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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2017, 08:33:13 AM »
Did the tube pieces magnetically lock together
When a short Pulse (D.C.) was placed across the coil?
Curious to see if you got one coil to work.
In theory it should (weakly).
In practice two coils are generally used.


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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2017, 08:37:15 AM »
Did the tube pieces magnetically lock together
When a short Pulse (D.C.) was placed across the coil?
Curious to see if you got one coil to work.
In theory it should (weakly).
In practice two coils are generally used.


Yes it worked, they snapped together.


It would work stronger if I wound it over the whole piece.


Maybe I should.


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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2017, 08:40:19 AM »
I found Daves YouTube channel
https://youtu.be/_8X-kY1o1L0


I didn't replicate all of his work,
But I was able to verify some visual
Distortions.
(Magnetic refraction?)
And several magnetic anomalies
The tubes were just a small part of what he got into
His experiments literally transformed our knowledge
Of the PMH

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2017, 08:46:45 AM »
I show this here becaus in an odd way I find the two
subjects to be closely related.  PMH's occur in nature
When there is a ferromagnetic loop and a magnetic flux.
The loop can trap the flux in a perpetual state.
When the loop is broken, the original flux is released.


It's amazing to realize that this just happens.
We have found PMH's to exist in steel door frames
Parts of elevator systems, giant sandstone outcroppings,
Piles of junk metal at the scrapyard accidentally PMH'ing
I wouldn't be surprised if there were an actual lifeform
That existed in this state.


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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #94 on: February 10, 2017, 09:16:44 AM »

Yes it worked, they snapped together.


It would work stronger if I wound it over the whole piece.


Maybe I should.


I think it works best when one coil is on the piece of tube
To the left of the gap
And an opposite coil is on the piece of tube to the right
This way when the coils are charged up, the magnetic
fields are facing each other n><s
This provides for a stronger magnetic current


As many PMH builders have shown, it can be done with
only one coil, or when you get good at it- with the brushing
or close passing by from a permanent magnet.


But I have found the double-coil set up provided by Ed
To create the strongest locking effect, and field return.
Which are the two primary criteria by which I measure
magnetic current (or quantity storage) in a PMH.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #95 on: February 10, 2017, 09:45:44 AM »
Eds energy he called "magnetic current"
And for all intensive purposes, it fits this name
So I choose to use it, even though mainstream
Science declares it not to exist.


We can see it working in the PMH.
It behaves exactly like electric current
Without the electric vector.
The inverse to electrical resistance is the
result of the phase transition 90-degrees.
Which manifests as magnetic attraction.
The magnitude of the attraction is the induction
Of the applied field. If this field was electric, as
done with a coil in a PMH- the math tells us exactly
The quantity of magnetic current to expect, by using
the materials constants of the inducing ferrite.


The problem science has is mostly conceptual.
There are two aspects to magnetic resistance.
And together they are 'backwards' to how we think
about electricity.
There is almost no resistance to magnetic current in
most ferrites. They are all magnetic superconductors.
Almost all of the resistance lies in the other aspect.
Which is the magnetic induction.
This is where the electric field is converted to the
magnetic vector.
In a normal ferrite the phase transition is a sinosoidal
Process. Electric to magnetic to inverse electric to
inverse magnetic. And the cycle repeats.


This is used in two forms:
a rod-type ferrite (open magnetic circuit)
Or a loop-type ferrite (closed magnetic circuit)
The second type produces less magnetic resistance
For reasons described above, which is why we use
Closed loop magnetic inductors. But I won't get too
deep into that, as it tends to stir emotions with the
Electronics guys....


Anyways, back to magnetic current.
When we induce magnetism into the ferrite
And it is near another ferrite it also causes induction
But the induction is inverse to the applied field.
This is an attribute of the space between them
Not the air or any physical thing.
When we start out with an open circuit
And the fields are facing each other
And induction is occurring
Not only from the electric field
But also from the magnetic domain
Via the spacing
That moment when they snap together
The electric vector phases in with the magnetically
Induced field on each end of the gap.
The magnetic circuit shorts out.
And current flows eternally like an electrical signal would
in a superconductor.
This magnetic current (I theorize) is the force that impels
microscopic particles of ferrite into the foreign object
placed in the gap.
There is a time-based factor involved. But I had not the
tools to examine the exact nature of changes taking place
Other than the objects became inexplicably paramagnetic.
As if alloyed with a ferrite.


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« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2017, 10:00:20 AM »
At the same time, (actually 2-3 pages later in Ed's book)
We learned about negating the universal restriction
Generally attributed to spacial propagation
Otherwise known as:   c
Mind you, IBM had just announced, then quickly denounced
That they had done the same in the laboratory.
Aside from the millions in lab equipment and payroll
The only real difference between Ed's at home experiment
And what IBM was trying to do
Is that Ed taught us the on/off switch
IBM only observed the effects when they accidentally
Turned in on.
Then they would accidentally turn it off without knowing
How or why it would turn on or off.
They explained it as a wave propegation anomaly
and eventually stopped funding it.


But I took up the quest of understanding that part of things
and gave up on PMH research, I studied light.
What is light, what makes light
What makes light move at the speed of light
Why can magnetism and electricity move faster than light
But light can't. I was engrossed in this aspect of Ed's magnetism
 until I met Dave. He found a way
to link the two with his split tube device.
Ed told us they were all the same.
But now we can actually see how magnetic current changes the phase
Of incoming photons.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2017, 10:24:10 AM »
The thing with magnetic current
If it's not in an eternal loop, let's say
An open circuit, driven by an electrical source
The phase transition of the electric current into
The magnetic domain can set up magnetic currents
Through space. Think of it like a tiny wormhole
Between two points on you workbench.
Magnetic current travels through the space between
the two points. While this is going on, any impedance
that would normally be there electrically, goes away.
R=0 between these two points. Transmission is instantaneous.
The magnetic field in this current is the same as the field
That propagates ahead of a photon. The field the photon
'rides on' through space. This is what gives light the speed of c
The field itself propagates instantaneously, but the effects of the
flux caused by the field, occur at c


There doesn't need to be a wire to transmit magnetic currents!
And since we have unified the magnetic transition between electricity
and magnetic current.
Magnetic current and light
We can now propose that light can, create magnetic currents
If light from, say an image, were to converge in a certain way
Some distance from the source, and there was another source
A current could develop somewhere in the space between them.
I won't get into the electrostatic and electromagnetic effects of
screen technology, most of you won't even want to use your
computer anymore. That's like taking a magnet to a bowl of
Crushed up cherios or corn flakes....


This kind of thing could occur from reflections or shadows
Not to bring up the placebo thing again, but our human response
To visual ques is somewhat astonishing.
We can feel things we see
Especially when we don't know it's not real.
Then there's the whole cold water warm water thing
And the upside down eye glasses
A visual disturbance caused by magnetic currents
Could create a physical response, your mind expects something
to be there.
There could also be magnetic perception in your sensory system
A healthy human with enough iron in their blood, can detect fields.
Generally with their hands. Electric more strongly than magnetic, but
Both are reported.
Here we have two aspects of physical manifestation with no material matter.
What exactly is "matter"?
it's mostly empty space, nothing there but electric and magnetic effects.
and light, which is both.






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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #98 on: February 10, 2017, 10:48:08 AM »
Another aspect to consider is thermal conductivity
For the same reason a piece of metal may feel colder or
Hotter than the room it's in....
Magnetism can change the thermal conductivity of atoms
and molecules.
A magnetic current in the air could alter the thermal conductivity
of a space and make it feel warm or cold, depending on the
Temperature of the person and the room.
You can feel these tiny spaces with your fingers.


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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #99 on: February 10, 2017, 09:14:07 PM »
I want to add something...


Smoky2, and I know he's not the only one says that feeling energy is not useful as evidence because he believes that the mind can "Imagine" sensations that are not occurring as a form of Placebo effect.


Now firstly, the mind is likely producing an energy sometimes when people feel something as intention can effect this energy, and things at the quantum level as demonstrated in Quantum Physics experiments.


But even if we concede that we can't trust physical sensations fully, does that mean we never use the sense of touch of feeling in our world to get around and do things?


In the same way people can see things that aren't there, but do we disregard sight?


And audio hallucinations exist.


And we can make mistakes in our thoughts and be deceived...


So why do I trust my life to my ability to drive when I could imagine the physical sensations, sights and sounds and even thoughts and screw up and die and kill others?


It's not even that I can claim these things could only happen to other people, I have "looked but not seen" before.


The reason we still use our senses, our mind even though our whole reality is subjective is because even though in some cases our senses can be fooled (we have all seen images designed to create visual illusions) is because it works most of the time.


Feeling energy from my images and coils is the same way, sometimes it might be too subjective...
Sometimes people might even imagine feeling a sensation that isn't created by my methods, or even create or change an energy with their mind.


But overall most people who can feel the energy are indeed feeling something that is actually there and the feedback they get from feeling is of use.


It just so happens that at this point in time the most important technological discovery we need to master requires trust in ones own senses as we do not yet have a suitable technological means to measure this energy well.


As for magnetic currents, I do think that there is an aetheric energy flow along magnetic fields lines, a magnetic current if you will.
And I do think that the aetheric current and the magnetic current can intermingle.


I still would say that while an interesting technique, the phenomena of a closed magnetic circuit with notable hysteresis maintaining a magnetic field is really not that extraordinary and does not need any special current to explain it.  Still I think one exists and when this energy is ejected out of an locked magnetic circuit and in doing so a pulse can be released that has extraordinary qualities as Norman Wootan has repeatedly found, it can couple into distant electrical components giving a powerful surge.  It's more than just conventional EMF.










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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2017, 10:55:52 PM »
Interested in free energy physics???

NO Not really.  Absolutely worthless without a working prototype.  If this forum doesn't need anything else it is more worthless talk.  Go to the bench and follow scientific process....develop and theory....build a model....examine....establish whether theory right or wrong.....if wrong...start again....if correct THEN and ONLY THEN REPORT RESULTS.

This forum has thousands and thousands posts of worthless crap and nobody test the crap before posting.

Less talk....more testing. 

Considering there is no free energy model yet then there is no free energy physics.  Just dreaming and wank.


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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2017, 11:19:25 PM »
Interested in free energy physics???

NO Not really.  Absolutely worthless without a working prototype.  If this forum doesn't need anything else it is more worthless talk.  Go to the bench and follow scientific process....develop and theory....build a model....examine....establish whether theory right or wrong.....if wrong...start again....if correct THEN and ONLY THEN REPORT RESULTS.

This forum has thousands and thousands posts of worthless crap and nobody test the crap before posting.

Less talk....more testing. 

Considering there is no free energy model yet then there is no free energy physics.  Just dreaming and wank.
Endlessoceans, you couldn't be more wrong.


You see first off what I am presenting is not just talk, I am presenting experiments that people can do and prove to themselves.


But moreover I am suggesting an approach that has great promise.


What you fail to grasp most of all is the reason for the epic failure that is the Free Energy, Antigravity and general fringe research communities.


And the reason is that replicated things tend often not to work, things are hard to repeat, even the original discoverer can have a phenomena they have trouble or can't repeat.


And the reason for this is that the science behind these devices IS NOT based on conventional phenomena!  That is why the results break the rules!


There are LOTS of designs out there!  We don't need more!


What we need is an understanding of how they work and if we are going in the right direction seemingly when we make a change!


Consider the cargo cults making things that look kinda right, but their radios and planes don't work!
They replicate just the outside appearances, they replicate the parts they understand, but show utter ignorance of how these things work.


That is what most are doing in Free Energy by not understanding the underlying mechanism at work!


Could a plumber before electricity accidentally create an electrical circuit and observe strange (to him) effects?


Sure!


Could another plumber try and replicate it, but make small unintentional and unknowing changes such as non-conductive connections, water without salt or other electrolyte, not using suitable metals to create a current etc...


If the anomalous effects were just assumed to be a result of plumbing and there was no understanding of electricity, the odds of successful replication are LOW!


I'm not asking anyone to take this on faith.  If someone can feel the energy and know it works, I can show them how to create it, explain how it works and point to evidence of these principles in use in various Free Energy designs.  I want people to experiment with this not talk about it!


So I don't have a design since what I have can likely make a lot of (genuine) designs already out there work!


John




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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #102 on: February 11, 2017, 12:00:13 AM »
Let me make it simple.


Question #1, Is it reasonable that my extraordinary claims about effecting some under-explored esoteric energy is genuine?
Answer: Such an energy has a long and well established tradition in every culture and has much scientific evidence backing it up, and my own results (unless you accuse me of lying) cannot be explain away entierly as Placebo effect.    So yes it is reasonable and even able to be established to be very likely/certain.  And as I only want to collaborate with those who experience the energy to a level they are personally confident in it's existence, then this is a resounding Yes.


Question #2, Is it reasonable that this energy is responsible for Free Energy?
Answer: Yes, there is ample evidence including the fact that my own results are based on researching such claims.  There are many points to back this up.


Question #3, Is it reasonable that if 1 and 2 are presumed true, that my research might help notably increase the odds of success?
Answer: While it is possible that my research might be incomplete and not offer immediate results, it seems exceedingly likely that by understanding and feeling how this energy is functioning in a design should improve the odds of success.


So while it could lead to quick and extraordinary results, or it might be a somewhat longer path, and to a large extent that is down to participation and luck.


But it is a way that has real promise.

Will it deliver?  Especially since I can guarantee anyone will adopt it, I can't say, but it could.
And everything done in this realm is automatically "Successful" in an aetheric sense.


Which is to say that as all aetheric research is novel and helps gain further understanding, it is all useful, where a conventional Free Energy device attempt that does not work is utterly useless.


So is this a waste of time?  In a field that has been an abject failure chasing its tail?
Because I am only seeking those who can feel the energy, then it is for them clearly a novel approach and if they are as I ask truly "Interested in the underlying physics of Free Energy" then even this line of investigation even without a Free Energy result could gain valuable discoveries and uses.


This is not for those seeking the sure thing, the easy result. This is not for someone who wants to go to wallmart to buy a Free Energy generator.
What I have is for those who want to be pioneers, a new Volta, Ampere or Gauss.
Of course by adding these principles to a straightforward Free Energy generator might result in instant and rapid extraordinary results, even without the ability to feel if lucky.

But I can assure those who take this on, you will have a road map, you won't be chasing your tail (but the energy might)!


John
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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2017, 07:21:58 AM »
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Considering there is no free energy model yet then there is no free energy physics.  Just dreaming and wank.


Of course there is a free energy model and physics to back it up.


Can you see the stars at night?, every star is not unlike our Sun which is a quite ordinary and a fairly small star in reality. Not unlike our Sun every star radiates massive amounts of energy. Our Sun has radiated energy into space for around 4.5 billion years in every direction and the extremely small portion which strikes the Earth is around 174 quadrillion watts.


Now the obvious question is where did all that Electromagnetic Energy covering most of the EM spectrum from out little star and the trillions of other stars out there go?. If Energy is conserved then logically Energy must be everywhere in everything... this is our model. If you need proof simply look up on a clear night... all those stars is your proof.


The physics are not complicated and we know for certain the universe is full of EM Energy and matter is as well. Nuclear fission liberates Energy from matter and in the future fusion will be able to liberate this same energy from ordinary matter just like our Sun. However the supposedly free energy we are concerned with is a little different. Just to recap, the sun and stars prove the universe is full of energy and nuclear fission physics proves matter is full of energy... are we good so far?.


So obviously we have no shortage of energy because we have absolute proof beyond all shadow of doubt we are swimming in a sea of Energy... end of debate. Now to say we can never get at this Energy is absurd because not long ago we were rubbing two sticks together to light fires and now we have nuclear power. Conservatively speaking this transformation of technology occurred over the last 200 years. 200 years... so where do you think we will be 200 years from now because I can assure you everything will change.


In a nutshell there is no overunity or underunity there is only Energy. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed it can only be transformed. So we are simply speaking of finding new ways to transform energy we know as a fact is present everywhere. As I said in the last 200 years we went from campfires to nuclear fission and now solar energy is cheaper than oil and gas. The reason we are here is because we have come to understand there are easier cheaper ways to transform energy. Not a big deal and I thought it was obvious that at some point we would create better energy technologies. Everything is always changing so why would anyone assume it wouldn't?... it makes no sense.


Volta's battery, Faraday's mutual induction, Tesla's polyphase motor/generators and Einstein's E=mc^2  were just dreaming and wank then they made it real and so will we. So please fasten your seat belt and ensure your tray is in the upright position because this ride you call your life is going to get a little bumpy in the near future.


AC




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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2017, 07:27:52 AM »
Ed wrote his book before most of us were born.
Scientists today still don't understand it.
But there are things science has learned from it
And those things don't fit into our current model.
I use the term magnetic current to describe the work
Of Ed.
When you break the PMH, two beams (maybe waves)
are released. 180-degrees out of phase and travel linearly
Into infinity. And seem to go through anything that is not
Ferrous, or magnetic.
Copper, aluminum, silver, gold and certain platinum group metals
Can experience electric induction in the path of these emissions


Ed teaches us how to establish these currents through the air
In a permanent and intentional manner.
Like switching it on and off.
But these are much more than "feelings"


Let's take your coils for example. Or a physical structure of some sort
That represents a 3-d model of your images.
Now if these things can be made to emit this "energy"
It stands to reason that a similar device or an inverted one?
Could receive the "energy".


Have you experimented with using one thing in conjunction
With a second thing to try and capture the "energy"?


 

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