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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2895 on: September 17, 2019, 03:01:43 AM »
There is  no overunity   
there  never was overunity  . 
Such thing  as overunity doesn't exist.

in refrigeration system COP>1 but that is classical and trivial phenomena
explained so many times.
So just keep in mind what  I said.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2896 on: September 17, 2019, 03:14:55 AM »
There is  no overunity   
there  never was overunity  . 
Such thing  as overunity doesn't exist.

in refrigeration system COP>1 but that is classical and trivial phenomena
explained so many times.
So just keep in mind what  I said.
Wesley

Ok, there is no overunity.

As long as it lasts forever or almost, and never requires fuel or anything.

Call it whatever you want, I'll be happy.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2897 on: September 17, 2019, 03:42:38 AM »
question  to Wesley:
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I used a stack of rings cores  wound it with 48 turns and added a parallel cap of 0.2 uf. 200nf
and fed it with 40khz resonance max amplitude placed one scope channel across the coil and stabbed each turn of the winding in turn
hoping to get a phase shift up the coil but all that changed was the amplitude.
Any idea's or what am I doing wrong ?

This  require  to  go  to:
- wave  velocity
-group  velocity 
-phase velocity 
-slow wave
-and slow wave velocity 
and that is a  lot of  talk.

The problem  is  trivial  if you deal with two  signals  instead  of  one.
https://www.britannica.com/science/wave-velocity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity

if you go by that link below:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/369046/transfer-function-of-phase-change-controlled-with-capacitance
or
If you just take  the title  of it :
phase change controlled with capacitance
and  google for easier answer
you may end with easier explanation
like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGel5QNSkIQ
and that is good explanation for capacitive reactive  circuits.

other links;
RLC Circuits (5 of 14) Inductive Reactance; Phase Shift, Phasor Diagrams, Frequency, An Explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEjBHmXDBqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idf1JQ003nc
RLC Circuits (13 of 14) Summary of RLC Circuit Analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30J5U0ThRUc
Phase Shift in AC Signals



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXZ9C914S0
Build A Simple Phase Shift Circuit
this should be easy enough
basically  without going to anything difficult
it is behavior of two reactantces  capacitive reactance and inductive reactance in the  same circuit.
and that can be shown easily on Smith Chart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_chart

other example:
from practical stand point
1.If you feed two coils with the same signal   but number  of turns is  different  than you get phase shift
2 If you feed straight piece of wire and  coil from the same signal  than you get phase shift
3. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but one coil has capacitor in series than you get phase shift ( however  F  of resonance will not be the same)
4. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but one coil has capacitor in parallel  than you get phase shift ( however  F  of resonance will not be the same)
5. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but pitch ( space  between winds is not the same)  than you get phase shift
  and so on.....
6. take two coils but  one of  the coils will have few winds in  CCW  you  will get   phase shift

hint:
1.wind two windings  on the former  with   the same number of winds.like bifilar.
2.connect two ends  together at the bottom and two  ends together   from the other side   of assembly.
3.  feed it from the same generator
4. now try to short   few winds  of  one of the coils with piece of wire and look at scope.
you will see two signals separated by delay.
if you carefully  chose the <short point> you  will regulate phase.
but to  see  that you need to adjust frequency !!!!!

one possible explanation out of many:

if there is difference between two coils in length  of the wire  than one signal from one of the coils will arrive faster than the signal from second coil.
the signal from  the coil with more  winds is called slow wave 

 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2898 on: September 17, 2019, 05:52:38 PM »
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However  that device or rather   mechanical concept  of two pancake shape coiled springs ( mechanical watch  springs)
I assumed that these were not coil springs, but trajectories of motion of some mass.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2899 on: September 17, 2019, 07:57:50 PM »
It doesn't matter .
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coil springs, but trajectories of motion of some mass.
is 
-the classical mechanics.
-vectors of force are  seen from perspective of classical mechanics.
some mix in explanation
main link: 
https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg537616/#msg537616
shown in sub-link here:
https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/dlattach/attach/173699/image//
is author   attempt to  explain quantum mechanics phenomena  using  classical mechanics .
and that is simply impossible.

reactive capacitive  and inductive  response of  the piece of wire has  nothing to do  with  mechanical model created by   author.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2900 on: September 18, 2019, 12:25:20 AM »
Standing wave and resonance - two required conditions to send energy via surface wave.
Do we have standing wave at resonance in series LC circuit ( tesla coil ) or
they are adjusted separately?
Magnet wire is sold in spools of aprox. length. Unfortunately i have wind my coils without
making a measurement. Now this two "same" coils are not same at all.
How can i choose top load capacitance to get all the numbers right.
"Approximately" 500 feet 25awg wire and coil  has  3.89mH  . I tried to measure  ohms and
compare it to online calculators but its not taking me anywhere.

Thx



 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2901 on: September 18, 2019, 03:14:25 AM »
Comment #1

Chet :
the three of the most important posts start reading from this one   down

the most important is the last one

and  than  go  to comment#4 link  below
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg539098/#msg539098

standing wave at resonance in series LC circuit ( tesla coil )   is present  when wave is trapped due to  load  impedance mismatch or  lack of load.
Standing wave  manifests   only lack of  ways to  escape and dissipate.
Resonance is the  resonance of the LC  circuit

To understand it analyze first  traditional configuration
So lets take for example   regular  traditional configuration:
1. Tx or  generator with small  or very small power
2. RF amplifier (amplifying  circuit at high or higher power)
3. Output   of -( point 2)    and connected to it  transmission  line that  has 50 Ohm  impedance
3a transmission line is  the  feed between antenna and Tx
4. antenna  ( it could be  our Tesla coil or dipole  or just 50 Ohm   purely resistive resistor

Process:
-Tx (1) is sending signal to  IN  of  amplifier (2)
- OUT  of (2) is  connected to   transmission line coax cable  50 Ohm.
-end (OUT) of  coax cable is  terminated by 50 Ohm resistor (4)   or by 50 ohm antenna
- 50 ohm  resistor (4)  can't resonate because it has no L and no C  (it is  purely resistive resistor)
Result:
There is no standing wave:
signal from generator,send to amplifier and than to transmission line is  dissipating  on  the 50  Ohm load.
but amplifier must be  having  its circuitry tuned   to the resistance of  the load (4) or impedance of antenna (4)

CASE IF IMPEDANCE MISMATCH:
when:
-load  e.g( resistor (4) is not present)
or
- load e.g(antenna (4) is not present)
or
- end of transmission line is shorted or open
we  have impedance mismatch and presence of  standing wave in transmission  line.
Any structure  that has no ways for wave to radiate has standing wave.


Standing  Wave:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave
standing wave, also known as a stationary wave, is a wave which oscillates in time but whose peak amplitude
profile does not move in space.  The peak amplitude of the wave oscillations at any point in space is constant with time,
and the oscillations at different points throughout the wave are in phase.   
The locations at which the amplitude is minimum are called nodes, and the locations where the amplitude is maximum are called antinodes.


Interesting  is  comment  of J.Corum vs comment of  scientist with  experiment
presented here:
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=367
-he says that to  lunch   Zenneck wave in  the interface he doesn't need to  have standing wave at first.
-Dr J.Corum says  that standing wave is a  must to  be prior of lunching  surface  wave known as  Zenneck  Wave.

But at the end  we  must understand that only  the energy( or part of  energy)  that escaped from vertically polarized standing  wave in Tesla Coil
is the  one that travels to  interface.
Standing wave is also  the wave that can be  small or  the biggest at its amplitude
And  that is  due to  resonance conditions in  that coil structure but without ability to excape.

Wesley 
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2902 on: September 18, 2019, 03:25:20 AM »

Comment #2
numbers  used  here  corresponds with  numbering from the post
comment#1

To  better understand standing  wave:
Lets think for the moment that :
our coil  is just  our resonance circuit( Tesla coil) that is tuned to given frequency of resonance.
The structure  is  not an antenna (4) and does   not meet  conditions   of  the LOAD  (4) -  so energy  is  not dissipated.
and it has  top capacitor  and is connected to  the ground 
And lets say that energy has  no way to escape and it is bouncing between top and the  bottom of  the Tesla coil structure
the maximum  of amplitude of this standing  wave has been reached /.

than  :
that would be  typical   phenomena you are able  to  achieve at typical Tesla coil.
Energy  is at its highest and is trapped.
It is manifesting itself  with   few lobs at the same sort of  fixed  point/ points
(when you move LED  probe along its length  you will see these lobs when LED goes OFF)   

At the end  we  need to  have part or whole of this energy to escape in right form and polarization angle  to
interface. 
So whether you  have or don't have standing  wave the desired effect is for this energy to land  in the interface

interface  is:
the  space   (sort  of 2D ) between two media of different  conductive  or  dielectric properties.
in our case it would be
- air the dielectric
and
- earth surface the lossy  conductive media
The electric field  of the EM  wave  will  be "vanished"  in walls  of that interface  leaving the wave in  TM mode traveling inside of that interface. 
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/antennas-propagation/rf-feeders-transmission-lines/waveguide-modes-te-tm-tem.php

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When  another Tesla coil that serves as  the  receiver (Rx)   is at some distance  ( take it just without calculation as 55 - 67 feet) at frequency of 1.5Mhz
you  are  at edge of Near Field    everything that is  more than that   distance is your  Far Field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

the lower is the frequency  the better are the results   and lower losses. 
the closer you are  to Schumann resonance frequency the better
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

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for your entertainment not related to  subject  discussed  here:
by  the rules  of physics the way  we understand  it today   
You can  not go to the past  but you  can go to  the future.
So you can  speed up  the time  for yourself when others are at "normal time frame"
others will  get older  in  "normal" time frame  but you will  older  slower   or much much  slower than others.
and  this is due to the time passing  in your reference frame.

I'm not going  into that area, and I don't want Pandora box  to be  open.
I'm traditional in physics and I don't publish nonsense here.   
 :)

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2903 on: September 18, 2019, 04:25:03 AM »

Comment #3
Chet the three of the most important posts - start from this one   up
and  this  one is  the  most important of all

after you  done with  the three  of the comments  go  to comment #4 link below
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg539098/#msg539098


numbers  used  here  corresponds with  numbering from the post
comment#1
For all of you about standing wave:
Standing wave is not something unique.
In traditional Tesla coil standing  wave is  "normal"
and is  almost always present
However the  amplitude of that Standing Wave    and  its  frequency  and   polarization of RF
and by that  the right Brewster angle is most of  the time  not matching   requirement of  that  energy  to escape from standing wave  and land into the interface.

The  most important   you  don't understand till  now is:
The system made out of Tx Tesla coil and Rx Tesla coil at some distance from  the first one
is ONE REACTIVE CIRCUIT!!!!!
 the Rx  serves as   the  LOAD (4)
-if there is no LOAD (4) than energy in the interface is not  lost, but this energy  is also  not used.
-the proper termination  and energy  dissipation is realized by  applying load !!!


The  LOAD and impedance match  of  the load to the impedance of resonating Tx (transmitter) Tesla coil makes the trick.
There is  no  energy consumption - no energy dissipation - no termination  if there is  no LOAD!!!!
the energy is just siting there in  your  Tx Tesla Coil and in your  interface
-and does nothing
-absolutely nothing

as if you had your electrical outlet on  the wall and nothing connected to  it
So to  release   much  or  all of the energy  from  your Tx - the whole  structure of Rx( receiver)including your  light bulb  must match the impedance of  your  Tx( transmitter)


I know that Russian government officials whose duty   is to watch what I'm writing are not happy with that
but  I can joke that they have not much choice and they  may play with  fire.
Do I play with  fire?
Well  take it  this way:
I was dying in 2011  at one point in  time during  my  trip to Tariel Kapanadze, and I'm not happy  with that, so  I'm no longer  in fear. 
..did I mention vendetta, vengeance,  revenge    ?
no, not at all :)

So now:
to be able  to extract energy from Schumann waveguide the training with Viziv (training with sending energy  from point A to point B is needed)
And my writing here and my videos is  the  preventive  measure  taken for this art  to be preserved for others  in case... just in case...

In both  instances we are dealing with energy  in the interface  and form of this energy is exactly the same -the surface wave
The only difference is  our transmitter.
At training :  we are dealing with  physical man made Tx
and  we want
to deal with  receive only where:
- our Tx is now the  Schumann waveguide.
- our interface is  exactly the  same
- our Rx is exactly the same but differently tuned.
-  there  is  factor of activation ( not discussed here)
and that will  be our Kapanadze.
   

Wesley   
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2904 on: September 18, 2019, 01:48:30 PM »
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg539061/#msg539061
Hi Wesley, are you referring to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPe3DiYt2o the blue coil, it's almost like a Colpitts or perhaps a high powered Hartley oscillator which has a tap near the bottom end to earth and a cap across the tank coil, look at Nelsons stuff although he told Hoppy it was a homemade capacitor, this type of coil is highly efficient if the correct tap location is found for frequency and impedance matching, resonance  and output power.

Also on viewing the listed video, I noticed a lot of frames where you have crossed issues out, I don't suppose you have any corrections available?

kind regards
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2905 on: September 18, 2019, 01:54:01 PM »
Comment #4
this comment is  related  to  three  posts starting from  post  comment#1   here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg539086/#msg539086
You need to  read the three of previous  comments indicated by  the link  in order to  understand    this one

Problems of Viziv:
Because  entire system made from Tx( transmitter) and Rx  (receiver) is REACTIVE
- it is the Load ( entire Rx with  lightbulb impedance), that makes the Tx having problems or having no problems.
So  whenever you are making changes in load value there   is the must for operator from Tx Viziv site  to retune Tx
as to the point of maximum power transfer from  Tx  to Rx.

The second  scenario is  to   do  not touch  Tx but make Rx to match impedance   of Tx.
(That Rx can be miles/km-ters away from Tx.)
But if  you don't control   what is going on at Tx Tesla Tower   , than your transmitter Tx must be strong enough/protected
against overload due to  that impedance mismatch between  Tx  ad Rx

For simple people the  simplest possible explanation
The example of two people husband and wife  at the distance of  67ft / ( 20m):


Husband is bigger and massive.
Wife is mostly  supported somehow by husband.
She gets from her husband  that support ( energy)  whenever she is in need of that support.
Husband has one end of the rope  wrapped around his hand   and he can do nothing about it .
Wife  can:
- pull the rope from  the distance of 67ft
or
-drop the rope
or 
- she keeps constant tension on that  rope ( but she  is drawing energy from her husband anyhow)
and she can ask her two children   for help  with  pulling the rope.

Imagine that your  Tx is  you the  Husband , and  your Rx is your Wife trying to pull your hand wrapped by    one end of the rope.
- you will always feel that she is doing so.
if she  pulls the rope  to rapidly you  may fall down and injure yourself. 
but  if she is not yet  holding the other end  of  rope than there is  no mechanical link between two of you.
-in  this case  the husband is somewhere near her,  and nothing more.  But  she can  pull the rope whenever  she wants to :)

That what is said above explains the dependency of the Tx from Rx
Such a system is called
REACTIVE SYSTEM
Wesley
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« Reply #2906 on: September 18, 2019, 02:14:01 PM »
To #2897 :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheology

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-Kelvin-Voigt-Maxwell-model-The-Kelvin-Voigt-model-includes-an-ideal-spring-a-s-and-a_fig1_312873564

https://www.oatext.com/electrical-analogs-for-kelvin-viscoelastic-materials-applications-to-cornea-sclera.php

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fceonaires.com%2Fwiki%2Fuhren%2Funruh%2F

https://www.seikowatches.com/nz-en/customerservice/knowledge/kinetic-direct-drive-knowledge

ccw + cw energy stream conversion  : ccw + cw = energy parity or amplification  ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840807&CC=US&NR=4464095A&KC=A#

ccw/cw - electric motor  ? Effect  ?  ccw-rotor + cw-rotor/stator
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040708&CC=JP&NR=2004194491A&KC=A#

ccw/cw- electric generator : Effect  ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130214&CC=US&NR=2013038069A1&KC=A1#

Does mechanical energy refute the " law of energy conservation" ( law of energy momentum) ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?locale=en_EP&II=3&date=20181011&CC=DE&NR=102017003472A1&ND=3&KC=A1&rnd=1568812472864&adjacent=true&FT=D&DB=EPODOC#
Self-generating mechanical energy?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20180329&CC=DE&NR=102016011669A1&KC=A1#
Electric energy : destroyable  ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20170202&CC=DE&NR=102015009874A1&KC=A1#



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« Reply #2908 on: September 18, 2019, 03:07:51 PM »
WesleyThank you
Starting with the small steps first ,so as to not get tripped up.
will post link here to build page [in this section "wireless energy transfer builders investigation".

much gratitude

Chet
ps Builders Topic under construction [ should be info and items populating this new board over the coming weeks from member GotoLuc

https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539104/#msg539104


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