@ TK

You're on a hiding to nothing mate! 

Sorry, I don't understand this post.

Mate. 

Sorry, I don't understand this post.

Mate. 

Meaning: To be faced with a situation which is pointless, as a successful outcome is impossible.

I can see that the struggle is fully on:

<<< What's important is this.  WHATEVER the cause it serves its purpose to PROVE that the UNITY BARRIERS ARE MEASURED TO HAVE BEEN BREACHED.  And further tests - required by BP - PROVE that those measurements are CORRECT.  That REALLY matters. >>>

So here we are again, possibly at the beginning of another year long drama where the end result will be Rosemary apologizing and stating that she was wrong again.

Nothing has been breached, it's all complete and utter nonsense.

Now to move onto the real reason that I am posting.

Rosemary has challenged many people to reveal their identities.  Yet she made a point about not revealing the identities of the people that looked at her 2002 circuit.  Yet we have an implicit and mutually agreed on covenant that says that we respect other people's right to protect their identities and its their choice if they want to reveal them or not.  This is a covenant that has existed throughout the history of the Internet, and goes back further than that to the BBS days, and it goes back even further than that to the CB radio days.

We all know that Aaron Murakami has been embroiled in a controversy for several weeks now.  I am no fan of Aaron at all but that's it, it doesn't go any further than that.  Aaron often refers to "disinformation agents," implying that there is active interference in free energy research by the feds, the dreaded "Men in Black."  Aaron wants to say this nonsense because it creates buzz and it's good for business.  He is lying just like any sleazy peddler of magic elixirs will tell you that his $75 bottle of sugar water with food colouring will cure all of your ailments and boost your s** life.  Many people literally believe him and some of them could be mentally imbalanced.

If you have read the free energy forums long enough, you will have seen posts by people that seem to indicate that they are mentally imbalanced.  I have read several postings by people that in all seriousness claim that they will barricade themselves in their house and fight it out to the death with federal agents if they were going to do a raid to confiscate their spinny pulse motor.  For all we know based on news stories, some of these people could have dozens or hundreds of guns and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition.

So going back to the Aaron controversy, here is a noteworthy link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_638781379&feature=iv&src_vid=UL7yMKVtNE4&v=ly21X6JQTkk

Here is the text copy and paste and I am attaching a screen capture also.

john lala 1 week ago

Any trained snipers want to take Aaron out?? would love to see his head explode

The person "John Lala" should be tracked down from his IP address with a court order and he should be charged with uttering death threats and prosecuted by his local District Attorney (if in the USA).  Six months in jail sounds about right to me.

Is your brain able to process this Rosemary?

MileHigh

it doesnt have to be a closed system @farmhand.if we go over 100% its a nail in the coffin for the thermo laws.just gota prove it.

No it won't, an open system that is gaining energy from the environment and producing more output than "we input" breaks no laws
and is common.

Any system that radiates heat, sound or vibration ect. out of the system is not a closed system.

A closed system such as the Universe itself does tend towards equilibrium. Most of the time !!!!!

However that is not always the case or the Universe would not exist as it does today.

Things get relative to the point of view but the only way to see it is on a Universal level/scale, the " Universe" meaning everything that exists, period.

None of us will ever hope to understand  the true workings of the Universe as a whole, period.

The 2nd L.of.T. simply exlains what people have observed in certain "pseudo" closed systems.

The only real closed system is the Universe itself, nothing is ever added and nothing is ever taken away, period.

The fact that energy is conserved is a good thing and works for us in many ways, learn to use it and get over the Laws thing.

Forget the laws, then use logic and common sense and you will see the same "laws" are evident.

The wording is convoluted and is not meant for the average person.

The universe is a constant in the fact that nothing is ever added, because there is nowhere for things to be added from,
and nothing is ever taken away, because there is nowhere to take anything  to.

Nothing does not exist. By definition Nothing means No thing and something that is "No thing" is non existent. [ oxymoron ]

If anybody can show me a truly closed system (other than the Universe), I would be surprised to say the least.

So come on, no fancy play on words.

Can anyone show a truly closed system "on the bench" ? Or not ?

And I mean an "actual" closed system not an "effectively" closed system, or to put it another way a "true fully closed system".

Cheers

P.S. If Rosemary or anybody else for that matter showed a setup that output more energy than was dissipated as input to it by it's operator,
Or a system showed more out than we put in then the "extra" energy can only be coming from outside the system or from the "materials" the
device is made from, which is fuel. Therefore no Laws would be broken or could be broken, Some thing cannot "come from" no thing. That is impossible.
The term "Coefficient of Performance" allows greater work output than work input by "us" the "operator" in some systems like refrigeration, no laws are broken.

There is No "O.U." or Over Unity, that involves something from nothing, there is only the utilization of energy more efficiently, over 100% efficiency is possible
and already happens commonly.

It's time these things were accepted and understood, I think.

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Even if rosemary did show over 100% efficiency she would still not be showing anything that would break any laws,
that is because any extra energy would have to come from the break down of the device itself via (transmutation or molecular dissociation) 
or from the environment or surroundings. So no Over Unity that breaks any laws.


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"Adventures of Little Miss Mosfet"  (Or mosfet, depending on Rose's spelling)

That is a very good one TK.  Thanks to you, I now have to clean some spilled beer from my keyboard but, it was worth it. I needed the laugh, thanks.

Bill

Okay, I had to take a crack at this.....

Little Miss MOSFET
She is a boss yet
Heating resistors like toast.
Along came a zipon
Who said she's a boson
And yet she continues to post.

@tk,yes but rosemary is making progress.she is now aware of the importance of a backspike.look how poynt is telling her otherwise(i dont know why).its the only mechanism that has a chance of a 2lot breach in her circuit.

truly a hit and miss enterprise @tk,the horror of such circuits is that not only must the circuit synchronize with the core,s thermodynamic window but the core,s window must synchronize with the circuit too.