A day will come Wayne when everybody knows the real story on you.  The good guys will win and make no mistake, you are the bad guy.

So you think the suppressors are the good guys? Makes sense considering your behavior.
Bad guy make free energy machine -- Bad man, bad man.....
Maybe you should down load mikes file and ask yourself a couple questions -
Such as gee how much energy is left in the system after the load is lifted, and how much does it cost to reset the system.....what could we do with this extra energy???
MH ....I am sorry in advance - you have treated a good man, machine, and team like crap..........
And if you are a good man at all - it will suck.. to be you...

     mrwayne,
                 I've got no problem at all with recycling the input. Take a flywheel,
    for instance, that recycles the power stroke of your engine.
          What about a trampoline? Jump and you can have some fun!
                             John.

Post a copy of your Nda, so here will be no more one asking  about your engineer qualification,  hide the thing that you think confidential, i see that's the only way, or you reveal one.     

good night.

Diversion...
Do you understand an NDA?
I am waiting for you to explain why we can not recycle the input......
Who actually avoids the facts?
That's right....... Trolls
Thanks

As predicted you can't find anyone with an actual technical reputation to vouch for you.  Sure Wayne, tell your silly story.  Everyone knows that no scientist would want to be associated with you, so of course they would demand you never disclose their association with your fraud.

Name a single Ph.D. and/or professional engineer who endorses your fraud.  You won't and we all know why.

Wayne You Missed It Travis

MarkE ask you a simple question, Name a single Ph.D. and/or professional engineer who endorses your fraud.  You won't and we all know why.

Did you just miss the above question,  will RE Post it in bold (save you going back and looking for it)
Name a single Ph.D. and/or professional engineer who endorses your fraud.  You won't and we all know why.
There it is simple as simple is, in plain words on the page, but we know your answer will be nothing but excuses and insults.

    Webby,
            please just explain a "real" ZED.
                                          John.

If I am to understand that you added a 0.101715694N weight then what do you think that changes behaviorally?  It does not change the fundamentally lossy behavior of the device.   What is the point?

MarkE, here is what I sent to Fletcher (and some others) last Friday.  Just to be clear:  The full cycle I am considering is State 1 -> State 2 -> State 3 -> State 1.

Quote (from previous e-mails)

I modified it to include a Mass for Riser 3 (the outer riser) so that the system would NOT lift from State 1 to State 1X.  I marked this minimal change and all locations needed for how it integrates into the other calculations by highlighting the first row of my additions with yellow.  Also, I added that first blank row as I prefer spreadsheets not to start without blank boarders (just me being me).  And I removed the annoying graphics since they are not needed.  And changed the time constant for the spillway from 0.5 sec to 5 seconds to make that process more "Ideal."

Energy at State 1 (ST1PrefillEnergy) is still 3.4123 mJ.
Energy add to charge the system from State 1 to State 2 (ST2_EnergyAdded) is still 2.0984 mJ.
And the total Energy at State 2 (ST2_EnergyAddedPlusSt1E) is still 5.5107mJ.

Due to the added Mass of Riser 3 the lift is now only 2.41136mm.

The new Spillway Energy that could be collected (Spill_water_energy) is 1.6510mJ.
The Work performed in lifting the Riser 3 Mass (.101716N * .00241136m) is .24527mJ.
Energy at State 3 (ST3_EStoredTotal) is now 3.6145mJ.

If you sum the above 3 values you get (1.6510 + .24527 + 3.6145) = 5.5107mJ.

So it is an exact match.  All the Energy present in State 2 is accounted for in the transition to State 3.

HOWEVER, please note that there is more Energy left in the system at State 3 (3.6145mJ) than we began with at State 1 (3.4123mJ).  And it takes NO ADDITIONAL ENERGY to return from State 3 to State 1.  IE if we "pull the plug" when at State 3, the input water will naturally vent (under pressure) and the system will settle back to State 1.  The amount of excess Energy that must be vented is the difference of the Energy values at State 3 and State 1 (3.6145mJ - 3.4123mJ) = .2022mJ.

End quote.

That is what I am considering now.  I'm not sure if it means anything or not.

What a joke, just like Mark Dansie "correcting" the understanding of your alleged TEAM OF ENGINEERS.  There is no team of engineers from what I can discern, just you and perhaps a few cronies.

You ask a nonsensical question complete with zero information, no diagrams, no setup information, and you ask for an answer?  It's just as retarded as your entire alleged development team allegedly working for months and months on the project and not knowing if it's over unity or not.  That was a slip-up on your part, Wayne.  That was a line that you could feed to a bunch of rich old ladies at a retirement home and get away with it.  But not for me.  You got caught saying something totally and completely nonsensical, something that simply would be impossible to happen in real life.  You got caught.

Like I said before, you are a clown, just like John Rohner was and is a clown.  I am the one that knows about developing products and launching them into production and working with teams of hardware, software, manufacturing, test, and quality engineers.  And I can tell you from real-world experience that what you say rings hollow, it's all a fake.  Your whole narrative about developing your product comes of as a complete fake, an imaginary story by Wayne about what he thinks it should sound like.

I really hope you get swarmed and hammered by the media one day.

I can imagine the headlines:

"Self-declared developer of 'Free Energy' device convicted of fraud."

MileHigh

Wow, you took the time to write that but did not answer the question:
How much of the input into our ZED is not Consumed while producing external work??
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