I think I must an apology toward NRamaswami. I have been thinking and I really think I have behaved poorly and used bad words with you. I am really sorry. The excitement took over me and I said things I know are not true. Surely he is the person who have been doing more test about this generator and he deserves I have behaved better. While he openly shared his info I still think that his test derived further and further from Figuera design. I really can not assure the effect of his device. I know for sure that Figuera design used low frequency and low voltage (from batteries). If he had been testing with HF is a completely different environment. I tried to persuase him to use lower frequencies, but not was fruitful. In summary I really think that Ramaswami is a good man and he had tried more than anyone to show his system and results. And I really think this. Sadly he started unfocusing with different design and he finisehd using HV and KHz in his test, completely apart from Hubbard, Figuera, Hendershoot devices which used low frequency from mechanical switching.

I am sorry for going mad and accusing him of some untrue statements. I shame on me for been so nervous. While we do not share the same patent design, I should have respected him. I could be thinking differently in the technical side but I should not have not gone further. It is a pity because he was the only who could have advance this project and share it openly in the benefits of everyone but he mixed designs and got testing a very different system. I got mad about earth points, KHz of excitation, surpassing the core saturation or using thing not supported in the patent text. Please do not mention radiation because Low frequency devices are free from radiation. I myself have been testing at low frequencies and nothing happens. And I encourage you to return to use those frequencies obtained by mechanical swithing as those used by Figuera, and stop using electronic switching at HF which did not exist in the early XX century. You are a person with hundred of ideas in your head. You are fine but need to focus into just one design and avoid mixing devices. That's the only thing I see and I may recommend you.

Sorry Ramaswami. I really feel sorry for attacking a good man. There are bad people around those forums , but I quarrelled with you, when you by heart tried to show your results. I may disagree in the technical side but the personal side is above that, and I  should have been kind in the personal level. If I have success anytime in the future you will receive a message from me with the clear specs of the device. Just for your work you deserve to share the reward.

Good luck in the OU projects and in life.

While writting this post I have stopped to think. I will take some time away from forums. I do not have much more to share. I wont answer questions. All the info I think of importance is collected in my site. Bye

Quote;"Since the sketch on the patent shows N-Y-S magnetic configuration".

AND IT IS JUST THAT, "A SKETCH" to CONVEY an IDEA or "ACTION" NOT LITERALLY as in RELUCTANCE IS an ACTION caused by a coil of wire on ferromagnetic material causing resistance to currant flow which NO ONE in this forum can apparently understand and obviously you can't understand that the drawing is just that, "A DRAWING" DUH!. and say's so in the patent and YOU STILL disregard it. so you credibility just flew out the second story window. WOW that's precious.

so tell me Bajac do you even know what part G is or can't you get past the DRAWING.? I DO and if you can't i have a 166 piece crayola set that you and Ranswami can draw with and tell each other bed time stories how you built the Figuera device.  both of you two are full of **** like no tomorrow and all you two do is flap the gums and post fairy dust. sure both of you did a lot of LEFT HANDED research......it was just that LEFT HANDED RESEARCH, NOT FIGUERA.
yes i might of been misguided at one time but i AM NOT NOW and only post provable research.

INDIAN TECH SUPPORT with two free SHAM WOW's and some rubber spoons.

Don't stoop Hanon you are right toward these LEFT HANDED RESEARCHERS.

Hanon:

I accept this apology. What is the size of the devices that you did? what is the weight of the core you used? Compared it with  the size of the devices and weigtht of the core that I did.

No harm is caused by 50 Hz current flowing through wires to power home appliances most of the time. However when this 50 or 60 Hz current is used to coil wires and make electromagnets the resulting magnetic field causes harm if we are exposed to it for a long time. I suffered only due to this. An Electromagnet is supposed to emit all types of frequencies to a certain extent and this is why Magnetic shielding is needed. You have done experiments very occassionally. You have used maximum of 1 sq mm wire. The coils are wound on small cores. The coils are moved away from the core as they turns became bigger. This is visible in the photos you uploaded.

I concede that both NN and NS can be used to make output but the Figuera pattern of a straight pole produces output only in NS poles. You need a square coil to make the NN poles to work to produce output.

It is only after much personal suffering that I realized that not doing the experiments without magnetic shielding caused the problem and even if magnetic shielding were to be present some waves can penetrate the shielding to a mild extent. This is what a Professor has told me.

If NN Poles are used as shown in Figuera patents we get even for very large magnets only 4 volts and no amperage. Only when NS poles are used for induction output comes.

By your post you are contiuning to provide misinformation that can potentially cause harm to others. You accept the fact that high intensity magnetic field at low frequencies cause harm when we are exposed to it for a prolonged period and then I will accept your apology. Not otherwise.

PS: After I made this post Hanon has pointed out that Figuera has used only 100 Volts and 1 Amp to produce output. I think that is considered a theoretical statement. Any way I have to accept the apology of Hanon.

Any one trying to replicate Figuera device must use magnetic shielding. I did not have this knowledge when I made the tests in 2013 and 2014 and suffered. Only last year I came to know that magnetic shielding is used for all electromagnet based tests by Universities. Here Universities limit students to 60 volts when they use high amperage and 200 milli amps when they use high voltage. In fact the equipment available itself is limited to 2 amps for high voltage labs and there are only very few facilities for High voltage experiments. The kind of experiments that we did would not have been allowed. I have one client who specializes in High Voltage transmission for trains and he explained that the voltage is brought down to 12 volts by large earth connections of the train compartments and so no one would know the voltage and up to 30 volts are permissible. I have tested with DC and at 27 volts you get a big shock and 12 volts we do not perceive the current.

Very high caution is needed. I thought that by increasing the size of the Cores I can reduce saturation. Unfortunately it only ended up increased magnetic field and more current to saturate the core. The results come only when core is saturated. I have received suggestions as to how the results can be achieved even at lower magnetic field strengths by competent hands but this is not disclosed in Figuera patents and so I do not want to post that information here. Secondly I have not tested them and ascertained them for a fact to post them here.

So if you want to replicate this kind of device do your utmost to take safety methods. It is not the success of the experiment that is important but the safety of the experimenter and the team. We cannot take chances when dealing with electricity.

If I have any thing to post in future, which I seriously doubt, I would post. I have no further information to share. 

Bajac:

Purpose of patent drafting is to give information and not to give information at the same time. Patent of 1908 claims patent for Principle itself and that would not be allowed. Drafting might have been deliberately intended to confuse and in that BuForn has done a good job.   

The device as disclosed in the drawings work only if NS-NS-NS is the configuration. If we use identical poles like NS-NS-SN then the voltage that comes is about 4 volts. No amperage. I have tested number of times.

The identical pole configuration works but that requires a different geometry  for Primaries and secondary and that is not shown in Figueras Patent. His 1902 Patent is quite clear that the opposite pole faces should be used so that the maximum attractive force could be utilised in the secondary. I think this has been tested by many now and so there is no million dollar question here.

https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/

http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258



23 april 1902 newspaper  article

"that the invention of electrical generator is not only mine , but that has been made in collaboration between me and the young and illustrated electrician Mr Pedro Blasberg in which I am associated to , as it relates to the technical part of the invention"

"SF has constructed a ROUGH apparatus by which in spite of its small size and defects , he  obtains a current of 550v which he utilise in his house for lighting purposes and driving a motor of 20 hp "

Dear Mr. Marathonman:

My experiments are over. Edison failed about 1086 times and I failed about 100 times.  The 1902 report says that the Figuera took the energy from the Atmosphere. Used a small device. Using the atmosphere essentially means using electrostatics or capacitors. None of the patents show any capacitor. The only thing that I have noticed is that thick insulation produces good results and once we reach saturation of the core secondary output is dependent not on primary input but on the number of turns and thickness of wires of secondary and the size of the core.

I'm afraid of sparks and afraid of capacitors. I know the sound a capacitor makes when it is suddenly discharged and the kind of spark it can make at that time. Not interested in doing these dangerous things. Moreover I have started getting some work. It is better to focus on my practice and earn some money rather than spending money on these projects. Bye Bye..

The so called 'athmosperic electricity' was used in two context. One is electrostatic field, second is ether. Later it was completly misunderstood.

Curiously Pedro Blasberg became later the director of the gas factory in the Canary Islands. He disappeared from everything related to the generator. And his career had a huge progression: from electrician to director of a gas factory. Something here stinks ....