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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2370339 times)

marathonman

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AS does this one.

marathonman

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just a little reminder of what is happening in the Figuera device.
i can not stress enough that people should click the link from the above post to see the true relationship between the Primary Electromagnets and the actions and reasons for the very strong E Field.

Doug1

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Oh hell did you mean to say B field because I smell curry burning.

marathonman

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No i didn't, all i smell is beans and tortillas from my neighbors house the curry must be from your neighbor. ha ha ha

Doug1

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 Do you have any problems with this explanation of back emf?http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/sc545_notes04/back_emf.html

 How much would expect to lose if you used an ac source signal to run a generator at rated frequencies of 50 to 60 hrtz with the above in mind? Take into account nothing will be rotating like a motor only the magnetic field is moving. How much extra power is used to kill and flip the polarity of the field being used for induction when every flip of polarity takes the full amount of power for every flip?

marathonman

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Doug; I have one question ? who is talking about AC?
the Figuera device is DC plain and simple. i don't need convincing.

what gives ????
and yes it would take substantial power to flip every time, can i calculate that.... no.
even with pure iron it would be impractical.

PS. good link

Doug1

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No one yet ,but it always comes back at intervals of time and it is due up to resurface where connecting to a mains supply some how has some relevance to not connecting to a mains supply in order to produce your own supply separate from said mains supply.
  Yea when you put it that way it makes ya scratch your head and say wtf.

marathonman

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As you have already commented that all Generators are all DC excited, and has any one ever wonder why.??? aparently not.
I think because most people are so conditioned to the BS of the wheel work of the last 100 years and present day establishment they can't see out side the box or fathom the implications and advantages of DC excitation in Coils.

the same thing with part G. almost no one on this forum can fathom the idea of magnetic resistance and the extreme advantages of using such technics compared to using heat death power wasting resistors. nor the fact that the core of part G stores magnetic energies in the process.

the Universe we so live in is a PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE and will be here Billions of years after we are long gone. so it is up to us to figure out how to tap into this machine and live our lives according to the Laws of nature and the Universe not by the Bureaucratic BS so imposed on us at the present time by our nations  leaders.

may God  have mercy on their twisted, corrupt soles.

darediamond

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OMG all 10 were bad, i'm very sorry Clif but i couldn't help from laughing. i received my 14 IXGK400N30A3 from Mouser and all of them were good.
although solid iron will go higher than that frequency, i think i'll stick with 60 for now just to see how things work out. another fact is that if you run it at a higher frequency part G core has to be able to handle it also.

and by the way if you build part G and do a shotty job it will spark like mad but a certain person i know used a grinding tool just for that purpose and said it couldn't be any more perfect. and also stated that if the brushes are very good quality their is surprisingly very little wear.
I see the broken record is back.

You need to connect in Parallel HV AC Capacitors to the Primary coil leads to absorb spark PERMANENTLY on the carbon brushes and or in the Transistors provided you wish to use that to switch "Part G".

You do not have to use expensive Oil Filled High Voltage AC Capacitors like mine which I bough on Aliexpress.com

You can use CBB CAPACITORS rated at 400v 3.5uf . All you need do is to connect them in series to match the 10 fold
Voltage coming as BACK emf from the Primaries to the Carbon Brush.

What  I mean is if u supply 200v to your primaries, at low frequency and depending on how well your primaries is made to be a Capacitor, you will at least get 2000v as back emf. So you will need 5 or 6 CBB Caps rated at 400vac to do the Job of Spark absorption.

It is easier to absorb Spark in Mechanical Switch or oscillator than Solid State Switch like MOSFET etc because..

darediamond

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Clemente Figuera was more of a genius then i first realized. very few people used a magnetic field to limit or rather in Figuera's case vary the currant on a continuous basis with part G. Nicola Tesla was one of them also.

that is why i posted a pic of a bar being pulled out of a coil because that is what is happening in Figuera's part G. using a magnetic field to vary the currant between set N and set S.
this can be verified by EVERYONE in this forum at home.
as part G rotates it becomes the controller for the entire device using a magnetic opposing field and reluctance in part G to very the currant that is in constant rotating motion.
all currant is available to the primaries because everyone knows currant runs from negative to positive so that leaves part G to vary the currant. as the currant travels through the winding it causes a magnetic fields that resists the flow of currant, so more winding less currant less windings more currant.
also as the declining electromagnets are shoved out of the secondary the energy is stored in part G in the form of a magnetic field being replentished every half turn or every declining phase of the electromagnets.

so that tells me that part G is not only more valuable them meets the eye, it CAN NOT be replaced with IC's.

well at least on the low side anyways.

this is a lost art that most do not know about and probably can't find in any junk books of today.

"RELUCTANCE" RESISTANCE TO CURRANT FLOW ! "MAGNETICALLY"

I made mention of IC in conjunction with Inverter which convert DC to produce AC which is readily being oscillated by the IC on the board of the inverter.

Part G stores to Back EMF to keep the Primaries from "freezing'' so as not to stop the needed non-zero frequency in variance.

That variance in frequency is ready available in Pure Sine Wave Inverter generated AC.

And when that is employed No back emf is generated, no freezing, NO NEED of Part G.

However, I am strictly open to options on how to arrive at using low current to drive the Primaries at 60hz or 3600RPM. Maybe that is what the Part G is correctly doing.

You know what is needed to be achieved is  a  SELF POWERED DEVICE  THAT USES  ONE TO PRODUCE AT LEAST 1000. And that is possible because the Secondary is always absorbing free electricity from the Air as it is being switched by the Primaries.

But how can you achieve self-powering state without using high voltage via either inverter?

Remember, that with an Inverter, you can:

1. Supply 12vdc and get 12000ac

2. Separately increase or decrease frequency

3. Separately increase voltage without increasing frequency.

4. Switch at low voltage and get high voltage high frequency

The primaries of Figuera device are connected in parallel to make them work in unison at the same time as the current is being oscillated in them from left to rigth , rigth to left viva. And this same task is readily present in Alternate Current which Inverter do generate.
 When we are talking about self powered, that rules out Government supplied electric source as the kick-statting power source in any ou device. So the need for independent power source wjich is made with IC, Mosfet, Ttansistor, Diodes, Transformer, Resistor etc.

I am planning to lower my input current at high voltage (1500ac) to say 70mah using high frequency and thus abolish battery totally in my own version of Figuera device. Super Capacitors Connected in series will be the Power Source of the inverter. Also once low input wattage get achieved, then low high frequency homemade inverter will further be employed.

To me  I think using AC is the best. All is needed is proper winding of the primaries which will enable them to act as Capacitors at high Voltage.

marathonman

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Well Doug you were right, it sure didn't take long for AC to pop up.

Are you kidding, comparing DC being varied to AC is like night and day and you have to be blind not to see the difference.

and for everyone's information the Figuera device does NOT collect BEMF. "WHY" because the currant is constantly supplied to the Primaries just varied in intensity so NO BEMF EVER occurs. what does occur is the declining Primary electromagnet is shoved out of the Secondary and feeds part G.
IF BEMF ever occurs in the Primaries it means that the currant was not maintained in a proper manor so outlined by Figuera and all induction will be lost. AC will kill the induction from the primaries because of the fact that it takes to long for the domains to flip. if constant pressure is not maintained between the Primaries induction WILL BE LOST.

so go ahead with you AC contraption, i would love for you to spend lots of money on it. in the long run all i will say is "i told ya so"
the Patent it's self and all posted research information points to DC but do as you must.

hanon

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    • https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/
IMHO Figuera device nullifies the Faraday Law because one side of the coil (from one side to the point of collision of magnetic lines of the two repelling fields) the magnetic field is increasing (dB/dt >0) while in the other side of the coil the field is decreasing in the same amount (dB/dt<0). Therefore the total effect due to the Faraday Law is cancelled out.  Faraday Law is the one with a minus sign    emf = - N • A • dB/dt   , but in this device the minus sign (flux linking induction) is cancelled out totally or partially.  Induction is just done by flux cutting which is represented by the Lorentz equation   emf = B • v • Length  , and this equation do not have a minus sign. For me  both equations are different: Faraday Law is based on the Maxwell equations, while the motional emf equation is based on the Lorentz force, which is not part of the Maxwell equations as far as I have read.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/elevol.html#c3

Doug1

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I think your interpretation of what you read is wrong. If it feels like it was written a little odd it's because of a  failure in the writing to lock down the frame of reference of the observation with clarity. Anyone could speak for hours about two train engines locked together facing each other traveling down a train track with out any distinction between engines. Chances are the interpretations will more often be wrong then write. Add in the track is a circle and in an attempt to find clarity time is introduced. More isnt always good unless you want to cover it from every frame in order to prevent more confusion.Less might be in order.
  Marathonman
  I thought you had a better grasp on the principals of the mag amp the dc from ac patent and a complete understanding of the variac and how it works. Specialization is a sociopolitical tool of controlling the general population. To a hammer everything is a nail. The hammer thinks it has it going on and can do anything just by hitting what ever it is. If this was a room full of medical doctors the scripts would be knee high wall to wall and when that fails start chopping out organs and flesh. If the patent says the output is running the load and suppressing the input and in a typical rotational type using the output through a regulator and supplying itself in well known ways. Whats the best approach to consider?

marathonman

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Who the hell EVER said i had a "COMPLETE" understanding, it sure wasn't me. as for the mag amp's i have many cores i have been tinkering with and am almost their with the Tesla patent. as for the Figuera part G i am still struggling with the self running part, as if you don't already know that . more then likely it's through the Core of part G. that is the last of the puzzle as far as i am concerned.

"Specialization is a sociopolitical tool of controlling the general population." WTF is this shit.

Erfinder: you are not telling me anything i don't already know. Yeh sure anyone can blast an F-in coil up with any kind of signal and get some kind of output but i guarantee you will not get as much as the proper timing for the Figuera device. the link i posted from Hanon shows the Primaries at work over the secondaries. this is exactly what is going on in the Figuera device and you sure are not going to get that precision with YAH HOO timing.
Good luck buddy.
 i will believe it when i see it.

marathonman

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I to think your opinion is worth Squat but in the long run YOU have yours and I have mine. Ranswami will be glad to help you.
end of conversation as i have better things to do like build the real part G.


Good day sir.