Hi all,

I have downloaded Visual Analyzer to use my PC sound card as oscilloscope (Visual Analyzer is a freeware program, you just need to use the microphone input in the sound card http://www.sillanumsoft.org/ )

I wanted to test some AC mains voltage because I am using some transformers, 220V to 12V, (building the circuit posted weeks ago by maddann) and the AC safety system of my home fired up.

What should I do to use this program with AC mains? Should I use any kind of device to reduce the voltage and wattage? Thanks in advance

Hi all,
A new video from a guy trying to replicate the VTA. Two side inducer coils with same poles facing each other, and one intermediate induced coil. Any similarity with the 1902 patent???

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

He just presents a demo. A 3.6 watt bulb is lighting full bright with just 1 watt input

http://www.hyiq.org/Updates/Update?Name=Update%2003-11-14

Pardon me for going off our topic briefly but I wanted to know if some of you have bought the Bendini SG books. If you did, do you recommend it? Was there anything knew you learned? Before I spend money on it I would like to hear from someone impartial to the energeticforum website.
Can we relate anything in the books to our effort in this thread?

Thanks,
Bajac

Presently, only a person has sent me a PM telling about his experience with the books. It looks like the book was not what he was waiting for.
Thanks a lot to this person.


@ Ignacio,


Could you, please, post photos, diagrams, videos, etc., of the equipment you are referring to? I am afraid that most of us do not understand your concept.


Thanks for participating.




Ignacio,


Podria usted, por favor, publicar fotos, diagramas, o videos, etc., de el equipo a que se esta refiriendo? Me temo que la mayoria de nosotros no entendemos su concepto.


Gracias por participar,


Bajac

Parece que hablamos idiomas diferentes.
   El que diga yo, que los de hyiq.org den una alternativa al funcionamiento de la maquina, no es otra cosa, que, el funcionamiento tiene algo que ver, con lo que he leído en internet, del funcionamiento de los tubos fluorescentes, la función de la reactancia y el cebador, (¿una reactancia funciona igual que 7 reactancias?). Es la alternativa que más me ha convencido.
   En cuanto a la onda de alimentación, con el video de ixfes está aclarado, es una onda sinusoidal pura, que reproduce el cachivache (en aquella época empezaba la corriente alterna). Si la ca son dos cables, cuando uno está en 1 el otro está en 0, si uso uno ¿tengo la mitad de siclos?¿tendré que usar 50hz100 o 60hz120)? Que tenga que jugar con los siclos, ya que se alimenta con una parte del siclo, es otra cosa. (casi todos los aparatos que me han dejado o fabricado, los he quemado o roto (creo que por los retornos, chapuzas)
   Que si son polos enfrentados o no, no tengo ni idea, cada vez que hago pruebas, cambio los cables según de más o menos corriente, ya os digo, que no tengo ni idea de electricidad (para el chicharrero, soy un tenique o velillo = piedra o roca, tronco), no me planteo la polaridad de los-as bobinas y electroimanes.
   Por lo visto hay algunos que esto lo tienen como trabajo, (trabajo = dinero o contraprestación), “el jugar” la única contraprestación es el entretenimiento y “conocimiento”, así a los que lo tengan como trabajo, va siendo hora de que se pongan a trabajar y tengan una contraprestación razonable (unos cuantos millones como mínimo, no una miserable limosna) no ha esperar que otros le den soluciones (parecen políticos).  esto les dará una idea a los que nos gusta jugar con estos cachivaches.
It seems that we speak different languages.
-- I say who hyiq.org they give an alternative to the function of the machine, the operation has something to do with what I read on internet, the operation of fluorescent tubes, reactance function and primer, (!1 reactance works equal to 7?!). It is the alternative that has convinced me.
-- Power wave with video ixfes (cacharreo) it is clarified, is an pure sine wave, which produces the gadget (antique, started alternating current). If ac are two cables, when one cable is in 1 the other is 0, if I use one cable do I have half shekel will I have to use, 50hz-- 100 or 60hz--120? Have to play with the shekels, and if it feeds a part of a shekel, is another thing. (almost all devices that have left me or manufactured, I've burned or broken (I think, for the returns ac, bungling)
-- What if they are confronted the poles?, I have no idea, every time I tested, It change the cables, when of more or less electric, and I say, I have no idea of electricity (for chicharrero, I'm a Tenique or velillo = stone or rock),  coils and electromagnets I don't consider the polarity, to tested.
-- Apparently there are some that this will be it as work (work = money or consideration), "to play" the only consideration is the entertainment and "knowledge". To those who have it as work, it is time to be put to work and have a reasonable consideration (at least a few million, not  alms misera) must not expect to others, to give solutions (political speak).
This he will give them an idea to play with these gadgets. I hope, does not you does pictures or video lack
--- only resistive drive was patentable in the time of Clement Figuera, the rest could not be patented because it is free energy.

Well,

There is a thread showing a running generator with no back emf, surely based on the same principles as the Figuera patent with the rotary coil, patent #30376 ...

Cannot agree more with you on this one.. But unfortunately NO one here (afaik cmiiw) has ever replicated rotary coil in patent #30376, has anyone?

@Bajac

The Lorentz force should always be present but the electric field force can be considered negligible.

I know Lorentz force is always present but I doubt how strong its magnitude in generator whether conventional or Figuera's.
You may take a look at this video to see what I meant with Lorentz force (back torque) www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1PWnu01IQg
For example, in a generator, a conductor 10 m is moving through a B field 1 T with velocity 10 m/s --> V induced = B v l = 100 V
then we draw 10 A therefore the power out is 1000 W. Here comes Lorentz force directed by Lenz law trying to to stop the conductor. The current in conductor will experience a back torque, F = B I L = 1 x 10 x 10 = 100 N acting in velocity of 10 m/s, so P counter = F v = 100 x 10 = 1000 W, this is what we have to input, no excess energy.
IF the formula of Lorentz force on current-carrying conductor which is F = B I L is true for both conventional generator and Figuera's rotary coil, then there's no way we can reach overunity. Figuera's rotary coil generator will give an overunity only if F = B I L is not applicable to it. Regarding Hanon's concept that using two opposite poles will cancel the drag, I don't see it true, applying simple right-hand rule still result a drag.

It seems an interesting concept but I still do not understand completely. You can make a better argument if you provide all details how the signals are injected, what to expect in the induced coils, and why it is overunity. For example, the stepper motors use two signals shifted 90 degrees only. The signal you showed have an (absolute) time shifting of 180 degrees approx. Why do you think there will be a rotating resultant magnetic field? How will the resultant magnetic field produce overunity? Can you show a sketch with the sequence of operation expected for this device?

At this time, I can't give the explanation in detail since it's a half baked idea and yet unproven. Instead, I'm trying to give a simple principle behind that: to induce a voltage with flux cutting, something must rotate. If the thing which rotates is physical, it will suffer a back torque. But if the rotating one is only the field, it won't suffer any back torque (Hanon once posted about D. RAFAEL MARTINEZ GUTIERREZ's patent somewhere here which utilizes a rotating field principle) and we don't need any rotating part.
But apparently the back torque can be minimized even if we use rotating part like in syairchairun (see Hanon's link above), James W. German, Ecklin-Brown Generator, and of course in no-one-replicated Figuera's rotary coil. Thanks in advance.

Regards

According to the image attached in the previous post by the user Ignacio, there are three possible methods to excite the two series of electromagnets:

1- Using the conmutator described in the 1908 patent

2- Using a pure sine wave DC-AC inverter adding a diode (I suppose that the diode is used to eliminate the negative part of the signal)

3- Using a system of relays (that I can not understand as it is described in the image). I suppose that the output signal from the relay system is a pulsed signal.

Note: As I can guess from the image, the drawing of the circunference and the ondulated line inside ,which is the international symbol for AC current, seems not be used here with that significance, but just to represent a variable signal.

hanon: I've had a nagging doubt about the Figuera patent for a while now and it stems from a genuine misunderstanding I once had with an import export mess-up from Spain.
I mean that words have different meanings in different cultures.
Is it possible that Figuera was referring to the fact that he could get AC from DC very
simply using his method?
At that time most generating plants would be on DC, and it would cost a fortune to
convert to AC.
Figuera's device as an industrial grade DC to AC converter would have been worth millions anyway.
Could you re-examine the patent from that point of view?