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Offline tim123

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2013, 06:29:17 PM »
I've done a few sims in Phun and Physion. Phun, in particular, has a very good UI, BUT I've always felt they weren't very lifelike. Now I know why. I read about the 'Fifth Element' years ago, and just spent an hour re-educating myself on this excellent website:
http://www.halexandria.org/dward124.htm

Basically, sims don't include the *rate of change of acceleration* in the force model. Because mainstream physics doesn't. So they're mostly useless for OU purposes.

Davis & Stine's work is brilliant:
http://www.halexandria.org/dward138.htm

"The profound result of their analysis and supporting experimental/experiential evidence is that an oscillating force with a frequency comparable to the inverse of what Davis referred to as the Critical Action Time (and what is referred in Connective Physics as the time delay of The Fifth Element) can be applied without the resulting action/reaction force of Newton’s Third Law coming into play.  In effect, according to Davis, “You can get away with anything provided you don’t get caught while you’re doing it, and you leave the system immediately thereafter!"

Not sure it's relevant to your lever Webby, but thought I'd mention it.

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
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Offline tim123

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2013, 08:52:31 PM »
So you're lifting 2600g with 1740g, both moving by 4 inches?

Sounds promising... :)

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2013, 10:52:05 PM »
@Tim123,

A hi-speed room/box fan (preferably metal with metal blades) is great to experiment with.  If there is a handle on top, raise the fan slightly off the floor and rotate.  You can feel how the gyro forces redirect the fan.  Try to duplicate the motion Laithwaite shows in his patent and see if you can feel the upward force (or reduction in weight).

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« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2013, 10:52:05 PM »
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Offline tim123

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2013, 01:44:45 PM »
Hi Zoelra, thanks, that's a good tip.

I'll definitely have to build a powered, high-speed gyro, just for fun. Only a couple of weeks and I'll have a functional workshop, with doors...

Laithwaites design for a reactionless drive wasn't ideal for land-based craft, but it was a good starting point. Perhaps the effect could be used to drive a 'flying car', but it may be difficult to engineer.

The 'Dean Drive' is another - it doesn't use gyros, but eccentrics:
http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/dean_drive.htm

Neither of these, however are really gravity-powered, or OU...


Gravity Can Do Work...

The only possible ways to get gravity to do work, as far as I can tell ATM, are

 1) Use a 'gravity shield' - e.g. Podkletnov, Keeley(?).

 2) A system of varying inertial frames / reference points. This is only a Bessler-inspired conjecture TBH. I'm sad the RAR Energia seem to have hit problems.

 3) Electro-static-gravitic lift - e.g. T. Townsend Brown, 'Lifters'. I assume that this can be made OU - as it's essentially an electrostatic effect... Not sure it's strictly gravity though...


Hypothesis: How Electrostatic Drive Works

Here's a hypothesis for where the lift in (3) comes from: By biasing the natural quantum fluctuations in the material.

 - Quantum transposition is constantly happening, and a strong electrostatic field affects the probabilities of where things will 're-appear'.

 - Electrons (-ve) will tend to re-appear towards the +ve pole of the field, and atomic nuclei (+ve) the -ve.

 - So electrons, in the course of their orbit, will tend to miss out part of the orbit where they are moving toward the -ve pole of the electrostatic field. They will 'jump' to a more 'likely' orbit. So their centrifugal force will be asymetric - i.e. toward the +ve pole.

 - Electrons, could also tend to re-appear in a higher orbit (shell), which would decay - resulting in fluorescence that apparently is observed(?)

 - The nucleus, would tend to appear towards the -ve pole, and would then tend to 'spring back' to the center of the atom. If this is repeated at the top of each rebound, I think it could result in a 'Dean Drive' like effect on the atom as a whole.

Just thought I'd throw that in...

Offline telecom

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2013, 05:24:32 PM »
The website of interest is http://www.blazelabs.com/
Unfortunately he closed the yahoo group - there were many very interesting posts there.

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
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Offline CuriousChris

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2013, 12:10:14 PM »
Gabriele,
 
Sorry, but there is no doubt that the system is NOT Overunity.  There is a clear source of Energy involved.  That source is apparently Gravity. 
 


I have come late to this little party but I wanted to reference the quote above.

The source of the energy was the energy that went into raising the weight in the first place. Giving it "Potential Energy"

Sorry if this has been stated already.

Continue on...

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2013, 06:13:17 PM »
guys please have a look on this .........do you believe is this fake ?? i found it really interesting   http://via-midgard.info/sokrovennaya-tajna-zhivoj-prirody-viktor_1.htm  you have to translate with google translate it is damn interesting

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Offline mondrasek

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2013, 10:03:10 PM »
Just thought I'd add a definition:
 
PABB = Parallel Arm Balance Beam = Roberval Balance
 
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M.

Offline truesearch

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2013, 10:14:28 PM »
@webby1:


Are you willing to share any photos of your build at this time? I'd like to be able to see what you are doing.


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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2013, 10:14:28 PM »
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Offline truesearch

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2013, 01:17:14 AM »
About all I can say is "WOW"  :)


I hope you get the last .25" ironed out. . .


Thanks!


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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
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Looks to me right now that Variable Internal Geometry Levers may give that gravity thing a reason to be re-thunk :)

I'm willing to bet any amount you care to name that Newtonian Gravity describes this set up with sufficient accuracy. Any claim of a non-conservative result is pure wishful thinking.

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Re: Gravity CAN do Work
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
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