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Magnethos

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Reflectance-blocking circuits
« on: June 18, 2015, 04:34:53 PM »
I open this thread to share ideas and investigate about reflectance-blocking circuits.

To start, we first need to understand what is reflectance and how it affects to the performance of the circuit. Well, reflectance is the phenomena that happens when you connect a load into an AC circuit (in DC also happens, but we're interested in AC). As we know, load in the output means that the load is consuming power from the input. This is caused because the load connected in the output affects the input. This is due to the "reflectance" of the conventional circuits. An easy way to see this is to measure the power factor and the watts with and without the load connected in the output. In each case (load connected and no connected load) we'll see how PF and watt consumption changes.

I've been hearing some time in the net that is possible to block that communication between the input and the output by blocking the reflectance. This means that with/without load connected in the output, all the time the lectures (PF and watts) will be the same. So you would be able to connect a load in the output without affecting the input.

For some people this was first known by the Thane Heins bitoroid transformer. That transformer is based on 'reflectance blockage', so the output and the input don't share birirectional communication (input to output  ;  output to input), because the share only a unidirectional communication, from the input to the output. So anything that you connect in the output won't communicate to the input.

Reading about Heins and Bank, I came with a possible idea that I want to share with you. Maybe someone will think about any modification of this circuit of maybe this information will be useful as I show it.

Well, the idea came (as you know) while seeing Heins (Thane Heins bitoroid transformer) and Bank (Michael Bank single wire energy transmission). Also another ideas were useful, but the most important ones were these two. The concept is about blocking reverse communication of the circuit (reverse = output to input), using a 'magnetic diode'. In the attached Picture1, we can see that we need a transmitter circuit and a receiver circuit. Between those circuits, we'll have a single wire energy line. Of course, we'll need to engineer that single-wire line. As we know we've to block the reverse communication of the circuit. The reverse communication is the one that happens when a load is connected to the output and the output communicates with the input.

Based on the work of Heins, it could be possible to block the back magnetomotive force, BMMF, using a saturated core (rod) to prevent that the BMMF reaches the input, at the same time that we've to allow the communication from the input to the output. The FMMF, forward magnetomotive force, is the energy that runs the circuit. Withouth FMMF it won't be possible to obtain energy at the output.

In the second picture you can see the whole idea more easily.

Magnethos

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Re: Reflectance-blocking circuits
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 04:52:34 PM »
As we can see in these pictures, I've introduced the 'magnetic diode' to block the BMMF generated in the output when the load is connected.

The magnetic diode could be a ferrite rod with a coil wired around the rod, controlled by a circuit to add more or less magnetic field until you find a point where the BMMF cannot pass through because the rod is completely saturated and the energy gets blocked in the output part without affecting the input.

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Re: Reflectance-blocking circuits
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 04:58:29 PM »
@Magnethos:


Nice write-up! I like where you are going with this.


A minor point: In the last paragraph on your <CONVENTIONAL M.BANK METHOD> Picture, don't you mean to say "When the Load is connected to the ouput, it creates a BMMF. . ." ?


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Magnethos

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Re: Reflectance-blocking circuits
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 05:19:06 PM »
Here you've the picture describing a little about the 'magnetic diode'. It would be basically an electromagnet where you can tune the magnetic field generated by the electromagnet until a point where the saturation point is reached by the sum of:
FMMF + external magnetic field generated by the electromagnet, so the BMMF cannot travel back to the source (input).

Magnethos

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Re: Reflectance-blocking circuits
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 05:46:52 PM »
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@Magnethos:


Nice write-up! I like where you are going with this.


A minor point: In the last paragraph on your <CONVENTIONAL M.BANK METHOD> Picture, don't you mean to say "When the Load is connected to the ouput, it creates a BMMF. . ." ?


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Yes, I mean that. But I've not used B. It was done with that intention (without using the B). Intead of writting BMMF I wrote MMF and I explain you why.

The input (power source) generate a MMF that is in forward direction and it's called FMMF.
The output (load) when connected, it generates a MMF that is backward and it's called BMMF.
As you can see, the input and the output generates magneto motive forces MMF. The difference in those MMF is the direction. FMMF goes from the input to the output. BMMF goes from the output to the input.

If you've seen 'Electric motor secrets' DVD by Peter Lindemann you'll know what I'm talking about FMMF and BMMF and the energy destruction.

Red_Sunset

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Re: Reflectance-blocking circuits
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 07:50:18 AM »
I open this thread to share ideas and investigate about reflectance-blocking circuits.
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Hi Magnethos,

I think you have started a worthwhile topic that addresses the core issue that is central to energy conversion systems.   Let me write a short contribution in the limited time I have now, I can expand more on a later time.
I think Heins Thane made a great attempt in trying to neutralize the feedback mechanism but it also highlites the multi dimensional aspects difficulties of a mechanism like that.  It is worthwhile to understand these different aspects clearly, before attempting the next generation "Heins Thanes"  transformer

In electromagnetics, the mutual inductance (reflectance) as an extension of self inductance is the mechanism that regulates the energy flow.  Electromagnetic energy generation is based on field destruction or motion neutralization, or a combination of both.   The actions to break/neutralize any of these flows of symmetry requires energy input, a type of catch 22.  The magic to find is a process that requires less or is inherent in the make-up of the device.

In this pursuit I see the following focus points that needs a solution (possibly more items can be added, some solutions are already seen)
1..  Blocking the BMMF in the path of the FMMF
2..  Neutralizing the secondary MMF  (to neutralize selfinduction)
3..  Space separation  (these processes take place in the same place at the same time)
4..  Minimal energy input for any of the above actions

What makes interesting study is the similarity & difference  between a solid state (transformer)  vs. mechanical motion (generator) power generation process.

Red-Sunset

« Last Edit: June 19, 2015, 10:31:31 AM by Red_Sunset »

Magnethos

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Re: Reflectance-blocking circuits
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2015, 02:36:41 PM »
Hi Magnethos,

I think you have started a worthwhile topic that addresses the core issue that is central to energy conversion systems.   Let me write a short contribution in the limited time I have now, I can expand more on a later time.
I think Heins Thane made a great attempt in trying to neutralize the feedback mechanism but it also highlites the multi dimensional aspects difficulties of a mechanism like that.  It is worthwhile to understand these different aspects clearly, before attempting the next generation "Heins Thanes"  transformer

In electromagnetics, the mutual inductance (reflectance) as an extension of self inductance is the mechanism that regulates the energy flow.  Electromagnetic energy generation is based on field destruction or motion neutralization, or a combination of both.   The actions to break/neutralize any of these flows of symmetry requires energy input, a type of catch 22.  The magic to find is a process that requires less or is inherent in the make-up of the device.

In this pursuit I see the following focus points that needs a solution (possibly more items can be added, some solutions are already seen)
1..  Blocking the BMMF in the path of the FMMF
2..  Neutralizing the secondary MMF  (to neutralize selfinduction)
3..  Space separation  (these processes take place in the same place at the same time)
4..  Minimal energy input for any of the above actions

What makes interesting study is the similarity & difference  between a solid state (transformer)  vs. mechanical motion (generator) power generation process.

Red-Sunset

Hi Red-Sunset,

I'm asking to myself this question for some time. In the net anyone can find some information that tells that is possible to extract real energy from the reactive energy. I mean, to feed the system with reactive energy without modifying the power factor of the power source when the load is connected in the output. In conventional circuits when you connect the load in the output, the power factor of the input changes. So in conventional circuits there is a 'communication' between the output and the input and this communication is bidirectional (input to output  ;  output to input). This communication is based on magnetomotive forces.

Anyone knows that reactive power can be extracted from a power source and that energy is wattless. Extracting real energy (watt energy) from the source is the main cause of power source depletion (in the case of a battery), but the most important key is that it seems that is possible to extract reactive power from the power source and this energy can be transformed to real power without affecting the power source. It will be a kind of 'unidirectional transformer'. This unidirectional transformer would be a transformer that is feed with reactive power in the input and consumes real power at the output. It seems that as long as you don't extract real energy from the power source, the power source can bring big amounts of reactive power to the circuit. Some people will say that it's possible to bring 'infinite' amounts of reactive power, but I don't think so. The thing I think is that there is a small advantage of feeding the system with reactive power compared with real power. Of course, the output needs to use real power to perform work. And this real power seems that is possible to obtain from reactive power without affecting the power source. Thane Heins is one person that shown some evidence about this, and there are other people that also explained similar phenomenons.

In the focus points you suggest, I think point #1 is quite important. The others are also important, but for some reason I will select the first point. In the mechanism I've explained, the theory is about blocking the BMMF to prevent that BMMF reaches the power source. BMMF would be generated, and it will be trapped in the receiver part of the circuit. As long as the BMMF doesn't communicate the power source, it can be generated BMMF. The key is to block the contact of the BMMF to the source of energy. Other people have suggested about the use of bucking coils to get a similar effect (maybe this will be more related with point 2).

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What makes interesting study is the similarity & difference  between a solid state (transformer)  vs. mechanical motion (generator) power generation process.
A DVD I recommend is 'Electric motor secrets' of P.Lindemann. He explains about why the generator he explains is far more efficient than classical ones.

Also, some electrostatic generators I think they can be tagged into this category. When the load is connected in the output, no change is seen in the input. There is one motor called Kundel Motor, where it can be possible to see this effect. The output doesn't affects the input.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC50BPyx6AA