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2021, 02:42:53 PM
Just a basic calculation. In the statement of the constant: 1 Tesla = 1 Newton / 1 Ampere * 1 meter, the dimensionality of the distance of the field boundary of the wire for equilibrium with the external field is equal to the minimum, in fact, the surface of the conductor.   I calculated both conditions. In reality, based on the experiments conducted, there was not a single case that the distance was equivalent to the surface of the conductor.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 28, 2021, 05:23:59 PM
In any case, in the simplest generator, at ideal values, the mechanical power on the shaft is twice the electrical power of the load.

That's where the discrepancy is so far! We decide further.

An interesting parallel between ampere power and two wires with current.  In both cases, the length is 1 m, and the current is 1 A.
The distance of a wire with a current of 1 A, when its induction is 1 Tl, is at a distance of 0.0000002 m (seventh decimal place). It is at this boundary of the field that the wires and the external flow interact with each other, and the external field cannot compress the wire field further.
If we consider two conductors with a length of 1 m, with a current of 1 A, then the distance of 0.0000002 m between the wires with magnetic induction circuits of 1 Tl, the force of attraction of the wires will be 9.86 Newtons (gravitational constant 9.81).
If we assume that the second conductor is an external magnetic field, then to calculate the power of the amplifier as a result of the attraction force of 1 N, the current in it will correspond to 0.1 A.
It can be concluded about the ratio of the current to the magnetic induction of the field, who is the helmsman, in the condition of the "Ampere Force".



Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 28, 2021, 11:56:19 PM
Just a basic calculation. In the statement of the constant: 1 Tesla = 1 Newton / 1 Ampere * 1 meter, the dimensionality of the distance of the field boundary of the wire for equilibrium with the external field is equal to the minimum, in fact, the surface of the conductor.   I calculated both conditions. In reality, based on the experiments conducted, there was not a single case that the distance was equivalent to the surface of the conductor.

Mr. Rakarskiy,
I mentioned previously you misapply Ampere's Force Law. Now you use a units definition as a method to calculate a variable. It is not an equation intended for such use.
bi

(edit) excuse me please. I have lost the URL where I copied the graphic used. Similar can be easily found by search for "physics units of tesla".
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 29, 2021, 12:11:02 PM
Mr. Rakarskiy,
I mentioned previously you misapply Ampere's Force Law. Now you use a units definition as a method to calculate a variable. It is not an equation intended for such use.
bi

(edit) excuse me please. I have lost the URL where I copied the graphic used. Similar can be easily found by search for "physics units of tesla".


Listen, "the expert who failed the test", what Tesla and Gauss are ( probably heard about such a dimensionality of the magnetic field), I have charmingly known since the 80s of the last century.   I can count very well, even better than many.

Quote
Tesla as a unit of measurement:
Tesla is a unit of measurement of magnetic flux density, magnetic field strength and induction in the International System of Units (SI), named after the inventor Nikola Tesla.

Tesla as a unit of measurement has the Russian designation - Tлl and the international designation - T.

1 tesla is equal to the induction of such a homogeneous magnetic field in which a force of 1 newton acts on 1 meter of the length of a straight conductor perpendicular to the magnetic induction vector with a current of 1 ampere. In other words, one Tesla is equal to the field strength acting on a conductor with a force of one newton per meter of conductor at a current strength for each ampere of current.

Similarly, one Tesla represents a magnetic flux density of one weber per square meter of area.

T = kg / (c2 · A) = N / (A · m) = Wb / m2.

1 T = 1 kg / (1 s2 · 1 A) = 1 N / (1 A · 1 m) = 1 Wb / 1 m2.

Tesla was introduced into the International System of Units by the decision of the XI General Conference on Weights and Measures in 1960, simultaneously with the adoption of the SI system as a whole. In accordance with the SI rules concerning derived units named after scientists, the name of the Tesla unit is written with a lowercase letter, and its designation is capitalized (Tl). This spelling of the designation is also preserved in the designations of derived units formed using Tesla.

I suggest you do your calculation! If you can't, then it's better to just be a spectator. Otherwise, the employer is uneven, read your conclusions
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on November 29, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
Rather cumbersome isn't it? And in the end will prove nothing due to circular reasoning. Why not just build your toy simplest generator and test it? 1700% efficiency published in your book. And that wasn't worth building the simplest generator and a test.
bi
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 29, 2021, 01:58:16 PM
@ rakarskiy

Build and test your principle in a simple experiment.


floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 29, 2021, 02:29:54 PM
@ rakarskiy

Build and test your principle in a simple experiment.


floor

What's the point of building it when I found a bug.

In the calculations of the magnetic induction of the wire, I set the distance from the wire to the pole equal to 1 mm (the gap distance between the wire and the pole). With the help of my friend, this error was proved experimentally. This distance should be taken into account in an ideal state according to the formula:(r = μ₀*(2π*Bm / I) ), where Bm is the magnetic induction of the external field. this distance will indicate where the inductions of the external field and the conductor are equal.
The algorithm for calculating the generator and the circuit with the generator is absolutely correct.

Your friend is just a little crazy. I don't take anyone's word for it, just calculation. And our friend is very slow to think. If you want to have a dialogue with me, you need to process information faster.

If initially the constant that in an ideal engine and generator their power - electrical and mechanical, are equal, was questioned. The possibility of creating a simple generator with a СОР>1 was considered.
Now, if we calculate the power of the maximum EMF point and the torque, the mechanical power is always twice as much as the electrical one. And here's another catch, due to the reversibility of machines, the possibility of creating an electric motor with a conversion efficiency greater than 1, which cannot be.

They have already tried to prove to me that it is necessary to take into account the voltage drop in the generator circuit, I do not agree with this, since the moment is calculated from the current strength. No one has solved this problem yet. The constant is not executed.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 30, 2021, 06:53:25 AM
What's the point of building it when I found a bug.

No point... since you found a bug... unless more / other insights comes from a build.

best wishes
         floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lota on November 30, 2021, 07:54:15 AM

Hello
now you have calculated so much. Whether everything is right or not? But how should the generator for TOYIR Kamolov bike be? It is four poles. The diameter approx. 160mm the width approx. 80mm. With neodymium magnets. Wire approx. 0.5mm. Can you do the math?? I built the engine with flywheel but the generator is the problem.
Greeting
Lota
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 30, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
Hello
now you have calculated so much. Whether everything is right or not? But how should the generator for TOYIR Kamolov bike be? It is four poles. The diameter approx. 160mm the width approx. 80mm. With neodymium magnets. Wire approx. 0.5mm. Can you do the math?? I built the engine with flywheel but the generator is the problem.
Greeting
Lota

If such as that of TOYIR (Uzbekistan), the generator should be controlled by the power of the phase (the simplest power regulator). At the output of the generator phase, put a bridge and a regulator with a thyristor in front of it, find the position when the flywheel and the motor are working, and the generator does not slow it down more than necessary. This is the only correct solution for a traditional generator with an inertial drive. So it was decided in all successful projects, including the American "Earth Engine"https://rakarskiy.livejournal.com/12789.html .

Each phase has its own power regulator
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: lota on November 30, 2021, 01:07:29 PM

Hello
OK I'll try. But in the video he only has a power regulator and a BLCD driver. One interrupter and two relays and throttle. I don't know what the transformer is for yet.
Greeting
Lota
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nj9m2UEBs&t=0s

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on November 30, 2021, 02:03:49 PM
Hello
OK I'll try. But in the video he only has a power regulator and a BLCD driver. One interrupter and two relays and throttle. I don't know what the transformer is for yet.
Greeting
Lota
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nj9m2UEBs&t=0s

My article on the device, https://rakarskiy.livejournal.com/16587.html    my video in the article. There is also a diagram of how the power limitation works. For example, a generator for 24-36-48 V at nominal rotation, a thyristor control is organized through a voltage regulator relay for a 14 V car.  As with two-phase diode bridges, I showed above. This is not the exact solution of how it works, this is my guess. Logic suggests exactly this solution.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on November 30, 2021, 05:50:17 PM
Tesla car motor..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esUb7Zy5Oio
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 02, 2021, 10:03:48 PM
In general, there is a small idea that of course requires verification, at least somehow explains the difference.
In any wire, when creating a field, there is a voltage drop, in principle, we calculate it U = E - (I *R +r) the drop coefficient kU = E / U
and take it into account in the formula: calculating the distance r :

r =μ₀*I*kU/(2π*Bm)

Then for 1 kW of mechanical to 1 kW of electric, we go out jewelry, you just need to check the fulfillment of this dependence.

********

Theoretically, based on the DED experiment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaJQ3igxD_U&t=89s) of measuring the Ampere force in the gap between magnets with a clamp, I established a direct relationship of the Ampere force with the level of voltage drop in the conductor. Just as the voltage drops by orders of magnitude, so the point of resultant magnetic induction of the conductor grows.

It can be concluded that the basic condition of the formula of the magnetic induction module of the electromagnetic force: B = F / L*I is based without taking into account the conductor field based on the electrical voltage. And in fact, it just probably matters. Direct dependence is too clearly cutting the eye

The Mitkevich equation is not correct, since it takes into account the EMF of the conductor, and the magnetic induction of the magnetic field, and follows the voltage at the terminals of the generator under load and the resulting magnetic induction, taking into account the voltage drop in the conductor.

Constant: B = F/L*I is derived for full power or absolute voltage drop. It turns out that way, in any case, this is the only explanation for the results. Taking into account this information, the mechanical power and electrical power of an ideal generator are equal. The problem is solved.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 06, 2021, 07:58:03 PM
My material is about the possibilities of electro-mechanical (electromechanical) converters
Some will turn their brains upside down, some will not be able to finish reading the first part. Alas, there is no point in reading without basic knowledge.

The material in Russian / through a translator can be read
The first part: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/ehlektromekhanicheskij_preobrazovatel_sor_gt_1_raschet_cepi/3-1-0-139
The second part: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/generator_torque/3-1-0-138
The third part: http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/calculation_generator_motor/3-1-0-140

Quote:
Still, ask "why does the motor have this result". Let's look at the peak ampere strength in the generator winding and the active motor winding:
Generator: peak Ampere force of 128.86 Newtons (excluding electromagnetic focal thrust) with a thickness/length of the rotor along the axis of 74 mm (1.5 kW of electrical power)
Motor: peak Ampere force of 271.55 Newtons with a thickness / length of the rotor along the axis of 158 mm (0.396 kW of electrical power). How did it happen?
Understand, everything is in the material, I think there is enough material to just think about whether we know everything about electromechanical converters.
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 07, 2021, 07:23:10 AM
http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_ld/0/40_Electromechanic.pdf

edit later - technical translation
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 09, 2021, 08:17:01 PM
A caring guy conducted a demonstration experiment for me with a simple generator. For which I am very grateful to him!

Video clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOq1TN3lnIo

My updated theory is fully confirmed. My analysis is on the slide, if you can read the formulas, everything can be seen in the palm of your hand.

I have already been asked questions about the motor that I described in the article.  I will do a full analysis and methodology in the manual.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 10, 2021, 11:40:20 AM
I analyzed the experiment more deeply and found inaccuracies in determining the magnetic induction of a magnet in the wire area.
My method is very correct, I am very happy about it.
The magnetic induction of the magnet can be calculated on this page:

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/calculator.asp?calcType=block

PS: I haven't found anywhere else yet, a similar methodology for calculating the resulting ampere force



Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: bistander on December 11, 2021, 02:35:53 AM
Looking for something like this?
bi

https://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/electromagnetism/ampere_law

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 16, 2021, 10:35:11 AM
In general, I corrected my calculations a little, and everything came closer to equilibrium. The coefficient for the resulting magnetic induction in the calculation of the ampere force must be calculated more simply k' =U' / E, where - U' is the dimension of the voltage drop U' = I*∑R the product of the current by the total resistance of the circuit, including the reactance (in electrical engineering, the inductive resistance x = L * f). As a result, everything converges to the point of correctness of the table data (up to 20 turns). If there were no reactance, then the electrical and mechanical power of the generator would be equal. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOq1TN3lnIo&t=77s


Having studied and worked out the ampere power system, I immediately identified the engine option: two-phase. control of electric valves with compensation of the reactance of the circuit during switching.
I do not know what will come of it, but the calculation is still beneficial to the prospect.
 *

http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_pu/1/92585013.jpg
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 24, 2021, 08:39:22 PM

Have a good time, friends!
Caring guy Rich, made a clarifying experiment for magnetic induction from a magnet in the area of the wire of his generator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAM9TLfUDkQ&t=30s

Unfortunately, his measurements are inaccurate. The reason is its data on the current strength, the resistance of the circuit with the load, the voltage at the terminals of the generator at 15 turns.
These data are sufficient to calculate the magnetic induction from the magnetic pole in the area of the generator winding wire.

To find out the voltage drop during current induction, it is enough to multiply the resistance of the circuit by the current strength in the circuit:  U'=R*Ig = 4 Ohm * 1.3 A = 5.4 V
Next, the voltage at the terminals of the generator connected to the load is added to the drop voltage and we get the EMF of the generator:  E = U'+Ug = 5.4 + 10.4 = 15.6 V
The rate of change of magnetic induction is determined by this formula: v = π*r*rpm/30  it will be: 11,52 m / s.
The length of one coil of the active wire is 0.66 meters * 15 turns: L = 9.90 meters

Now we are from the EMF formula [E = Bm*L*v]  we can find magnetic induction: Bm = E/v/L  = 15.6V / 9.9 m / 11.52 m/s  =  0.1369 T  [As you can see, its value is not equal to 0.082 T].

you can use a calculator to calculate the magnetic induction and force for a magnet at a distance: https://www.kjmagnetics.com/calculator.asp?calcType=block

Next, to determine the resulting ampere force, you need to calculate the resulting magnetic induction, for this I recommend using my method of multiplying the resulting magnetic induction by the voltage drop coefficient:  k' = Ug/E  =  10.4 / 15.6 = 0.67   
If you want, call this coefficient - the Rakarsky coefficient, but it will not change the essence.

Next, we find the value of the resulting magnetic induction from the value of the magnetic induction of the magnet:  B = Bm * k'  =   0.1369 T  * 0.67  =  0.091 T.

Next, we find the ampere force and the electromagnetic moment, which is 0.065 N * m (yellow row of the table)

If we take the electrical power of the generator under load: 10.4 V * 1.3 A = 13.52 W, we can calculate its electromagnetic moment by the formula: Mg=Рg*9,55/rpm   = 13,52*9,55/2000 = 0,065 Nm.

The electrical and mechanical power of the generator are equal, the problem is solved.

Rich, thank you for the experiments, write me an email.

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: Floor on December 26, 2021, 04:55:54 PM
@ rakarskiy 

nice presentation

        thanks
             floor
Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: rakarskiy on December 30, 2021, 03:49:51 PM
@ rakarskiy 

nice presentation

        thanks
             floor

I have summarized a little the materials on the Ampere Force and the resulting magnetic force. It turns out quite a position that the magnetic induction of the wire, and the voltage drop across the active section of the conductor (in fact, the dimensionality of the vortex electric field) is the main parameter for the resulting electromagnetic force. This moment is not depicted in any way in the physics textbooks of secondary and higher schools.

https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/rezultirujushhaja_sila_ampera/3-1-0-146?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru

Title: Re: The book is dedicated to self-propelled mechanical generating devices.
Post by: kolbacict on February 27, 2022, 08:37:49 PM
And in Slobodyan's motor, is it important that the poles of the magnets be in two dimensions?
In the form of a long drum.