Author Topic: Just an Observation from a new member (Read 24127 times)

ramset · « **Reply #45 on:** December 25, 2014, 06:16:24 PM »

Mark E
where do you get all this drama, "hope" "believers" etc etc ad nauseum.....
how does this
Chet
quote
We have found a very effective way to investigate claims cut short wasted time and minimize scamming , to offer a venue to the experimenter/claimant at no cost whatsoever and by qualified persons with certified equipment.

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what part of the above sounds like your Hope and dreams nonsense ......

sigh

In my Family we would typically go from "feats of strength" to "the Landing of blows"
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and with that a quick topic change...

I was just talking to my Kid brother about how I thought Santa Bringing his Kids a
bow and arrow for Christmas may not be the wisest gift ,and reminded him of the time we shot it up into the sky to see how far up it would go ,and then when it disappeared from sight ,stood in abject terror of it coming down and killing us....
we laughed

he reminded me of another incident with high flying projectiles ...my other kid Brother is a bit Like TK
he Builds to the extreme and stretches the boundaries ,wicked good build skills..
Well he built a Gigundo pointy long thin rocket , with all the bells and whistles ..

launched it towards the heavens 2000 ft or more ..completely out of site
Yes...the shoot system failed

they stood around and the same abject terror took over ,all running for the hills
Except the Builder [my Brother] he stood his ground ... staring towards the heavens waiting for his pointy projectile to come home...
as he stood mouth agape staring skyward ..
it pierced his sneaker and parted his toes [big toe and next]

The quote was ;IT PINNED HIS FOOT TO THE GROUND !!

we laughed again.....

Be careful out there with your gifts today
Don't shoot your eye out....

Merry Christmas

Chet
ps
@MH
I apologize for that paper tiger shadow boxing stuff,I won't be posting that anymore [or similar]
I know you are "doing you" and trying to help...and helping ...
I just like to cut to the chase and put it on the table...
quicker and more effective ,and much more definitive, as you point out all the ongoing unanswered devices/claims out there ..
but yes takes a much bigger commitment .

MarkE · « **Reply #46 on:** December 25, 2014, 06:29:13 PM »

Quote from: ramset on December 25, 2014, 06:16:24 PM

Mark E
where do you get all this drama, "hope" "believers" etc etc ad nauseum.....
how does this
Chet
quote
We have found a very effective way to investigate claims cut short wasted time and minimize scamming , to offer a venue to the experimenter/claimant at no cost whatsoever and by qualified persons with certified equipment.

I ask again, if your methods are effective and time efficient then why is it that you still have not resolved that GDS is so much malarky? Please provide a specific example where these methods of your group have proven to be effective and time efficient.

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what part of the above sounds like your Hope and dreams nonsense ......

sigh

In my Family we would typically go from "feats of strength" to "the Landing of blows"
=====================
and with that a quick topic change...

I was just talking to my Kid brother about how I thought Santa Bringing his Kids a
bow and arrow for Christmas may not be the wisest gift ,and reminded him of the time we shot it up into the sky to see how far up it would go ,and then when it disappeared from sight ,stood in abject terror of it coming down and killing us....
we laughed

he reminded me of another incident with high flying projectiles ...my other kid Brother is a bit Like TK
he Builds to the extreme and stretches the boundaries
Well he built a Gigundo pointy long thin rocket , with all the bells and whistles ..

launched it towards the heavens 2000 ft or more ..completely out of site
Yes...the shoot system failed

they stood around and the same abject terror took over ,all running for the hills
Except the Builder [my Brother] he stood his ground ... staring towards the heavens waiting for his pointy projectile to come home...
as he stood mouth agape staring skyward ..
it pierced his sneaker and parted his toes [big toe and next]

The quote was ;IT PINNED HIS FOOT TO THE GROUND !!

we laughed again.....

Be careful out there with your gifts today
Don't shoot your eye out....

Merry Christmas

Chet

TinselKoala · « **Reply #47 on:** December 25, 2014, 06:55:34 PM »

@MarkE: You and I both know that the reason Chet's methodology has not yet revealed anything concrete about GDS is only that the claimant, Potter, refuses to cooperate. This is the general case in such matters, as you know. Chet has made the offer to examine the claims scientifically and I believe that he and his consultants could do it to our satisfaction. All that is necessary is Potter's cooperation in the matter. It is our conjecture (supported by tons of evidence from past cases) that this cooperation will never actually materialize, because we understand that his claims are implausible in the extreme. Nay, they are impossible, really. This is not Chet's fault or responsibility. It is his time and money to spend, or waste, as he chooses, and I for one applaud his efforts, fruitless though they may turn out to be.

However, the kind of organization that Chet offers, already exists in multiple instances. Less than one hour's drive from Potter's alleged Oshawa location, and on the same side of the Canadian border, there exists just such a laboratory, fully equipped and eager to perform such testing, free of charge to the claimant and with full NDA, intellectual property protection, etc. Had Potter actually been willing to obtain a real scientific evaluation of his claims, he could simply have taken one of the "about ten" units he has claimed to have operational, over to this lab, dropped it off, and within three days a comprehensive report would be produced that would dispel all doubt about Potter and his claims.

ramset · « **Reply #48 on:** December 25, 2014, 07:01:13 PM »

Mark E
has been going on for years..
some here participate ,others have never read these pages[thankfully]

MH points out all the never ending ongoing nonsense that has a life all its own with unanswered
OU claims and ongoing sagas..

works for you but not for me..[or others]

I found I could not with clear conscience waste the time and resources of those
I have grown to Love and respect [the replicators,scientists and engineers].

So we have a very tight control for this ,it is most effective and saves much resource and wasted time.

so we grow this successful model and have tried a few dry runs here...

sorry if you take no part,and also sorry if you feel the need to be answered to...

have a good Holiday

Chet
PS
I see Tinsel posted whilst I was pounding the keys..
TK
It is OUR dream to grow this model to a world wide footprint ,thankyou for adding a resource
[and yours too]
and to be clear recent developments in my life have hindered my followup with Mr.Potter
I will next week!!

Floor · « **Reply #49 on:** December 25, 2014, 09:18:33 PM »

Boy ! there's a lot to respond to in these few pages.

Do think tanks, governments and giant corporations, cruse sites like this one ?
Are you kidding me !!! Why not ?

I think that I have encountered individuals trolling for ideas. Some of whom I though of as being
rather foul, maybe even loathsome or creepy, sort of like worms. But hey ! I guess some people
exalt in being creepy ?

They spend milions on accountig, or lobbying, just to save a fraction of a percent on taxes, (and reap billions in return).
Why not hire a few creeps ?

Some of you just aren't looking at this in the scale it actually exists upon.

Have you ever considered how many govs. and corps. there are that can lay down a million dollars like it was LESS THAN
pocket change is to you or I ?

Do they some times lie, cheat, murder, supress information or propagate things like war for profit ?

duh! yah, but only da bad guys ?

Do these kinds of institutions use shills ? Historically, undeniably, emphatically yes.

Do they use them here ? I'm doubting it.

Choseing a side at Armageddon is a fools chore !

...........................

Yes I've seen some really bad behavior on this forum. And definitly MOST of it from some of the big posters.

The FORUM WOULD DEFINITLY BENIFIT from those particular people, beginning to practice the art of retraction and appology.

I have not lost all respect for them. But it does show a certain lack of knowedge and intellegence on their parts.

I know how easy it is to fall into that sort of thing in an evironment like a forum, even for my self .

The people who habitually practice such lack of restraint, are in my opinion as bad as those, other wise dillusional people,
who habitually make unsubstanctiated claims, and for very similar reasons.

Think about this

And by the way, I most definitly find SOME of the ideas behind unsubstanciated claims to be the most valuable,
thought provoking, insightful and even ingenious parts of the entire forum.

Think about this too.

It's difficult to change a habit, but I for one, sure wish they would try.

.......................................

Is there nothing to be found of value on this forum ?

No O.U. ? What ever O.U. is supposed to mean.

I think O.U. is a kind of target, some thing to shoot at.

Fom one side or the other.

Would I rather be trying to hit a target or trying to shoot it down so that others can shoot at it ?

Who's in charge here any way ? humor !!!

merry christmas
floor

Floor · « **Reply #50 on:** December 25, 2014, 10:13:06 PM »

sorry...

that's "CAN'T shoot at it"

tinman · « **Reply #51 on:** December 26, 2014, 01:19:14 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 25, 2014, 09:53:26 AM

Good post Tinman, I agree.

Merry Christmas.

Bill

Thanks Bill,and merry xmas to you as well.

Brad

dieter · « **Reply #52 on:** December 26, 2014, 03:48:39 AM »

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They should instead follow the example of dieter and Madeo and post on-topic personal attacks, incoherent, self-debunking rants and conspiracy theories.

(Peace.)

I think the use of the term "conspiracy theories" is expressing a lot. Some people make fun of the persecuted, the stalked, the killed, by calling them crackpots.

But fact is, one is eighter very stupid and can't see what's going on in terms of a global conspiracy, or he pretends that there is no such thing because he is a part of it, or he knows it is true and may or may not openly speak about it.

It is not the governent, it is them who took over the government, as well as the cartells, including health,, food, energy, military and media that they control.

The good people out there who are not part of the conspiracy know that I speak the truth because they sense the lies whenever they open a newspaper.

Bush my ass. That's a hard fact. It's a sect. Not just coincedently some Trolls, but organised and highly motivated gang stalking. I don't know how they communicate, but it is very much like in the movie "They live" by John Carpender. Only this is for real.

If you think I personally insulted people because I mentioned that they personally insulted people, as if weight problems are proof for fraud, then it is you who selfdebunked himself very profoundly and coherently and what not.

Peace for those who deserve it.

Floor · « **Reply #53 on:** December 26, 2014, 11:08:08 PM »

Thanks Dieter

I really apreciate your point of view.
But one can not beat the devil at his own game, epsecially in his own back yard.
Especcially Not, by sinking to his level.

Some people are going to see things this way "It's my job to make these people see the truth, and understand these things"

Understand, you and I are didn't come here to make this same mistake our selves, did we ?

Well, maybe once in a while, Ha Ha

Paece brother
and thanks for all your integrity and good work

floor

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 27, 2014, 03:17:20 AM »

Quote from: dieter on December 26, 2014, 03:48:39 AM

It is not the governent, it is them who took over the government, as well as the cartells, including health,, food, energy, military and media that they control.

Now this I agree with 100%.

Bill

markdansie · « **Reply #55 on:** December 27, 2014, 04:30:47 AM »

Quote from: clixbits on December 23, 2014, 04:27:41 AM

As the subject says this is just an observation from a new member.
Whilst browsing through some of the posts in the forums I keep seeing certain people (I won't mention any names) that are VERY QUICK to dispel or attempt to disprove or ridicule various claims made.
Don't for one instant think that there aren't people here (paid shills) in the forums whose job it is to dispel, divide, disprove or ridicule.
Forums like this one and others are touching on VERY sensitive issues, that deal with global power & control mechanisms.
Those in power want to keep themselves in those positions and will do just about anything to maintain the current paradigms.

I always crack up laughing when I see posts like these. I wish you could have accompanied me on my 100 of so flights over the last few years visiting over 15 countries testing and evaluating some of these free energy claims.
Here is what happens and why no device has never came to light that can be replicated, or independently tested.
1. They do not know how to measure
2. The are delusional
3. They are con men
Many are my friends. I continue to talk to many inventors and free energy researchers who rather stay out of the forums and I respect there choices. About 85% to 90% of the research is not on the web.
I stand by my 100% record of calling many of these devices false or misleading .
Emotive commentary like yours is really a shallow excuse the scam artists love to hide behind and fleece a few more people.
I am often accused of being many things, some you have listed. Here is the real me and what I do when not working on Energy.
http://revolution-green.com/merry-xmas-philippines/

I do respect your right to express your opinion, as you should hours. After all where would Yilditz, Hope girls, John Rohner be without us?
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #56 on:** December 27, 2014, 05:02:29 AM »

Quote from: markdansie on December 27, 2014, 04:30:47 AM

I always crack up laughing when I see posts like these. I wish you could have accompanied me on my 100 of so flights over the last few years visiting over 15 countries testing and evaluating some of these free energy claims.
Here is what happens and why no device has never came to light that can be replicated, or independently tested.
1. They do not know how to measure
2. The are delusional
3. They are con men
Many are my friends. I continue to talk to many inventors and free energy researchers who rather stay out of the forums and I respect there choices. About 85% to 90% of the research is not on the web.
I stand by my 100% record of calling many of these devices false or misleading .
Emotive commentary like yours is really a shallow excuse the scam artists love to hide behind and fleece a few more people.
I am often accused of being many things, some you have listed. Here is the real me and what I do when not working on Energy.
http://revolution-green.com/merry-xmas-philippines/

I do respect your right to express your opinion, as you should hours. After all where would Yilditz, Hope girls, John Rohner be without us?
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

Way to go Mark, you really are a decent person. All of us that bitch about our circumstances now and again, do not realize just how much we really have.

A belated Merry Christmas to you Sir.

Bill

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2014, 07:07:33 AM »

As always, very interesting discussion with a
diverse and very broad range of opinions.

True, water itself is not a fuel; but Water Gas
is.

The Judge in the Stanley Meyer case could not
make any determination regarding the technical
viability of what Stan had developed, however,
he could and did make a determination regarding
Stan's business practices. What Stan was attempting
for financial gain was fraudulent. Stan, unfortunately,
fell victim to The Love of Money.

The U.S. Military Services are not directly engaged in
developmental research seeking new and unorthodox
technologies but they do maintain control over the
funding and security of such programs which are
carried out by 'contractors.' These programs are
typically 'Black' meaning that they are extremely
highly classified and opaque. Deep Underground.
Controlled and managed by the 'invisible' U.S.
Government.

The U.S. Military Services do engage in application
research alongside contractors which is intended to
exploit new technologies for purposes of warfare.
This research is typically somewhat transparent in
that it is coordinated and approved by Congress.
Although highly classified these programs are
necessarily within the realm of the 'visible' U.S.
Government.

At the present time the only form of Free Energy
which is abundant it its existence is that of
Money Creation and Debt Magnified by Usury.
The 'unaccountable to anyone' Federal Reserve
System rakes in billions in 'free energy' each day.

The ongoing 'Ukraine Operation' (which is in reality
an attack on Russia) is all about sustaining hegemony
and the unhindered domination of World Financial
Operations in U.S. Petro-Dollars.

Collapse is nearer than we may wish to believe.

MarkE · « **Reply #58 on:** December 28, 2014, 07:31:37 AM »

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 28, 2014, 07:07:33 AM

As always, very interesting discussion with a
diverse and very broad range of opinions.

True, water itself is not a fuel; but Water Gas
is.

Unfortunately "Water Gas" is not water. It is a mixture O₂ and H₂ gasses that can react, giving up energy and producing water as the end product.

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The Judge in the Stanley Meyer case could not
make any determination regarding the technical
viability of what Stan had developed, however,
he could and did make a determination regarding
Stan's business practices. What Stan was attempting
for financial gain was fraudulent. Stan, unfortunately,
fell victim to The Love of Money.

Stan Meyer could and did commit fraud as the judge found in the practice of his "water fuel" business. Over 15 years later no one can reproduce the miracle that Stan Meyer the fraud claimed. Hello???

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The U.S. Military Services are not directly engaged in
developmental research seeking new and unorthodox
technologies but they do maintain control over the
funding and security of such programs which are
carried out by 'contractors.'

The MIC has lots of private contractors. The armed forces also have labs of their own. The Air Force Research Lab is but one example.

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These programs are
typically 'Black' meaning that they are extremely
highly classified and opaque. Deep Underground.
Controlled and managed by the 'invisible' U.S.
Government.

While there are plenty of classified programs, the government does conduct research into unproven areas. Multiple agencies have and continue to for example research LENR/LANR/cold-fusion.

Quote

The U.S. Military Services do engage in application
research alongside contractors which is intended to
exploit new technologies for purposes of warfare.
This research is typically somewhat transparent in
that it is coordinated and approved by Congress.
Although highly classified these programs are
necessarily within the realm of the 'visible' U.S.
Government.

At the present time the only form of Free Energy
which is abundant it its existence is that of
Money Creation and Debt Magnified by Usury.
The 'unaccountable to anyone' Federal Reserve
System rakes in billions in 'free energy' each day.

The Fed discount window has been handing out around $400 billion of free money to the big banks each year since 2009. Two trillion later, the banks are back to their private risk with public backing. After the new Congress comes in this will get much worse and much riskier.

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The ongoing 'Ukraine Operation' (which is in reality
an attack on Russia) is all about sustaining hegemony
and the unhindered domination of World Financial
Operations in U.S. Petro-Dollars.

Unfortunately, you have oversimplified things. Putin is very keen on reconstituting the old Soviet Union. Crimea was overrun by the Russians, not NATO. Russia is in Eastern Ukraine, not NATO. Putin as a provocateur doesn't leave the USA with clean hands, particularly in the last 30 years in the Middle East.

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Collapse is nearer than we may wish to believe.

The scary situations are: The extremely dangerous military players are the complete nut cases Netanyahu and Putin. The threat to the global economy are the big banks which have effectively bought themselves the major Western governments. The dangerous games being played could cause a global economic catastrophe far worse than 2008.

orbut 3000 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2014, 07:41:32 AM »

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The extremely dangerous military players are the complete nut cases Netanyahu and Putin.

Putin is not crazy all by himself. He needs his crazy european and transatlantic partners to dance. I think Russia should seek to intensify their military and economic relationship with Cuba and watch what happens then.

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