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Author Topic: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos  (Read 1606343 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2235 on: January 02, 2015, 08:46:13 PM »
You really stepped into it that time, Kenny baby, and the proof is there for everyone to see.
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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2236 on: January 02, 2015, 08:47:32 PM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 02, 2015, 08:43:06 PM
Have you ever asked yourself what those patterns would look like if the Ferrocell were square or triangular?

A good experimentalist would...



thats already been done actually, using 4 ferrocells as a partial BOX and seeing the magnet under it.



The hypotrochoid and whole HYPERBOLOID is present and CAN ONLY BE FORMED one way........  ONLY ONE WAY.
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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2237 on: January 02, 2015, 08:50:35 PM »
Quote from: TinselKoala on January 02, 2015, 08:43:24 PM

So your claim is that "the equation for the loss of inertia is 4.236067977...."

Which is, of course, complete nonsense.



I like baseless claims, they fling themselves into the trash all on their own.



However that expression takes 200 pages to explain, and you couldnt get past page 1.

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picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2238 on: January 02, 2015, 08:50:55 PM »
Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on January 02, 2015, 08:47:32 PM


thats already been done actually, using 4 ferrocells as a partial BOX and seeing the magnet under it.



The hypotrochoid and whole HYPERBOLOID is present and CAN ONLY BE FORMED one way........  ONLY ONE WAY.


Four "round" Ferrocells?
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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2239 on: January 02, 2015, 08:54:00 PM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 02, 2015, 08:43:06 PM
Yep, that's definitely a very pretty light show with stationary patterns



A hypotrochoid 'pattern' can ONLY BE PRODUCED ONE WAY



It is impossible for anyone on earth to extrapolate and draw a hypotrochoid pattern as a STATIONARY PROJECTION


Simplex geometry is a stranger in your brain.



AMAZING IDIOCY




convergent and divergent pressure mediation is clear and obvious,...........(unless youre a dufus)
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minnie

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2240 on: January 02, 2015, 08:54:16 PM »



  TA,
      is it really true you manually turn something in some of the ferrocell pics?
                 John.
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picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2241 on: January 02, 2015, 08:56:32 PM »
Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on January 02, 2015, 08:54:00 PM


A hypotrochoid 'pattern' can ONLY BE PRODUCED ONE WAY



It is impossible for anyone on earth to extrapolate and draw a hypotrochoid pattern as a STATIONARY PROJECTION


Simplex geometry is a stranger in your brain.



AMAZING IDIOCY

Which is exactly why a good experimentalist would test a Ferrocell with a non-circular geometry before drawing any conclusions based on the observations made with a circular Ferrocell. 

And again, your patterns sure look stationary (as opposed to spinning as per Qwert's question)...
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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2242 on: January 02, 2015, 08:57:35 PM »
Quote from: minnie on January 02, 2015, 08:54:16 PM


  TA,
      is it really true you manually turn something in some of the ferrocell pics?
                 John.


manually turn the magnet UNDER the ferrocell?   YES, sometimes.



IN THE PICTURES, NO


the videos.......YES





if however you want a VIDEO TONIGHT of me just setting it on top, or on bottom, ill do that!!!!


the same image forms immediately ON ITS OWN  ;D
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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2243 on: January 02, 2015, 08:58:32 PM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 02, 2015, 08:56:32 PM
Which is exactly why a good experimentalist would test a Ferrocell with a non-circular geometry before drawing any conclusions based on the observations made with a circular




HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!!   ;D ;D ;D


thats already been done,  however by the inventor using SQUARE SLIDES of glass!!!
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picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2244 on: January 02, 2015, 09:00:02 PM »
Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on January 02, 2015, 08:58:32 PM



HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!!   ;D ;D ;D


thats already been done,  however by the inventor using SQUARE SLIDES of glass!!!

So, where are the images produced using a square Ferrocell?
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MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2245 on: January 02, 2015, 09:00:50 PM »
Okay, so is the ferrocell just a suspension of very tiny long and thin magnetic particles in a viscous goop?  And then all of the pretty lines are from particles lined up to reflect the light?  Or perhaps they are diffraction grating effects?  Or a combination of both?

I find it intriguing with all of the "Spirograph" images through and can't explain them.  It just feels like they are too elaborate or something.

It would seem to be similar to magnetic viewing film except for all of the pretty patterns.  And of course if you look at clips from Jason Verbelli when he plays with magnetic viewing film, he hasn't a clue what he is doing or what the patterns he sees actually mean.  What's more shocking is that he does not ask himself if he understands what he is seeing.

No matter what, I think that we would agree that Kenny is being thrown off onto a wild goose chase because he too doesn't understand what he is looking at and he has invented a "universe" to fit in with what he sees.

It's a long and winding garden path that has led into a garden maze.  I'm afraid that Kenny is stuck in the maze but he is happy to be stuck in the maze.

MileHigh
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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2246 on: January 02, 2015, 09:06:58 PM »
Quote from: MileHigh on January 02, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
Okay, so is the ferrocell just a suspension of very tiny long and thin magnetic particles in a viscous goop?

Yes and no.  Just tiny particles suspended in fluid, i.e., ferrofluid.  A thin layer of the ferrofluid is contained between two glass discs with minimal spacing between them.  Illumination is via a ring of LED's positioned about the periphery of the glass discs.

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  And then all of the pretty lines are from particles lined up to reflect the light?  Or perhaps they are diffraction grating effects?  Or a combination of both?

Both

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I find it intriguing with all of the "Spirograph" images through and can't explain them.  It just feels like they are too elaborate or something.

Pretty cool aren't they!

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It would seem to be similar to magnetic viewing film except for all of the pretty patterns.  And of course if you look at clips from Jason Verbelli when he plays with magnetic viewing film, he hasn't a clue what he is doing or what the patterns he sees actually mean.  What's more shocking is that he does not ask himself if he understands what he is seeing.

No matter what, I think that we would agree that Kenny is being thrown off onto a wild goose chase because he too doesn't understand what he is looking at and he has invented a "universe" to fit in with what he sees.

It's a long and winding garden path that has led into a garden maze.  I'm afraid that Kenny is stuck in the maze but he is happy to be stuck in the maze.

MileHigh

I agree...

PW
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MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2247 on: January 02, 2015, 09:36:46 PM »
PW:

Thanks for the explanations.  When you see bulk ferrofluid in action it looks like an oily goop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvar-4M6VA

It certainly makes for fascinating kinetic sculptures.

So if I understand the ferrofluid itself is magnetic and composed of long and thin magnetic particles.  I am assuming that when the layer of ferrofluid is thin enough then you can see through it to make ferrocells.

Now what happened to all the excitement in the 80s about magnetic bubble memory?  lol

MileHigh
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MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2248 on: January 02, 2015, 09:39:03 PM »
These "Sixty Symbols" clips are are a series of great educational clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hHbgAAnjc

P.S.:  Okay from the clip I want to add a clarification (for myself).  The ferrofluid is paramagnetic.   So it only lines up when it is in the presence of an external magnetic field.  Take the magnetic field away and you are basically back to goop.  Add an external magnetic field and then you have the little particles in the ferrofluid aligning themselves with the external magnetic field producing all of the pretty reflection and diffraction patterns.
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picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #2249 on: January 02, 2015, 09:50:09 PM »
Quote from: MileHigh on January 02, 2015, 09:36:46 PM
PW:

Thanks for the explanations.  When you see bulk ferrofluid in action it looks like an oily goop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvar-4M6VA

It certainly makes for fascinating kinetic sculptures.

So if I understand the ferrofluid itself is magnetic and composed of long and thin magnetic particles.  I am assuming that when the layer of ferrofluid is thin enough then you can see through it to make ferrocells.

Now what happened to all the excitement in the 80s about magnetic bubble memory?  lol

MileHigh

I suppose a ferrofluid could be formulated using particles of various shapes,  but typically the particles used are sub-micron spheroids or an approximation thereof.  The particles are typically coated with a surfactant to ensure wetting and prevent clumping within the fluid.  I have some very old ferrofluid (from the 70's) that has turned into a solid clump in the bottom of the vial.  Modern formulations are much better.  As occurs with iron filings on paper, the ferrofluid particles align with the field, and as they themselves become magnetic, they also orient and repel themselves from neighboring particles.  Very cool patterns can be generated when playing with ferrofluid.   

And yes, the layer of ferrofluid used in the Ferrocell is thin enough to be somewhat transparent. 

However, I do not understand why TK thinks that the magnet must be in motion to produce the patterns presented.

PW

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