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markdansie

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Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« on: March 30, 2014, 12:43:53 PM »
The following gives a link to the development and history of this device, plus the announcement of the world relieving in London April 2013
I am sure you will form your own opinions, no need to state mine.


http://revolution-green.com/qeg-part-2/


Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 10:48:53 PM »
Mark:

So, does this mean that Sterling will get a free unit to run his house then?  I hope that he has room for it with all of those other free energy devices he has installed over there.

Bill

PS  Great job adding the post from TK.

mscoffman

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 01:27:18 AM »
This Austrian guy doesn't seem to be having any problems with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ycJ148s5lI&feature=youtu.be


The field coil in the generator is used like a step transformer as smaller voltage
on the field is used to control the larger voltage on the output. But when the
field is connected as an undriven LC resonance the larger power on the output coil induces
an even higher voltage on the field coil. Then Q voltage amplification of resonance boosts the
field voltage swings even higher as suggested by the capacitor's working voltages of 25KV.

Give me your teaming electrons yearning to be free-electrons.

Imhotep's Emergency Light - a waste of time? Someone faking a relatively complex effort?
The nameplate on the 8KV neon sign transformer showing higher power output than input. A simple transcription error?
The youtube video of a Joule Thief where the person connects multiple bare CFL's without a sufficient dimming of each?

If you don't think this WITTS device would not come close to working - you are dreaming.

Note: having something be "not recommended" and having something be "fake or fraudulent" are *not* the same things.

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TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 03:20:30 PM »
That's pretty strange... the "Vid Bid" channel was started in 2007 but has "no videos" listed:
https://www.youtube.com/user/vidbid1/videos

and of course the video showing the WITTS device has comments disabled.

MarkS, "almost running".... are you serious? At 1:26 he shows a little NE2 neon glowing? WoW!

If I showed you all the devices I've built over the years that "almost run".... apparently you head a splode, you would get so excited. Heck, I can light up SIX little neons from a AAA battery and I don't even need to make all that noise.




e2matrix

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 03:56:46 AM »
From PESN regarding the Quantum Energy Generator:

"[8:00:18 PM] Hope Moore: Yes we have a working prototype.

[8:01:02 PM] Sterling D. Allan: Thx for writing. I'll add that to the page. Can you tell me what the longest it's run for?

[8:01:06 PM | Edited 8:01:27 PM] Hope Moore: We just finished it and gave away the plans to the whole world for free. Any engineer can build one.

[8:01:48 PM] Sterling D. Allan: I was impressed with the detail in the plans, though I've not had time to digest it closely.

[8:03:52 PM] Hope Moore: The important thing to understand here is that we got it to produce raw power. And we did it in 5 months. It is now open sourced so anyone will be able to make improvements and humanity will co develop it together.

[8:05:33 PM] Sterling D. Allan: Do you know of anyone who has been able to replicate it per the plans yet? (I know you just posted them publicly, but perhaps you had earlier drafts available privately before.)

[8:07:37 PM] Hope Moore: No. We kept everything confidential until we open sourced a few days ago. We suspect that in about 3 months time QEGs will start popping up everywhere. We are now here in Taiwan in a factory with 30 students teaching them to build QEGs. In two weeks we will be in Morocco doing the same thing.

[8:08:41 PM] Sterling D. Allan: Way to go. Wishing you the best. This news certainly has created a lot of hopeful buzz.

[8:10:18 PM] Hope Moore: Our main concern is getting a simple practical free energy design into the hands of the people. So at the moment we are not focusing our energy on "proving it works". We know it works. We are focusing our energy on teaching others and giving them back the power to build these. Because of this grassroots effort, it will be unstoppable.

[8:14:10 PM] Hope Moore: We are a small family and organization with very little resources, so we do the best we can and all the attention (especially the death threats) have made me protective of my family."

Believe what you want but this sounds fairly hopeful (no pun intended).

TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 07:19:53 AM »
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[8:01:02 PM] Sterling D. Allan: Thx for writing. I'll add that to the page. Can you tell me what the longest it's run for?

[8:01:06 PM | Edited 8:01:27 PM] Hope Moore: We just finished it and gave away the plans to the whole world for free. Any engineer can build one.

Believe what you want..... but that sure doesn't sound like a responsive answer to Sterling's question.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2014, 08:53:46 PM »

The nameplate on the 8KV neon sign transformer showing higher power output than input. A simple transcription error?


Neon sign transformers are designed to be used as constant current sources.  The nameplate output voltage is the transformer's unloaded voltage.  The nameplate output current is the current the transformer will maintain when loaded.  The high voltage is required to begin ionization of the gasses but once conduction begins, the transformer reduces the voltage across the tube to whatever value is required to maintain the specified current. 

An 8kV neon sign transformer rated at 200ma. will measure close to 8kV unloaded, but that voltage will drop significantly when loaded to the nameplate current.  The transformer will not produce 8kV AT 200ma.  The neon sign transformer's output power is not greater than its input (actually it is less due to transformer losses and wiring resistance).

Fluorescent ballast transformers also have similarly high unloaded (strike) voltages and constant current ratings that if multiplied together would appear to produce greater output power than input power.  They do not.

The loaded voltage of these types of transformers multiplied by the loaded current is always in agreement with normal "underunity" operation when compared to their input due to transformer and wire resistance losses. 

Hope that helps...

PW

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2014, 09:08:30 PM »
That's pretty strange... the "Vid Bid" channel was started in 2007 but has "no videos" listed:
https://www.youtube.com/user/vidbid1/videos

and of course the video showing the WITTS device has comments disabled.

I just don't want a bunch of assholes commenting on my videos at YouTube.

Granted, it's different, but there's nothing strange about it at all.

It's an option, and I choose to exercise it.

For the most part, my videos are either private or unlisted.

If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you get over it.


TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2014, 10:37:06 PM »
I just don't want a bunch of assholes commenting on my videos at YouTube.

Granted, it's different, but there's nothing strange about it at all.

It's an option, and I choose to exercise it.

For the most part, my videos are either private or unlisted.

If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you get over it.

What I have a problem with is people who make claims without providing support for those claims in the form of actual data, checkable outside references or repeatable demonstrations.

Like you.

I also have a problem with people who promote obvious scamming schemes. And it's clear who those people are, because when they are challenged to provide support for their claims, to provide proof that they aren't fakes and scammers.... they choose to start insulting me, instead of providing the proof. Watch:



mscoffman

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2014, 09:45:51 PM »

MarkS, "almost running".... are you serious? At 1:26 he shows a little NE2 neon glowing? WoW!

If I showed you all the devices I've built over the years that "almost run".... apparently you head a splode, you would get so excited. Heck, I can light up SIX little neons from a AAA battery and I don't even need to make all that noise.

Sorry, I was referring to the WITTS design generally, to an outsider it appears as if it should come very close to self running.
We can't tell for sure without experimentation.

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But did you watch the whole above video? The first thing he does is spins his system up with an external drill motor. It has no utility

connection. So the device is self running the most of the whole video. This wasn't a true WITTS design - it's a qmogen. He isn't

showing excess energy beyond self running. Both prongs of the neon bulbs are lighting - probably close to blowing the neon bulb up;

Showing AC field resonance rather than DC energy pre-storage on the capacitors. I presuppose some of this because I don't speak

Austrian.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014, 03:31:44 AM »
Quote from: vidbid
I just don't want a bunch of assholes commenting on my videos at YouTube.

Granted, it's different, but there's nothing strange about it at all.

It's an option, and I choose to exercise it.

For the most part, my videos are either private or unlisted.

If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you get over it.

Seems perfectly fine by me.  Since no-one else has I shall
gladly second the motion.

Any perceived insult would have to be in the minds of the
guilty parties.



TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2014, 06:20:29 AM »
Seems perfectly fine by me.  Since no-one else has I shall
gladly second the motion.

Any perceived insult would have to be in the minds of the
guilty parties.

What part of "A bunch of assholes" isn't perceived as an insult in YOUR mind?

Since any individual can be blocked from commenting by the owner of a video, and since individual comments can even be removed by the video's owner, a blanket refusal to allow comments means that this video owner considers everyone who might want to comment, to be an asshole. Doesn't it?



markdansie

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2014, 06:37:19 AM »
despite prediction a few days ago of having a self running unit  in Taiwan we see no evidence of one yet.
Mark

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 06:51:25 PM »
What part of "A bunch of assholes" isn't perceived as an insult in YOUR mind?

Since any individual can be blocked from commenting by the owner of a video, and since individual comments can even be removed by the video's owner, a blanket refusal to allow comments means that this video owner considers everyone who might want to comment, to be an asshole. Doesn't it?

nope.   your logic is wrong.   firstly until a user makes a negative comment how would vidbid know they are an asshole?   secondly the comment would already be there before he could block it and unless he spends every minute of every day watching the comments it would be read by thousands potentially.   so only way is to block all comments if you don't want a few assholes ruining things. 

Jimboot

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator Part 2
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 02:02:07 AM »
Certainly the family in this story seems genuine.


Is the prevailing wisdom that they are
A) delusional?
B) That this thing will not output anything useful?
C) That they are being used?
D) Or all of the above?


Around $6K for parts to replicate is a little too much to risk to see if there is anything there. My gut says that hopegirl is not a scammer though.